9/11 Fourteen Years Later

[Titalian]

I agree wholeheartedly.

However, is it possible, that since the basement was so deep, that they just needed to detonate the lowest floor or floors, the explosions for which were not discernible on video?

As you said, I don't see the bottom floors collapsing in tandem with the top floors like you see in controlled-demolition videos.

I just see top few floors crashing down on all the rest.

This might help answer your question GB. Watch the 2 short videos first and you will distinctly hear the blasts as the building is coming down. Just as these fire fighters saw, heard and explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iya_s7J7K6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiIT4HInWjY

The audio evidence clearly and distinctly denotes 23 "BOOMS" and NOT 80-100-some punch-press "KLANGS" which would be what a "pancake collapse" would sound like.

The twin towers were brought down by a self-righting helical-cut 5 storey wedge-frame internal steel frame "corkscrew" wedge demolition plan.

1st: Bedrock supported core columns above the basements (below the lobbies) are cut and explosively have wedge cut sections blown out of them in the parking and mechanical levels (3-4 stories up). These preperatory support-removing early morning blasts timed to go off as the planes hit, pre-load the entire vertical structural weight of the core columns and inside floors against the concrete core instead dropping the lobby cores and pulling in the weight of the inner structure against the outer "steel core can" of the building, guaranteeing a concentric "footprint" demolition implosion.

3 story high bedrock base-core beam 3 feet X 5 feet solid steel (top not photographable nor viewable)

The towers were three 32 floor buildings with separate fire-sealed containment so no jet fuel could "leak" from the 80th floor to any point below the 68th floor (2nd Sky Lobby) under any circumstance.

2nd: Diagonal wedge-cut 5 story high core frame sections were thermate®-heat trimmed into sequential North-West-South-East "wedges". This guarantees they will remain righted on top each other as they slide over into themselves, battering each other from above while "coring" the concrete core-can and inside steel and concrete floors as cutter-edge-expanded floor and cross-brace battering rams.

remaining inner section of a corkscrewed core frame wedge

3rd: 23 massive RDX or HTC bombings are necessary while the pre-cut cut steel is still white hot in sequential
Top-down North-East-South-West concrete sides of the inner core to outer floor connections to allow the 5 story battering rams to pull in
the upper floors connected to each at the top while wedging through the floors below as a giant core corkscrew demolishing the internals while still held upright by the outer core frames as they drive down.

Note the extensive internal cross bracing of core steel frames before floors are attached and concrete core walls are poured

THIS IS WHY YOU HEAR 23 BOOMS

If there was a "pancake collapse" of just the floors you'd have ended up with 68 floors of steel core still standing and at least 80-100 KLANGS.

 

[basketcase]

Ah, the no plane claims that are so ridiculous that even most conspiracy theorists run away.

 

[basketcase]

You do realize, there are demolition experts in the military.

And does the military have magic explosives that would allow them to destroy every structural member in the twin towers starting at where the planes (didn't :crazy hit without anyone noticing the masses of wires and charges and magical invisible charges that were placed on the structural elements of the exterior structure?

 

[Titalian]

And does the military have magic explosives that would allow them to destroy every structural member in the twin towers starting at where the planes (didn't :crazy hit without anyone noticing the masses of wires and charges and magical invisible charges that were placed on the structural elements of the exterior structure?

The explosives are detonated by remote control. Why don't you read up on it before answering. And who will notice the charges they were placed inside the elevator shafts.

 

[basketcase]

The explosives are detonated by remote control. Why don't you read up on it before answering. And who will notice the charges they were placed inside the elevator shafts.

And are they invisible too?

And no, an implosion may use remote control to trigger the implosion but because of the massive numbers of explosive charges, they need to be wired, even in a building that is way smaller than the towers.

And in an implosion, EVERY significant structural member needs to be destroyed. In the towers that also means the exterior of the building where the charges would have to be invisible to not be seen.

 

[Titalian]

And are they invisible too?

And no, an implosion may use remote control to trigger the implosion but because of the massive numbers of explosive charges, they need to be wired, even in a building that is way smaller than the towers.

And in an implosion, EVERY significant structural member needs to be destroyed. In the towers that also means the exterior of the building where the charges would have to be invisible to not be seen.

Not true read what I posted on top there were in total 23 explosions in the inner core.

 

[Titalian]

This is one you have to watch if you dare.

 

[Titalian]

 

[TESLAMotors]

lol you just can't make this stuff up. Bush does it for you.

 

[TESLAMotors]

 

[TESLAMotors]

7:48 is one that really make you shake your head and wonder "WTF?"

 

[TESLAMotors]

New documentary on the whole thing, just came across this.

Some of the comments below the video.

If you don't know that Zionist Jews did 911, watch this and you will KNOW with 100% certainty that they absolutely did!!!

jean-michel HERBERT 3 months ago
The nose cone of an airliner is not made of aluminium but either carbon fiber or more likely fiber glass,because of the radar that is held behind it,they even have a new type of'plastic'now,so for sure it won't puncture threw nothing,not even a small size bird.I wonder who's the moron that said,a plane went threw numbers of concrete walls at the Pentagon.

Timothy E Hook 4 months ago
oh, by the way, I've been a structural engineer for the last 22 years...ive even bothered to do the little bit of simple physics (conservation of momentum folks) that proves the gov't's explaination of what happened to those buildings on 9/11/01 is a bunch of bullshit that could Never physically happen on this planet....so I tend to hold a grudge against any and all of those bastards who murdered those people and blamed it on someone else.
Peace, truth, justice, freedom, health and prosperity for ALL...in-spite of those who are controlling the US govt.

Will Hart 4 months ago
Inside Job...NEOCONS...Military standown...demolition teams...remove the materials from the crime scene ASAP before forensic investigators get a chance to analyze and find the thermite...pretext for invading the Middle East...and locking down America, militarized police, Patriot Act...simple really...connect the dots.

ShortGiant 3 months ago (edited)
Mr. Christopher Bollyn has been researching 9/11 from the very beginning. His research, analysis and journalistic work is accurate. 9/11 was indeed an Israeli Mossad operation.

Don't be distracted by red herrings from controlled opposition people who either work for the Israelis or are being paid to cover up, lie, manipulate, fear monger, say half truths or have an agenda such as...
Alex Jones and Infowars, Luke Rudkowski and WeAreChange, Dr. Judy Wood, Mark Dice, Gordon Duff and Veterans Today, Glenn Beck, Dmitri Khalezov, Noam Chomsky, Dylan Avery (Loose Change), Jim Feltzer, Gordon Duff (Veterans Today), David Icke, Webstar Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Jim Mars, James Corbett, Jeff Rense, etc.

LEV22 MEDIA ONE 3 months ago
This is by far the best presentation on 9-11 truth I have viewed, I dint believe like many, that our government was capable of doing this, but after the past years of doing my own research on 9-11....We should have Bush and Cheney taken to a firing range and shot for treason. Im a native New Yorker, who worked for a year at the towers and more must be done to put these criminals behind bars and ultimately executed....

Domdeone1 1 month ago
Twice I read today certain characters in the know state that to incite war on Iran, that said country will deliver a terrorist attack not in the Middle-East but just of the coast of America on American homeland.
And hopefully it wont happen but Americans will OMG We just gotta attack Iran now.
The sinking of the Luisitania, Pearl harbour & 9/11.
Three events that brought America into three major world wars. think about it.
We sure will fall for it again. (And Im from England)

 

[doggystyle99]

You are right. It is a waste. However, alternative theories emerge because it is a bit hard to swallow the official explanation:

Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. 

Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes.



And hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defence system the slip. 



Unfazed by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely. 



The laws of physics fail, and the world watches in awe as asymmetrical damage and scattered low temperature fires cause steel-framed buildings to collapse symmetrically through their own mass at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.



Despite their dastardly cunning and superb planning, they give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the destruction of steel and concrete and fall to the ground where they are quickly discovered lying on top of the mass of debris.

Meanwhile in Washington

Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a jet airliner. 

Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little. 

Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the Pentagon. 
Without ruining the nicely mowed lawn and at a speed just too fast to capture on video.


In the skies above Pennsylvania 

Desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that would not be possible until several years later.

And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, the airliner crashes into a Pennsylvania field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants except for the standard issue Muslim terrorist bandana.


During these events

President Bush continues to read “My Pet Goat” to a class of primary school children.


In New York

World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously. 


In Washington

The Neoconservatives are overjoyed by the arrival of the “New Pearl Harbor,” the necessary catalyst for launching their pre-planned wars.

These facts can not be ignored or refuted in any way, but fuji will come and post his personal opinion then call you some names and make assumptions to try to refute these facts.

The bearded guy was a multi millionaire with a huge following who had pulled off sophisticated attacks against US targets in the past, including direct assaults on US Navy ships.

As for hard drinkers, I bet quite a few navy seals are hard drinkers. Is it your assertion that hard drinkers are operationally ineffective? These guys found a weakness in the system that allowed them to take over airplanes and fly them into buildings. It wasn't mission impossible, it was poor security that failed to stop this sort of attack.

You hate is the US doesn't excuse you from posting garbage, your post above is pretty pathetic and demonstrates a closed and clouded mind.

And here it is his personal opinion and calling your post pathetic without proving otherwise.
A U.S ship while docked at a harbour which was attacked by a small fishing boat filled with explosives is not a very sophisticated attack and calling it sophisticated is just not true and is an idiotic statement to try to prove your point, that attack was the exact opposite of sophisticated.

Right, because the conspiracy extends to the publishers of every scientific journal. They are all in the pay of the CIA and winked knowingly at the authors when they rejected this garbage for publication.

You must schizophrenic.

P S., you next door neighbor works for the CIA too and is spying on you using nano robots that are crawling all over your skin.

And now the name calling continues.
Such a class act fuji is. Why is this guy still on TERB posting his ignorant posts and constantly trying to fight with others? SMH

What an online bully.

 

[danmand]

And now the name calling continues.
Such a class act fuji is. Why is this guy still on TERB posting his ignorant posts and constantly trying to fight with others? SMH

What an online bully.

Just put him on ignore as I have, then he will be deprived of an audience.

 

[Titalian]

Just put him on ignore as I have, then he will be deprived of an audience.

Why ? its entertaining listening to his unsubstantiated nonsense ! It turns out that 83% of Americans don't buy the official government story. So turns out fugi is in the minority. The Warren Commission BS all over again.

 

[danmand]

Why ? its entertaining listening to his unsubstantiated nonsense ! It turns out that 83% of Americans don't buy the official government story. So turns out fugi is in the minority. The Warren Commission BS all over again.

À chacun son goût

 

[GPIDEAL]

These facts can not be ignored or refuted in any way, but fuji will come and post his personal opinion then call you some names and make assumptions to try to refute these facts.



And here it is his personal opinion and calling your post pathetic without proving otherwise.
A U.S ship while docked at a harbour which was attacked by a small fishing boat filled with explosives is not a very sophisticated attack and calling it sophisticated is just not true and is an idiotic statement to try to prove your point, that attack was the exact opposite of sophisticated.



And now the name calling continues.
Such a class act fuji is. Why is this guy still on TERB posting his ignorant posts and constantly trying to fight with others? SMH

What an online bully.

I was on a JFK Assassination newsgroup at one time, and called some opponent "paranoid". The moderator deleted my post.

We shouldn't resort to ad hominem attacks in our arguments.

BTW, here's a link to a CIA report in 1967, now declassified, calling on CIA Assets to discredit critics of the Warren Commission Report. => http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=53510#relPageId=2

It was the 1st use of the term "conspiracy theorist".

 

[GPIDEAL]

............Unless instructed otherwise.


I hope you're not assuming the people who read this are so dense that they'll believe something so simplistic "Military guys don't care about controlled demolitions, they just want things to go BOOM!".

That doesn't imply that they're not skilled enough to know how to do controlled demos.
Man you guys are really throwing anything to an already very sketchy story. LOL

Maybe they do Tesla, but not to my knowledge.

Controlled demolition experts are in a field all their own. Plus they have experience.

They can bring down mulitple story buildings with even 100 pounds of TNT (as mentioned in one of the controlled-demolition video links embedded within the Alberto Miatello science article, who now believes, after his analysis and computations, that it could only have been from a controlled-demolition).

 

[GPIDEAL]

Lets reverse the tables here, you are probably the most knowledgeable ones on this board when it come to the JFK assassination. In reference to the Warren Commission report. Did you believe that there was more than one shooter. Even though the Commission only claimed one lone assassin.

I absolutely believe that there was more than one shooter.

JFK reacts to being hit well before he emerges from the Stemmons Freeway Sign. We know this because he stops waving to the side at spectators and reacts to an external stimuli. Even the HSCA (the second investigation) said that he was hit around Zapruder Frame 190 (ZF 190), whereas, Arlen Specter of the Warren Commission, would have us believe that a single bullet hit around ZF 222-224 to simultaneously wound both Kennedy and Connally, causing seven wounds and smashing through 10 cm of rib and hitting one of the hardest bones in the human body, the radial bone (wrist), and emerging virtually pristine (it is slight flattened at the base but the nose is perfectly round, and its striations contained absolutely no cloth fiber or biological tissue, lmao). Furthermore, how can JFK be ALREADY reacting to alleged soft-tissue injuries when Connally barely grimaces if any, circa ZF-224, after it smashed through his rib and wrist. This is preposterous.

I can go on and on, and also talk about reaction times and how it would be impossible for JFK to be hit around 222-224 and instantly exhibit a reaction (he would've had to been hit beforehand if you take into account reaction times).

There are so many red herrings too.

This guy explains it better than me, but his article is posted on a lone nutter's site, which you can ignore since the article is still by Michael T. Griffith, a superb JFK Assassination researcher.

Ten Reasons I Reject The Single Bullet Theory

http://www.kenrahn.com/JFK/Issues_and_evidence/Single-Bullet_theory/Ten_reasons.html

 

[GPIDEAL]

One more for you Titalian

This video was only available in VHS (I have an original); Chris Selby's REASONABLE DOUBT: THE SINGLE BULLET THEORY (1988). It is still relevant.

Fast forward to the 41 minute mark. You will see a discussion of the experiments to prove the SBT which failed!

You will first see Dr. Cyril Wecht*, a renowned Coroner in the USA and Doctor of Law with his comments, followed by Dr. Joseph Dolce, Edgewood Arsenal Ballistic Wounds Specialist, employed by the Warren Commission, but whose doubts were ignored.

Now lone nutters will argue that experiments that fire through wrist bones to cause deformity are wrong because the bullets are travelling too fast. IOW, they allege that the bullet that hit Governor Connally hit JFK first, which slowed it down enough to not cause deformity.

But you will hear Dr. Joseph Dolce in this video (after Wecht as described above) actually say that Commission Exhibit #399 (aka CE399 aka The Magic Bullet) could not have happened, EVEN AT SLOWER VELOCITIES. I didn't notice that qualification until I watched the video years later.

When you have time, you should watch the entire documentary. You will also see "the dean of assassination researchers", the late Harold Weisberg, who was a senate-intelligence investigator.


*Dr. Wecht was the sole dissenter of the House Select Committee on Assassinations' (HSCA) Forensic Pathology Panel.