Why are women ALWAYS the victim??

Bud Plug

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Grabbing someones arm when they make a fist and gesture like they are gonna punch you will be seen as a reasonable defensive move by any sane person. When he did that, he could have clocked her if he had any intentions of harm, instead she stuck when he was not making any threatening gesture other then restraining her.
The problem with grabbing someone is that you are restraining them. It's a risky thing to do if you have any other alternatives (like simply backing away from the threat) to avoid a physical confrontation. Grabbing her virtually ensured a physical confrontation. She's going to be able to successfully argue that she only struck at him to escape his restraint. On this reasoning, he's not going to be able to rely on self defence. She won't be able to either, since she threatened to punch him before he grabbed her.
 

nature1

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you said he has a looser asshole, how do you know this?? You stated he has a loose asshole and that has no relevance to the story


From the dictionary

adjective, looser, loosest.
1.
free or released from fastening or attachment:
a loose end.
2.
free from anything that binds or restrains; unfettered:
loose cats prowling around in alleyways at night.
3.
uncombined, as a chemical element.
4.
not bound together:



This is more your description

looser
Idiotic way of spelling "loser". Most often used by teens and adults with no more than a 2nd grade grammar level.
Guy 1: OMG! Todd is such a looser!

Guy 2: I told myself I was going to do this do the next person I saw spelling the word "loser" like that; so now I am going to set your house on fire. You brought this upon yourself.
I think you misinterpret the point, I did not say he HAS a looser asshole I said he WAS a looser asshole. Yes, that word was spelled incorrectly as it was meant to parallel the mentality of this guy acting like a Neanderthal.

Has - a 3rd person singular present indicative of "have".

Was - 1st and 3rd person singular pt. indicative of "be".

BTW that is quite a "sobriquet" you have!
 

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Too bad for this young kid. A moment of poor judgement (based on what is acceptable in today's society) will cost him years of grief. I can't imagine any circumstances under which the girl involved would ever face repercussions for her behavior.

Men and women aren't treated the same under the law. For those that expect fairness, they will probably be better served changing their expectations than waiting for a change in how the laws are applied.

Life isn't always fair.
 

red

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Re-read what I wrote. I wrote about the clenched fist. At no point did I even defend the woman, other than to say she was at the bar first. Even if I did, so what? Why is a guy escalating a confrontation to the point where it gets physical with a "woman"? That's what I mean by old school.
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Old school thinking is fine if you are dealing with a well bred lady then you act as a gentleman but if you are attacked then you can defend yourself.

Of course this self defense never applies when it's a black guy touching a white woman, I guess
 

Toke

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Haven't read all the comments here, but I did watch the video.

My thoughts?

It's a crowded bar and anyone who has been in one has been bumped as people go by. His bump wasn't aggressive in nature and appeared to be 'commonplace' in such a situation (i.e. you have to do the slide/shuffle/rub-against move to get by alot of the time). The main thing I noticed that initiated the situation is that there was more than enough room for her to have let him pass, but you can clearly see her attempt to block him by shuffling to her left. There was no real verbal confrontation as she turned to face him with her fist cocked.

While I feel bad that she got the worst of it, she asked for it by kneeing him, cocking a fist, and then throwing a punch.
 

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I think you misinterpret the point, I did not say he HAS a looser asshole I said he WAS a looser asshole. Yes, that word was spelled incorrectly as it was meant to parallel the mentality of this guy acting like a Neanderthal.

Has - a 3rd person singular present indicative of "have".

Was - 1st and 3rd person singular pt. indicative of "be".

BTW that is quite a "sobriquet" you have!
You inferred that this gentleman was a looser asshole, meaning you somehow knew the tightness or lack of tightness of his asshole and the tightness of the asshole of the person you were comparing it to. I wanted to know how you knew this and the relevance of it to the case.

The urban dictionary stated that anyone with more than a 2nd grade edumacation should know the difference so I took it at face value, you even tried to pronunciate it to prove your point. I should apologize because I realize there are many people on here with varying levels of edumacation.
 
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TeeJay

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if somebody attacks you the criminal code say you have the right to defend yourself 40-50% of DV victims are men. 70% of non-reciprocal dv incidents are started by women.
Defending yourself is a far cry from escalating violence
Even in trigger happy USA they have limits

The guy was in no danger whatsoever from the woman
Yet he tried to knock her out

Funny how many people on terb seem unable to grasp this simple concept
 

Captain Fantastic

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Old school thinking is fine if you are dealing with a well bred lady then you act as a gentleman but if you are attacked then you can defend yourself.

Of course this self defense never applies when it's a black guy touching a white woman, I guess
If you're in any way inferring that I care about the colour of either of their skins, and especially if you think I have any hostility towards a black man, then you really don't pay attention to my posts and are being ignorant.
 

Toke

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Defending yourself is a far cry from escalating violence
Even in trigger happy USA they have limits

The guy was in no danger whatsoever from the woman
Yet he tried to knock her out

Funny how many people on terb seem unable to grasp this simple concept
Huh? She kneed him, cocked a fist, and swung before he did. Perhaps he wasn't in danger in the sense of 'she could have hurt him', but she indicated that she would try to.
 

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Defending yourself is a far cry from escalating violence
Even in trigger happy USA they have limits

The guy was in no danger whatsoever from the woman
Yet he tried to knock her out

Funny how many people on terb seem unable to grasp this simple concept
– Johnson looks to politely ask a female to his left to allow him through to the bar

– A different female student to the right whips around and says something to Johnson, who ignores her and tries to maintain his position in line

– Female student whips around again, seemingly unprovoked, and starts yelling at Johnson

– Johnson is now enraged after having been confronted twice by the female student

– Female student raises her fist and appears to be threatening Johnson

– Johnson, not wanting to be struck, grabs her arm to prevent her from swinging.

– Johnson appears to be warning her not to swing at him and continues to restrain her

– Female student uses her other fist to punch Johnson

– Johnson retaliates by punching the female student back
 

red

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Defending yourself is a far cry from escalating violence
Even in trigger happy USA they have limits

The guy was in no danger whatsoever from the woman
Yet he tried to knock her out

Funny how many people on terb seem unable to grasp this simple concept
He didn't try and knock her out. She didn't even fall down.
 

shack

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To reiterate, he may have been totally justified in smacking her, but for the sake of his career/scholarship, even he would now admit that he should have just walked away. To be exonerated later is still not worth the anxiety/stress of going through all this and the uncertainty of knowing whether his future career is at risk.
 

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I've watched the video several more times now. I think the part that people must be calling the "knee" or the "kick" happens for a split second immediately after he pins her right arm to her chest.

I can see her right thigh raised, but I can't see her strike him with either her knee or her foot. Interesting. It seems that people are just assuming that she must have kneed or kicked him at that time. He moves backward a few inches, but not in a single swift jolt of movement. There's no indication I can see from that video that she "struck" him with her knee or foot. Seems like she may have "pushed him off" using her leg. He was gripping her right arm and pressing it into her chest by that point.
 

nature1

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You inferred that this gentleman had a loose asshole or was a looser asshole, meaning you somehow knew the tightness or lack of tightness of his asshole and the tightness of the asshole of the person you were comparing it to. I wanted to know how you knew this and the relevance of it to the case.

The urban dictionary stated that anyone with more than a 2nd grade edumacation should know the difference so I took it at face value, you even tried to pronunciate it to prove your point. I should apologize because I realize there are many people on here with varying levels of edumacation.
I really do not think your mentality deserve another answer but I am going to give you the benefit of doubt regardless of your mentality. You are the one that is creating your argument by continuing to suggest that I said "he has a loose asshole or looser asshole". Did you not read my reply in which I told you my comment was NOT indicative of "have", but WAS indicative of "be"; that means he was "being" an asshole. I explained why I used the spelling of "looser" in this case and not "loser", and if you read my quote and were able to retain it you would now (know) that! However, judging by your quote at the end of your statements it sounds like you must have a "fixation" on assholes.

If you are still having a problem understanding go ask your mom, she can explain it to you. I am moving on to something more intelligent, that is if "aye cun undertand it wit mi two grad edumacation".
 

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The problem with grabbing someone is that you are restraining them. It's a risky thing to do if you have any other alternatives (like simply backing away from the threat) to avoid a physical confrontation. Grabbing her virtually ensured a physical confrontation. She's going to be able to successfully argue that she only struck at him to escape his restraint. On this reasoning, he's not going to be able to rely on self defence. She won't be able to either, since she threatened to punch him before he grabbed her.
Where could he back into, clearly the place was jammed. When threatened you keep your eye on the threat or you may get sucker punched. She can say that if she wants, but the question is, why did he clinch her fist and threaten him?
 

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I guess I am more old school but you definitely do not punch a female in any situation;
How oldschool are you, to be exact? Are you from the era that advocates "never hitting a female" but at the same time promotes "beating your own children" to teach them life lessons?
 

TeeJay

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I've watched the video several more times now. I think the part that people must be calling the "knee" or the "kick" happens for a split second immediately after he pins her right arm to her chest.

I can see her right thigh raised, but I can't see her strike him with either her knee or her foot. Interesting. It seems that people are just assuming that she must have kneed or kicked him at that time. He moves backward a few inches, but not in a single swift jolt of movement. There's no indication I can see from that video that she "struck" him with her knee or foot. Seems like she may have "pushed him off" using her leg. He was gripping her right arm and pressing it into her chest by that point.
She never sacked him, its people tryin to see what they want to see
I dont care how big a football star he is, if he got even grazed there he would have a physical reaction

Or do people on this board think he walks around wearing a cup
 
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