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Moviefan-2

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(W)e bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
For the record, the only source I ever agreed to is the live NASA chart that we used for the bet.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/




"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

0.43ºC correct.
:Eek:

It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be a lying fool.
 

Frankfooter

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:biggrin1:
Yes, the NASA chart got updated and the figures changed after we made and agreed to the bet.
Too bad for you loser, it could have gone either way, or they could have not changed those historical years at all.
But had you been smart enough to read the FAQ that I keep posting, you would have understood the risk.
As it was, the change went my way, not that I needed it, with the bet being beaten by a whopping 0.04ºC.

Don't you remember, you first tried to change the bet 0.03ºC, to 0.86ºC, based on the 1995 update? I didn't even need that change since the temp beat the bet by 0.04ºC, that's why you kept changing cheats to try to find a way to cheat the bet enough to claim you didn't lose. That's why you're now on this really weird claim that the 1995-2015 bet needs to be adjusted to 2014's numbers, its still 'retroactively changing the numbers' as you like to say. Just another weasel cheat from the sore loser.

You are such a sore loser.

This is the bet you lost.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.
And this is the part of that same page where you got the above two charts that you are working so hard to avoid.



As you noted:

NASA reported:
- 2015 anomaly: 0.87ºC
You lost the bet.
 

Moviefan-2

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(W)e bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
Yes, the NASA chart got updated and the figures changed after we made and agreed to the bet.....
For the record, the only source I ever agreed to is the live NASA chart that we used for the bet.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/




"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

0.43ºC correct.
:Eek:

It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be a lying fool.
 

Moviefan-2

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It was a year-over-year increase of 0.15ºC of the 2014 anomaly from the time of the bet.
NASA said:
Globally-averaged temperatures in 2015 shattered the previous mark set in 2014 by 0.23 degrees Fahrenheit (0.13 Celsius).

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/...d-shattering-global-warm-temperatures-in-2015
As it was, the change went my way, not that I needed it, with the bet being beaten by a whopping 0.04ºC.
???? :Eek:

No math is needed, you can keep your broken abacus out of this.
:biggrin1:

(We all know this one's going to be added to the next edition of Frankfooter's greatest hits.)
 

Frankfooter

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"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

:Eek:
Only weasels try to change bets after they've agreed to them.
Only weasels promise to hold to the original terms of a bet, then break their word and keep trying to change the bet.
Only weasels refuse to honour their own words.

In any event, it's settled. The bet that you and I made on May 10, 2015, stands.
Are you a weasel or a man?
Is your word worthless or will you keep it?
 

Frankfooter

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???? :Eek:
The fact that it was a year-over-year increase of 0.15ºC of the 2014 anomaly from the time of the bet had nothing to do with the bet. The terms of the bet were clear, they were based on the global anomaly hitting 0.83ºC, not 0.83ºC + 'whatever it takes to make moviefan win'.

You agreed to continue the bet on its original terms, not to change the terms to your 'adjusted' numbers.

http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.


Why won't you keep your word?
 

Moviefan-2

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Yes, the NASA chart got updated and the figures changed after we made and agreed to the bet....

And this is the part of that same page where you got the above two charts that you are working so hard to avoid.
"Two charts"?

---

May 11, 2015:

We might get a bet, once you agree to use one chart for recording the results.
Ok bets on.
:Eek:

Only weasels try to change bets after they've agreed to them.
Only weasels promise to hold to the original terms of a bet, then break their word and keep trying to change the bet.
Only weasels refuse to honour their own words.
:biggrin1:
 

Frankfooter

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"Two charts"?
Yes, have you been at the solvents again? Your short term memory is shot.
Post #303 you used two copies of a chart from the NASA page, or two charts.

Both are screenshots from the NASA site we made the bet on, as is the chart below.
The one below shows the full page, which shows both that you lost the bet and that your claim about a 'pause' or 'hiatus' is also false.
The link to the actual, live chart we bet on is included in the quote of the bet you lost.

In May, 2014, we bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
We bet whether 2015 would hit 0.83ºC.
2015's global temperature anomaly came out as 0.87ºC.
You lost.



http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.

You lost.
 

Moviefan-2

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(W)e bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
For the record, the only source I ever agreed to is the live NASA chart that we used for the bet.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/




"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

0.43ºC correct.
:Eek:

It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be a lying fool.
 

Frankfooter

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http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

:Eek:
As you quoted:
It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be lying.
You are lying by insinuating there is any question about what we agreed to on the bet.

In May, 2014, we bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
We bet whether 2015 would hit 0.83ºC.
2015's global temperature anomaly came out as 0.87ºC.
You lost.

You posted a graph that showed a 0.43ºC anomaly for 1995 and we agreed to bet on whether there would be a minimum increase of 0.4ºC over 20 years.

So we bet on the remaining distance from the original 1995 anomaly of 0.43ºC.

http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.

NASA reported:
- 2015 anomaly: 0.87ºC
You lost the bet.
 

Moviefan-2

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(W)e bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
Yes, the NASA chart got updated and the figures changed after we made and agreed to the bet.
For the record, the only source I ever agreed to is the live NASA chart that we used for the bet.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/




"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

0.43ºC correct.
:Eek:

It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be a lying fool.
 

Frankfooter

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For the record, the only source I ever agreed to is the live NASA chart that we used for the bet.
Just as we used that live chart for the calculation of our fixed bet, 0.43ºC + (0.2ºC x 2) = our bet of 0.83ºC.
The NASA link we used for the result is still live and at the same location.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

"...the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC"?

:Eek:
In May, 2014, we bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
We bet whether 2015 would hit 0.83ºC.
2015's global temperature anomaly came out as 0.87ºC.
You lost.

You posted a graph that showed a 0.43ºC anomaly for 1995 and we agreed to bet on whether there would be a minimum increase of 0.4ºC over 20 years.

So we bet on the remaining distance from the original 1995 anomaly of 0.43ºC.
So in order to win the bet, all the temperature has to do is hit 0.83ºC anomaly for the year of 2015, correct?
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.

NASA reported:
- 2015 anomaly: 0.87ºC


You lost the bet.
 

Moviefan-2

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So we bet on the remaining distance from the original 1995 anomaly of 0.43ºC.

Using your 1995 anomaly as the starting point and the bet of a 0.40ºC increase, tell us what number you get when you subtract 0.25 from 0.40.
It was a year-over-year increase of 0.15ºC of the 2014 anomaly from the time of the bet.
NASA said:
Globally-averaged temperatures in 2015 shattered the previous mark set in 2014 by 0.23 degrees Fahrenheit (0.13 Celsius).

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/...d-shattering-global-warm-temperatures-in-2015
:thumb:

No math is needed, you can keep your broken abacus out of this.
 

Frankfooter

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:thumb:

The fact that it was a year-over-year increase of 0.15ºC of the 2014 anomaly from the time of the bet had nothing to do with the bet. The terms of the bet were clear, they were based on the global anomaly hitting 0.83ºC, not 0.83ºC + 'whatever it takes to make moviefan win'.

You agreed to continue the bet on its original terms, not to change the terms to your 'adjusted' numbers.
In May, 2014, we bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
We bet whether 2015 would hit 0.83ºC.
2015's global temperature anomaly came out as 0.87ºC.
You lost.

Therefore, the bet is from 1995 to 2015 -- you won't have to wait, as we'll know the winner by early 2016.

Do we have a bet?
So in order to win the bet, all the temperature has to do is hit 0.83ºC anomaly for the year of 2015, correct?
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.

NASA reported:
- 2015 anomaly: 0.87ºC


You lost the bet.
 

Moviefan-2

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You agreed to continue the bet on its original terms....
It was a year-over-year increase of 0.15ºC of the 2014 anomaly from the time of the bet.
NASA said:
Globally-averaged temperatures in 2015 shattered the previous mark set in 2014 by 0.23 degrees Fahrenheit (0.13 Celsius).

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/...-shattering-global-warm-temperatures-in-2015/


http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

The Six attempts at 'Moving the Goal Posts'

That's not NASA.
...now you're faking charts.
Yet another lie from you, claiming that's chart we bet on.
Are you expecting me to try to figure out your faulty weasel math?
Screw you, I'm not going down that rabbit hole.
Only weasels try to change a bet after they've agreed to it.
Now you're down to copying and pasting random ... quotes as if they had some kind of point to them.


:thumb:

It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be a lying fool.
 

Frankfooter

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Lets look at those three sentences:
We might get a bet, once you agree to use one chart for recording the results.
We both agreed to use this chart:
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
....
You agreed to continue the bet on its original terms, not to change the terms to your 'adjusted' numbers.
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

:thumb:
Quoting from posts that pointed out where you lied and didn't hold your word doesn't really make a case, loser.
Using partial quotes arranged together as if the all meant something else is also dishonest, and the type of argument a 4 year old would make.

For instance, the post above has all the integrity of the sum of all the quotes below:
How to use partial quotes strung together as if they meant something else, or the Moviefan quoting game:

I'll repeat my post again.
the fact remains that
I do agree with Frankfooter
have been so consistently and spectacularly wrong.
I will stand by my conclusion that
the bet confirms
consistently and spectacularly wrong.
I believe that's what used to be known as
I'm "lying,"
 

Frankfooter

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If you want to refer to the bet, use the actual bet.
Not quotes taken out of context from posts calling you out for cheating.

In May, 2014, we bet whether or not the IPCC projection of 0.2ºC was accurate, from 1995-2015, based on the reported 1995 global temperature anomaly of 0.43ºC.
We bet whether 2015 would hit 0.83ºC.
2015's global temperature anomaly came out as 0.87ºC.
You lost.

Therefore, the bet is from 1995 to 2015 -- you won't have to wait, as we'll know the winner by early 2016.

Do we have a bet?
So in order to win the bet, all the temperature has to do is hit 0.83ºC anomaly for the year of 2015, correct?
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

If that's the chart you're saying will hit 0.83 at the end of 2015, we definitely have a bet.

NASA reported:
- 2015 anomaly: 0.87ºC


You lost the bet.
 

Moviefan-2

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If you want to refer to the bet, use the actual bet.
:thumb:

Using your 1995 anomaly as the starting point and the bet of a 0.40ºC increase, tell us what number you get when you subtract 0.25 from 0.40. :thumb:
It was a year-over-year increase of 0.15ºC of the 2014 anomaly from the time of the bet.
For the record, the only source I ever agreed to is the live NASA chart that we used for the bet.


http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

The Six attempts at 'Moving the Goal Posts'

That's not NASA.
...now you're faking charts.
Yet another lie from you, claiming that's chart we bet on.
Are you expecting me to try to figure out your faulty weasel math?
Screw you, I'm not going down that rabbit hole.
Only weasels try to change a bet after they've agreed to it.
Now you're down to copying and pasting random ... quotes as if they had some kind of point to them.


:thumb:

It takes a certain kind of person to post something that shows himself to be a lying fool.
 
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