There is no standard definition for a winning team.
How would you define a winning season in hockey. Every team above 83 points? 3 point game screws that definition.
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How would you define a winning season in hockey. Every team above 83 points? 3 point game screws that definition.
Hockey is an interesting situation for defining what a .500 team is. Point inflation from all the 3 point games has confused the issue.
I think the best way is to figure out how many points are awarded for an average game.
I think it's something like 2.2 points awarded for each game over the course of an 82 game season.
That means to be a .500 team you need to get 1.1 points per game and over an 82 game season that works out to about 90 points.
So, in my opinion, a .500 hockey team is one that gets about 90 points a season although that number would change year to year depending on how many points are awarded for an average game.
It would be much better if the standings were Wins Loses and a 3rd column for bonus points for points earned for overtime loses.
If games won in overtime appear in the win column , then games lost in overtime should appear in the losss column. It makes for more honest standings.
What NHL standings are now is a distortion of reality, lies, and some sort of weird Disney fantasyland that does not reflect what actually went down.
Unfortunately, that's the way Gary Bettman wants it.
I am guessing w Hutchinson that when he has shitty control, he can't adjust and he panics and it all goes to shit quickly and horribly. The older pitchers just re group and work their way through it.
Pillar is a complete liability on the base paths. And given his ego, it's not like the coaches can tell him he's fucking up. And he can't be booted down to AAA like last year.
Agreed. However, I used your exact terminology. It doesn't seem right that a lawyer, intensely drilled on the precise use of words, would phrase something with such an ambiguous interpretation as to which you just admitted.
Sorry, I couldn't resist the opening you handed me.
Anyways, one widely accepted definition of a winning team is one that wins more than it loses. That means 82 wins minimum. Now if when you said "winning team" re: Gibbons you meant winning it all, that would be a championship team. If that was the case only one team each year fits that definition. Tough odds for Gibby. Tough odds for any manager. I wonder what %age of managers have won a WS. Gotta be under 10%.
As Kilgore so clearly pointed out, hockey is an aberration re:that term. Totally non-analogous. I am on record here (not that I could find it) as pointing that out numerous times when someone talks about a .500 team in the NHL. .500 in games vs. points is a team in the bottom 1/3 of the league and never in the playoffs. Hardly an average team, which is what I believe is the intent of describing a team as a .500 team
.500 based on points earned by a team vs. the points gained on average by an NHL team is slightly over 1.1 but it changes yearly. Indeed, hockey is fucked up. But I do believe that is the standard to which a .500 team in hockey should be held.
The news release said that Cards are cooperating with the investigation. Leads me to wonder if this was all a private adventure by a few mid management types. In any event, Cards ownership will cut them loose promptly.
Getting interesting. Reports now say the Cards hired a law firm back in Feb. to look into all this mess so someone high up in the Cardinal organization must have known what was going on. Jays looking much better tonight.
If that was suppose to be a double steal, not Pillar but Valencia screwed up! No matter who was to blame, it was awful.
Both guys had good nights at the plate, to atone for the gaff, but at the time it happened it sure looked as if it could effect the outcome of the game.
Unless it was Pillar just taking off for a straight steal of 2nd and making what would have been a sure inning-ending out. In which case, Valencia did the best thing possible and attempt to break for home and score, in the hopes that the Mets would screw up the play or Pillar would break back to 1st and force a time-consuming run-down while Valencia plated.
TORONTO — Devon Travis will meet up with the triple-A Buffalo Bisons in Lehigh Valley on Thursday to continue his rehab assignment. The second baseman could be ready to rejoin the Toronto Blue Jays sometime this weekend.
"Definitely by the beginning of next week, I would think," Blue Jays manager John Gibbons said. "He’s feeling good. Now he needs to get his swing going a little bit."
Travis has one hit in 11 at-bats for the double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats over the first three games of his rehab stint as he recovers from left shoulder inflammation. He hasn’t reported any discomfort in his shoulder during or after his rehab games.
Travis first suffered the injury on April 30 in Cleveland when a groundball skipped up off the grass and caught him in the collarbone. He tried playing through the discomfort for two weeks but his production suffered and he was eventually shut down on May 17.
Travis was batting .325/.393/.625 with six home runs in 22 games prior to the injury, but he hit just .185/.241/.315 with one homer in 14 games after it.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/devon-travis-could-rejoin-blue-jays-this-weekend/
if that was the case I agree, however, I don't think that Pillar has the green light, so, if that thought is correct, straight steal or double steal it would come from the bench.
Lot of 'ifs' in this, would love to hear what happened from the manager.
At time of writing, he is tied for the team lead in stolen bases. Doesn't excuse his mental meltdown a couple of days ago (always watch the runner in front of you...), but hardly a "complete liability".
a winning season could be judged that if a team meets or exceeds expectations ....or could it mean a successful season?
http://www.barnburnersports.com/blog/2015/6/18/john-farrell-to-be-fired
The 2011 Red Sox had chicken and beers, the 2015 Red Sox appear to have hooters. Not the food chain, but the ones you can find on Instagram models. During yesterday's 5-2 loss in Atlanta Pablo Sandoval took time during the game to go on the social media outlet and like photos of a particularly busty local woman on Instagram. ....
The sort of thing that might be chuckly for a first place team on a winning streak and if Sandoval didn't regularly make a "boob" of himself at third base. OTOH, it might qualify him as "athlete most likely to be on TERB during road trips to Toronto".
The 2011 Red Sox had chicken and beers, the 2015 Red Sox appear to have hooters. Not the food chain, but the ones you can find on Instagram models. During yesterday's 5-2 loss in Atlanta Pablo Sandoval took time during the game to go on the social media outlet and like photos of a particularly busty local woman on Instagram. ....
The sort of thing that might be chuckly for a first place team on a winning streak and if Sandoval didn't regularly make a "boob" of himself at third base. OTOH, it might qualify him as "athlete most likely to be on TERB during road trips to Toronto".
Neither did R.A. Dickey. All 5 walks were in the 1st 3 innings, ump appreared to miss a
3rd strike call that would've gotten Jays out of the inning and saved R.A. 2 of those walks..
I thought he missed 2 third strike calls and I believe that was what caused the discussion between Dickey and the ump at the end of the inning.
Those calls really caused Dickey's pitch count to soar.
