Blue Jays: 2015 edition

gcostanza

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When the Jays visited Philly for a 2 game series in Aug. they split the series. Can't take any team for granted. .
This.

Very good baseball teams lose 38-42% of their games.
As bad as Atlanta & Philadelphia have been this season, both clubs are winning just shy of 39% of their games.
It's almost as likely that the Blue Jays will lose 2 of 3, sweep the series, or be swept, or win 2 of 3 games.
In short, anything can happen in baseball, and usually does.
Small sample sizes are dangerous things.
 

busterhut

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This guy is amazing!! He's exactly like Rickey Henderson, only much better!!!
This almost looks like you're saying Revere is like Rickey Henderson, but better.
When I read that, I had to check and see how many vodkas I had consumed.
When you say you've had 14 vodkas, most people would think that means drinks, not bottles.
 

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What I meant was Revere is playing much better as a Jay than Rickey H. ever did. Rickey was a total flop when he played for Toronto, but Revere has been awesome
 

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At that level I would say infielder continues back and does not call ball until able to comfortably make catch, which I realize is a grey area. Outfielder comes in and calls ball when able to make catch. If outfrielder calls ball infielder backs off, but outfielder has more latitude to call ball even if not quite sure of catch. If Tulo has called the ball, he should have a pretty easy play on it, which he did. Pillar got a little enthusiastic, But it is tough to say who called when and more emportantly who heard who. Really nobody to blame, but unfortunate and maybe preventable.
One of the things teams are suppose to work on is verbal communication. We have no idea what any of the players could or could not here, however, Goins, Donaldson, and Stroman should have been screaming(maybe they were) to get Tulo or Pillar out of there. IMO it was Pillar's ball but as said it wasn't a tough play for Tulo.
 

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Buehrle has normally been fine and has just had a couple of rough starts. Until the last blowout at Fenway, he was a top 20 pitcher in the AL and would be a #1 on several teams (Yanks, O's and Bosox included). Hutch, of course..........
Hutch pitching Wednesday signals a 6 man rotation. I predict Hutch will do well on Wednesday..he is a major league starter and this road woe thing will end. However, they could have gone..Buerhle, Price, Estrada all on regular rest..started Stroman Friday night at home. So the Hutch haters will have a field day if he does bad again.
Buehrle has been awesome until he came up sore, now we are going to find out how effective that cortisone shot was. Hutch(and I am not a Hutch hater) has been unpredictable all year. He has had some game where he looked awesome then had a bad inning. He is still too much of a thrower and needs to learn how to pitch like Buehrle and Price. I hear people wanting to dump him, and he is far too valuable to dump at this point. If he does not have a good game I would be reluctant to use him for anything more than mop up for the balance of the year. If you watch him closely you can see how hard he is trying and that may be part of the problem. Perry suggested a sports psychologist and that might be a good off season idea.
 

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One of the things teams are suppose to work on is verbal communication.
Buck Martinez told a funny story about verbal communication. He said that during one game he and one of his teammates were shouting to catch a pop fly. His teammate was shouting in Spanish and Buck (despite his Martinez last name) didn't understand Spanish.
 

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At that level I would say infielder continues back and does not call ball until able to comfortably make catch, which I realize is a grey area. Outfielder comes in and calls ball when able to make catch. If outfrielder calls ball infielder backs off, but outfielder has more latitude to call ball even if not quite sure of catch. If Tulo has called the ball, he should have a pretty easy play on it, which he did. Pillar got a little enthusiastic, But it is tough to say who called when and more emportantly who heard who. Really nobody to blame, but unfortunate and maybe preventable.
The centre fielder has the authority to call the ball- then its up to the infielder to get out of the way as the centre fielder has to keep his eye on the ball
 

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The centre fielder has the authority to call the ball- then its up to the infielder to get out of the way as the centre fielder has to keep his eye on the ball
I disagree in part. If the infielder calls the ball he should be in a position to make the catch comfrotably and Tulo was. Pillar can see Tulo, Tulo can't see Pillar. Both players probably have their eyes on the ball. Sometime it is difficult to hear, so additional help such as waving is useful, which Tulo did. I don't know who heard who, if anyone, but Pillar had Tulo in front which gives him a slight advantage, although not perfect. If there is an advantage to the centre fielder making the catch then it is his ball to take if all other factors are near equal. By the same token, Pillar has the authority to call off Jose Bautista on routine fly balls, but he doesn't unless there is reason for it.
Sometimes a player trying to get out of the way is what causes the collision. Tulo has no way of knowing exactly where Pillar is because he can't see him. Pillar can see Tulo much moer easily. As I said, really nobody to blame but unfortunate and maybe preventable.
 

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I disagree in part. If the infielder calls the ball he should be in a position to make the catch comfrotably and Tulo was. Pillar can see Tulo, Tulo can't see Pillar. Both players probably have their eyes on the ball. Sometime it is difficult to hear, so additional help such as waving is useful, which Tulo did. I don't know who heard who, if anyone, but Pillar had Tulo in front which gives him a slight advantage, although not perfect. If there is an advantage to the centre fielder making the catch then it is his ball to take if all other factors are near equal. By the same token, Pillar has the authority to call off Jose Bautista on routine fly balls, but he doesn't unless there is reason for it.
Sometimes a player trying to get out of the way is what causes the collision. Tulo has no way of knowing exactly where Pillar is because he can't see him. Pillar can see Tulo much moer easily. As I said, really nobody to blame but unfortunate and maybe preventable.
They are both watching the ball.

The rule is that the centre fielder can call off anyone. That includes the infielder. Its up to the infielder to get out of the way. Its not up to the centre fielder.

Its not a matter of opinion- thats how organized baseball is played.
 

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They are both watching the ball.

The rule is that the centre fielder can call off anyone. That includes the infielder. Its up to the infielder to get out of the way. Its not up to the centre fielder.

Its not a matter of opinion- thats how organized baseball is played.
Also if anyone one remembers when Donaldson scored off of a pop up to second it's because the momentum of the CF gives him the advantage to get the ball into the diamond.
 

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Kazmir v Hamels in Arlington tonight w first place in the AL West on the line in that series.
 

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Hutch pitching Wednesday signals a 6 man rotation. I predict Hutch will do well on Wednesday..he is a major league starter and this road woe thing will end. However, they could have gone..Buerhle, Price, Estrada all on regular rest..started Stroman Friday night at home. So the Hutch haters will have a field day if he does bad again.

Yah, with 3.5 game lead, I think they can afford to setup the rotation going into the playoffs. Stranger things have happened but we should be able to win the division (some odds are saying 90% winning), and avoid the 1 game wild card do-or-die game.
(never did like this 1 game wild card biz, I liked it when they had only 1 wild card team. So 4 teams in each league.)
 

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Rays pitcher Ramirez has a no-hitter going through 7
 

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Rays pitcher Ramirez has a no-hitter going through 7
Unfortunately the Rays haven't been able to score either. This is one of those games the Yanks just hang around and end up winning. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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Yah, with 3.5 game lead, I think they can afford to setup the rotation going into the playoffs. Stranger things have happened but we should be able to win the division (some odds are saying 90% winning), and avoid the 1 game wild card do-or-die game.
(never did like this 1 game wild card biz, I liked it when they had only 1 wild card team. So 4 teams in each league.)
Setup a rotation with over 3 weeks until the hoped for first playoff game? Winning the division gives them 3 off days at the end of the season, they can set things up going in to that last weekend, assuming they have clinched by then. Don't forget there's still the fight for home field going on as well.
 

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Unfortunately the Rays haven't been able to score either. This is one of those games the Yanks just hang around and end up winning. I hope I'm wrong.
I just knew it. Fucking Rays closer gives up 4 runs with 2 outs in the ninth.
 

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I just knew it. Fucking Rays closer gives up 4 runs with 2 outs in the ninth.
That's why they're a last place useless team, I guess.
 

mandrill

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Schedule:

3 with Braves
Then our last homestand - 3 with Red Sox
3 with Yankees
3 with Rays

Yankees are spot starting a guy from their Pen tonight, presumably to set up Tanaka for the Jays series. I am going to guess Jays are going to try to set up a Price, Estrada, Buehrle match up for the Yanks.
 
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