9/11 Fourteen Years Later
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Saw 9 minutes. Very interesting. I didn't know that there was a central core. Even though it was not pure concrete, it was heavy reinforced steel. Will have to see it later.
Until you get the Structural Engineer who designed the WTC saying that the buildings were brought down by a controlled demolition, I'm not going to believe any conspiracy theory, least of which are a few videos posted on youtube by people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about (like post 203 above, which I could only bare to watch for about a minute)
As to the assassination of JFK, to me, it's about who shot JFK, not some magic bullet theory. My personal belief is a mob hit. Simple as that.
As to the assassination of JFK, to me, it's about who shot JFK, not some magic bullet theory. My personal belief is a mob hit. Simple as that.
A structural engineer can tell you what would happen if the core was breached, but he won't be able to confirm whether the core was rigged withe explosive charges.
Let's open our minds and watch more than just a minute. I saw 9 minutes and it was gaining momentum, but I can't say I'm conceding the possibility until later, IF I agree.
James, yes, the forest is more important than the trees (motive, means, and opportunity are important), but the Single Bullet Theory is the keystone of the Warren Commission, and if it doesn't make sense, then the whole house of cards falls, meaning there must've been a conspiracy. The problem is that the government and MSM haven't gotten beyond the lone assassin scenario, let alone worrying about 'who'.
Without writing a book here, the JFK assassination was not just a mob hit. The mob silenced the patsy Oswald to prevent a trial using Jack Ruby (unlike the Warren Commission, the House Select Committee on Assassinations found that Jack Ruby had significant underworld connections). But they alone could not shoot the President and set up a fall guy and cover it up. Oswald had fingerprints of intelligence (per Senator Schweiker, who saw classified files), and the mob did collaborate with the CIA in certain black ops (i.e., attempts to get rid of Castro). The Mexico incident involving an Oswald imposter is perhaps one of the most important clues ever.
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while I think there are legitimate questions about what happened I agree with the above. the truth is life is messy and there are always things that seem out of the ordinary to those of us who don't have enough knowledge to really understand what's happening. this was a traumatic event for many and its seems too surreal to have happened- so we naturally grasp at different explanations. though we shouldn't demean those who are questioning, even if they are wrong, they are dealing with their grief in their own way.
I don't think it's about dealing with grief, although that could be the case for those more closely associated with that tragic event.
The internet and entertaining videos can cause people to question things, which is not a bad thing. You just need specialists to vet or debunk such videos, if common sense isn't enough.
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The structural engineers who designed the buildings are not demolition experts. Lets see what Controlled Demolition Technician has to say.
I still don't know. Didn't he say that you must weaken the building before you rig the explosives? Does that also apply to a steel frame building? How would they have weakened the WTC without detection? The WTC had a unique steel frame structure, not the usual framed buildings that this gent would be experienced with.
P.S. I have yet to finish watching the previous video.
Wrong. Once the weight of the building was falling the central core collapsed. You are talking put nonsense without any connection to reality. The building was not on a compression design as you imagine. It just wasn'tThe central core was an integral part of those buildings and would have had to have been compromised, through explosive devises. Which would have had to have been planted at certain levels of the core as well as the substructure.
Exactly.
What we have in these YouTube videos are clueless idiots who have no idea how the building was actually built. The engineers who actually do know signed off on the official report.
Versus garbage in YouTube.
This thread is an IQ test....
You can see from any YouTube video that this "YouTube expert" is flat out wrong. You can literally see the building pancakes. It does not fall into its foundation. The building above the impact falls down into and crushes the building by below, with the lower part remaining motionless until it is destroyed by the falling part.
Anyone can see that in any of the videos so stop posting this idiotic and easily refuted garbage.
lol bet you keep a notepad on your computer and keep track, in your imaginary world, sure.
But until you can give some logical explanation to WTC 7's collapse besides the bullshit NIST (government) theory, the firefighters and other EXPERTS (not youtube celebs) that saw molten metal "flowing like lava" at ground zero.
Unless you can in some very reasonable manner other than the bullshit story of NIST who said a fire caused the collapse because of ONE COLUMN being compromised (LOL btw) and caused it to fall PERFECTLY straight down on its own footprint, I'll take 20 points away from you for believing such idiocy.
Larry Silverstein said to "pull IT" (he said he was referring to the firemen Lol.... why not "them", anyways) so the fire department tell him they can't save it.
So they "pull IT" (referring to people, not the building
) and then the fire spreads and causes a PERFECT collapse?Fuck it, 40 points taken away from Fuji.....and the pencil, no more games for you. Go to your roo, err basement.
Again you are proving who you truly are !! With the consistent Name calling. It is impossible for you to have a civil conversation. Which makes me wonder how old you truly are.
You've done that none stop in most of the threads with any and everyone thats disagreed with you.
People who build conventional highrises supported by internal pillars HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE how a building suspended from an exoskeleton is supposed to collapse.
How many buildings worldwide were built on the WTC design? Five?
He's not a youtube expert he's an explosives tech who was recorded and the video was subsequently put online. Saying "youtube expert" is a red herring, YouTube is a medium, a platform, it's really that simple.
No different than Fox News or Faux as some call it, no different than CNN, CBS, ABC, 123, RT, AL-JAZEERA, etc.
Go ahead and refute his points, would love to see you try.
