Turkey downs Russian plane over Syria

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I have disproved such sources: RT is an agency of the Russian government. Not figuratively. Literally. They are wholly owned and controlled by the Russian state.
[h=1]Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty[/h] RFE/RL is a 501(c)(3) corporation that receives U.S. government funding and is supervised by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, an agency overseeing all U.S. federal government international broadcasting services

Budget

$92,100,000 (FY 13)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty

State funded media eh?
 

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If you don't agree with the sources of information upon which people make their case, then it is up to you to disprove such sources with your own facts, and not use conjecture (pulling stuff out of your ass).

The facts are here for all to see: that your memory is extremely selective. You can't stand a difference of opinion and you resort to invectiveness and childish name calling as a result (see above).
Fugi never will, he's just to brainwashed or should I say main streamed to even consider something as hideous as this . He just blabbers away in his narrow minded thoughts. Which is no surprise to me.
Nice work wilbur.
 

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"Truthdig"

Nice try.
If it doesn't have Fuji's Imprimatur, then it can't be true then!

For everybody else, read it. It's worth it. Issues are never so simple as black and white; there are always two versions; exploring those versions is called acquiring perspective. When only one version counts, you become the brainwashed.
 

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If it doesn't have Fuji's Imprimatur, then it can't be true then!

For everybody else, read it. It's worth it. Issues are never so simple as black and white; there are always two versions; exploring those versions is called acquiring perspective. When only one version counts, you become the brainwashed.
Meanwhile your Russian state propaganda ministry is destroyed by facts: first it is the Russian state which by itself is proof enough, second TWO reporters quit saying they couldn't in good conscience continue lying.

But go ahead tell us that it is really ok to listen to Russian state propaganda because some random blog said so!

Let me know when you have something to contribute to this discussion that has any legitimacy.
 

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Israel has targeted the BBC and Amnesty International? Not heard about that one yet.
Considering the ONLY source for casualties in Gaza is the Hamas Ministry of Information... BBC and Amnesty simply took Hamas numbers at face value.

Meanwhile you refuse to accept civilian casualty numbers from Syria.
 

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LOL Turkey is a joke, they are part of the problem. and A NATO alie no less. What a crock of shit !!!!
 

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Meanwhile your Russian state propaganda ministry is destroyed by facts: first it is the Russian state which by itself is proof enough, second TWO reporters quit saying they couldn't in good conscience continue lying.

But go ahead tell us that it is really ok to listen to Russian state propaganda because some random blog said so!

Let me know when you have something to contribute to this discussion that has any legitimacy.
Hating Russians so much that the blinders come on.

After 9/11, most of society had the blinders on as well, brainwashed by MSM. And a fine mess Iraq turned out to be.
 

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Hating Russians so much that the blinders come on.

After 9/11, most of society had the blinders on as well, brainwashed by MSM. And a fine mess Iraq turned out to be.
I don't hate Russia but you would have to be a total fool to cite the state propaganda agency of an autocracy as "alternative news".

It is an alternative to the truth.
 

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Considering the ONLY source for casualties in Gaza is the Hamas Ministry of Information... BBC and Amnesty simply took Hamas numbers at face value.

Meanwhile you refuse to accept civilian casualty numbers from Syria.
They send people on site all the time and use a lot of other data sources because they know the Palis will not behead a BBC journalist. They also have UN people on the ground, also pretty confident the Palis will not kill or behead them.
 

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I don't hate Russia but you would have to be a total fool to cite the state propaganda agency of an autocracy as "alternative news".

It is an alternative to the truth.
As opposed to Western private free EMBEDDED media hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah
 

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It's impossible to win an argument with Fuji because he simply comes here just to argue. I have never seen him write a review on a lady but he has 63000 plus threads. Doesn't matter what you say because he will say the opposite just to keep an argument going. Save your time ☺
 

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It's impossible to win an argument with Fuji because he simply comes here just to argue. I have never seen him write a review on a lady but he has 63000 plus threads. Doesn't matter what you say because he will say the opposite just to keep an argument going. Save your time ☺
Oh he loses all the time, only him and that Chinese girl in his avatar don't know it.
 

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It's impossible to win an argument with Fuji because he simply comes here just to argue. I have never seen him write a review on a lady but he has 63000 plus threads. Doesn't matter what you say because he will say the opposite just to keep an argument going. Save your time ☺
So true!! The master of deception. Sitting in his parents basement.
 

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They send people on site all the time and use a lot of other data sources because they know the Palis will not behead a BBC journalist. They also have UN people on the ground, also pretty confident the Palis will not kill or behead them.
A few years ago, a Canadian journalist in Gaza was suspected of being an agent for a foreign power (don't remember who). So Hamas security detained him for questioning. They asked him where he lived, and asked him to describe his neighborhood. Somebody in the next room kept shouting around the corner to his interrogators specific questions to ask him, getting more and more detailed as the journalist responded. They let him go with an apology. The guy next door was using Google Maps to verify his story.

Compare that to what Mohamed Fahmi endured in Egypt, supposedly Canada's ally.
 

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As opposed to Western private free EMBEDDED media hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah
So your idea of credible sources so far:

1. The state owned mouthpiece of the Russian government

2. A holocaust denier website that runs articles claiming the holocaust was "a Jew on Jew false flag operation"

You are ludicrous.
 

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A few years ago, a Canadian journalist in Gaza was suspected of being an agent for a foreign power (don't remember who). So Hamas security detained him for questioning. They asked him where he lived, and asked him to describe his neighborhood. Somebody in the next room kept shouting around the corner to his interrogators specific questions to ask him, getting more and more detailed as the journalist responded. They let him go with an apology. The guy next door was using Google Maps to verify his story.

Compare that to what Mohamed Fahmi endured in Egypt, supposedly Canada's ally.
Now you are defending Hamas??? Holy fuck.
 

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Now you are defending Hamas??? Holy fuck.
Tell me how a factual story is defending Hamas?

These are facts. Of course, you don't know the difference between facts and passing judgement. You pass judgement all the time without resorting to facts (unless 'just because Fuji said so' is a fact).

Here is another fact, in the form of a definition:

Delusion: "an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder."

PS: What happened to the Asian girl?
 
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