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Hobbying is more efficient than Dating.

waynward

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So the other day I was on a date with a cute asian girl (A 7 for those of you into numbers. Cute but not drop dead gorgeous) that I met at a nightclub. We laughed and had a good time. She seemed like a smart woman who has got her career together.

I came home and thought to myself not so sure if I was motivated to go on a second date with her. If I had met her before I started hobbying, it for sure would have been a second date. But my bar has raised and my patience has been minimized.

At this stage of my life, really all I do care about is sex. Not that is the only value I derive from my relationship with the opposite sex. I love women and their company in general. Which is why I have allot of female friends. Along with I have had some very long term relationships and enjoyed the companionship aspect. However I am not willing to pay the price for the emotional debt that comes with a committed relationships. Considering my longest term relationship I broke out of for being sexually stale.

I have always been an independent guy. Most of my real life girlfriends would agree that I'm fairly low maintenance and not at all needy. I always have my own direction and things I need to do in my life. So while I enjoy the companionship aspect of a relationship, not a big deal for me to not have it in my life. As I see it as a choice I have made to have my sexual variety. And I found myself thinking after the date, do I really want to jump through all these hoops and play the games with for the goal of just having sex?

The next day I visited an SP and had mind blowing sex. Truly this Hobby has made all my sexual fantasies come to life. All which would have taken an incredible (And may not have been possible) amount of effort through conventional dating. And it allows me to just to focus on my career and being more successful to enjoy more of it. Simple, straightforward and all pleasurable. The next day I hit another nightclub with a friend. Where I would approach beautiful women and have no anxiety about that. But find myself not even that motivated, wondering even we did hook up they might be mediocre in bed at best.

Its not that I can't get regular dates. I am in my late 30s, however I been blessed with the fountain of youth that everyone thinks I am in my twenties. Including the women I date in their early twenties who are aware and don't seem to care about the age difference. While I am no male model, it's not like I'm not decent looking enough to get a real date. It's just all the hassle that involved sometimes doesn't seem worth it if the only goal is sex. I usually just continue to do it because I feel its a good thing for my own self development to challenge myself. And eventually I might at SOME point want to settle down. Although I would think given my need for variety it would have to be a polyamorous open marriage. As I see conventional marriage a bit of a trap. (For both parties).

This hobby has really changed my thinking about regular dating. Never thought I would think of things this way. I mean literally regular dating has become something I do merely for the challenge and the desire to keep myself growing. But certainly isn't for the sex anymore as I get that immediate gratification and ultimate satisfaction through the hobby. And aside from convenience the level sexual satisifaction has rarely matched that of hobbying.

Anyone else been through a similar process?
 

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I actually enjoy women more with the p4p option so readily available as I enjoy who they are without being clouded by the desire to have sex with them because of a need for sex.

I am fortunate in that I have quite satisfying romantic relationships but I am always cognizant of the trap.

Best thing I ever did was get a vasectomy! NO CHANCE I will ever get trapped by pregnancy!
 

roger20

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So the other day I was on a date with a cute asian girl (A 7 for those of you into numbers. Cute but not drop dead gorgeous) that I met at a nightclub. We laughed and had a good time. She seemed like a smart woman who has got her career together.

I came home and thought to myself not so sure if I was motivated to go on a second date with her. If I had met her before I started hobbying, it for sure would have been a second date. But my bar has raised and my patience has been minimized.

At this stage of my life, really all I do care about is sex. Not that is the only value I derive from my relationship with the opposite sex. I love women and their company in general. Which is why I have allot of female friends. Along with I have had some very long term relationships and enjoyed the companionship aspect. However I am not willing to pay the price for the emotional debt that comes with a committed relationships. Considering my longest term relationship I broke out of for being sexually stale.

I have always been an independent guy. Most of my real life girlfriends would agree that I'm fairly low maintenance and not at all needy. I always have my own direction and things I need to do in my life. So while I enjoy the companionship aspect of a relationship, not a big deal for me to not have it in my life. As I see it as a choice I have made to have my sexual variety. And I found myself thinking after the date, do I really want to jump through all these hoops and play the games with for the goal of just having sex?

The next day I visited an SP and had mind blowing sex. Truly this Hobby has made all my sexual fantasies come to life. All which would have taken an incredible (And may not have been possible) amount of effort through conventional dating. And it allows me to just to focus on my career and being more successful to enjoy more of it. Simple, straightforward and all pleasurable. The next day I hit another nightclub with a friend. Where I would approach beautiful women and have no anxiety about that. But find myself not even that motivated, wondering even we did hook up they might be mediocre in bed at best.

Its not that I can't get regular dates. I am in my late 30s, however I been blessed with the fountain of youth that everyone thinks I am in my twenties. Including the women I date in their early twenties who are aware and don't seem to care about the age difference. While I am no male model, it's not like I'm not decent looking enough to get a real date. It's just all the hassle that involved sometimes doesn't seem worth it if the only goal is sex. I usually just continue to do it because I feel its a good thing for my own self development to challenge myself. And eventually I might at SOME point want to settle down. Although I would think given my need for variety it would have to be a polyamorous open marriage. As I see conventional marriage a bit of a trap. (For both parties).

This hobby has really changed my thinking about regular dating. Never thought I would think of things this way. I mean literally regular dating has become something I do merely for the challenge and the desire to keep myself growing. But certainly isn't for the sex anymore as I get that immediate gratification and ultimate satisfaction through the hobby. And aside from convenience the level sexual satisifaction has rarely matched that of hobbying.

Anyone else been through a similar process?
Totally agree and understand! Can't really be bothered with the games just to get your dick wet when there's plenty of options out there... The head games that girls play are tedious... Hard to get?? Why on earth?

The thing I'm noticing nowadays are more women are facing the reality of their situation and putting up less of a front OR coming right out and being down for pay-for-play. I have a bit of a phobia calling agencies so this actually works for me!
 

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Always remember that hobbying is not a valid substitute for a real relationship.

I think the point these guys are making is that hobbying is/can be a valid and legitimate part of real life.
 

waynward

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Always remember that hobbying is not a valid substitute for a real relationship.
Of course. But it is a valid substitute for sex. If not a better substitute from "real" montomous, boring, vanilla sex. Day in and day out with the same person year after year.
 

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well....your mindset is pretty clear from your original post. Escorts and normal girls being compared is an apples to apples only when it's isolated to sex.

Tell me this: what when you're older or if you can't afford to pay.....would you not want companionship and someone to trust and confide in etc etc? Someone your equal. Even if you choose not to marry?
 

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well....your mindset is pretty clear from your original post. Escorts and normal girls being compared is an apples to apples only when it's isolated to sex.

Tell me this: what when you're older or if you can't afford to pay.....would you not want companionship and someone to trust and confide in etc etc? Someone your equal. Even if you choose not to marry?
Have you not got the brochure for fred's retirement home?
 

waynward

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Not really... Again, it's a nice thing to have in life and my longest relationship was 5.5 years which I enjoyed. But I enjoy sexual variety more. But I have always gotton by myself and not a necessary for someone to "be there" for me.

I see plenty of miserable married couples. And definetely see some of my male friends and family where their spirit as a man just seems to be dying. And they become subservient docile creatures afraid of their nagging wives. It's taken courage to say "Fuck this I'm not falling into that trap, there has to be a better way" and step up and do it my way. Regardless of what Friends and Family think. As they usually try to convince you otherwise, since it helps to personally justify their own bad choices and years of misery they have lived through. Hence why in my mind Open Polyamourous marriages should be the way to go, at least for me.

End of the day you have to be able to take care of yourself and love yourself. And from there love for others flows more naturally. And its not like you can't have meaningful relationships with friends and family too. But too many people go with the expectation of someone else taking care of them. Which I think leads to allot of problems and people get soft and not developing a certain independance in themselves. Even in a relationships I have been fairly independant and try to not put any expectations on my partner on what they should do for me. That way if they do anything for me, I consider it a gift and a bonus in my life but not a pre-requisite. As I have always it my mind on how to get on my own two feet. And I will give in the relationship for the sake of giving and out of lovingness. Not for expecting them to do something back like they owe me.

If I didn't worship the religious Tantric experience of sex like I do, my thought process would that of a buddhist and try to minimize on your attachment to things as life as much as possible for more long term hapiness. I could give up money, nice cars, big homes, material things, fancy jobs titles etc (Having had all those things)....but my lust (Or say sexual admiration) for the opposite sex is one vice I can't give up...Those feminine curves always cast their spell on me and awaken the raw passionate spirit in me that brings me to the highest level of ectasy...So hence why I'm not a Buddhist.

As far as being old and can't afford to pay. Seems like plenty hobbyist are on the "older" side. So I would just figure out the funding logistics and work it into my "retirement" plan. Really isn't that much, considering a budget of $480 per month could get you a couple 1 hour visits per month. So for a budget of around six grand per year living an amazing porno sex life in your Viagra days. Which is basically the yearly cost of leasing a half decent new car. Sure beats trying to score with the grannies.

Tell me this: what when you're older or if you can't afford to pay.....would you not want companionship and someone to trust and confide in etc etc? Someone your equal. Even if you choose not to marry?
 
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Masturbation is even more efficient. No chance of double booking or being told to wait, and you don't even have to leave the house! (I have, however, been told to leave this Starbucks)
 
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Smallcock

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Always remember that hobbying is not a valid substitute for a real relationship.
But it is a legit substitute for clubbing and dating strictly for sex.

There are plenty of female pigs out there but even those can run all kinds of games. Much more convenient and practical to spend less money and time and fulfill ones sexual fantasies through hobbying. Conventional dating for sex becomesmerely bonus.

9 out of 10 SPs that you have had sex with would play games or reject you if you had approached them conventionally. You could promise them the world, spend money wining and dining, and not get anywhere and be out of pocket hundreds of dollars. The very same female you can have for $160/half or less and get immediate sexual gratification - from the same girl by meeting her via agency instead of the club, bar, bookstore, wherever.

For example I can virtually gaurantee that every guy that approached Aria at the club she was dancing at got shut down https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?524856-Aria-Mirage. They could take her on a city tour drop $500 on her and get no play. However if they knew better, they could have her do everything under the sun to them sexually by booking her thru Mirage. Bypass the dressing up, the loud music, the competition, the waiting in line, the drinks, the time, the hitting on numbers game, the smooth talk, the exchange of numbers, the back-and-forth texting/calling. And once you've done your thing, you can walk away just as free and unencumbered as you were before you booked her.
 

waynward

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Well said...The force is strong in this one.

But it is a legit substitute for clubbing and dating strictly for sex.

There are plenty of female pigs out there but even those can run all kinds of games. Much more convenient and practical to spend less money and time and fulfill ones sexual fantasies through hobbying. Conventional dating for sex becomes merely bonus. The time that hobbying saves in chasing pussy can be out to use in making $$$ and improving quality of life.

9 out of 10 SPs that you have had sex with would play games or reject you if you had approached them conventionally. You could promise them the world, spend money wining and dining, and not get anywhere and be out of pocket hundreds of dollars. The very same female you can have for $160/half or less and get immediate sexual gratification - from the same girl by meeting her via agency instead of the club, bar, bookstore, wherever.
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Interesting thoughts on this thread especially since I just saw that movie 'Shame' with Michael Fassbender, which shows the dark side of this hobby and on real 'relationships.' The reality is there are grey areas in everything. I think it's fine if you can enjoy this hobby without becoming an addiction since it can easily.
 

Smallcock

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It has a lo to do with age. Once you're an adult making money, and you have financial commitments (house, investments, car...or family), and goals, the days of casual dating for sex becomes very difficult. It works when you're young and can devote all your time to it because you have no responsibilities and your female peers are just as eager to date casually instead of hoping for romance or marriage. But it's a huge burden in terms of time management the older you get. Plus you're not as young and hot as you once were and now have to compete with a new younger crowd if hot young pussy is your thing.

At the end of the day it's to satisfy the desire for sex effortlessly and to fulfill sexual fantasies, including knowing you've had your cock inside hundreds of pussies. No man, no matter how hot or suave can bag that many women conventionally. It also includes fucking a hot stranger within minutes of meeting her - how many times has a woman sucked your cock bare back within 5 minutes of meeting her in a conventional setting? It doesn't happen.

Hobbying for sex is the ultimate. Maybe many or most men hobby for a relationship. I don't understand that. But there are also men like me who hobby because I enjoy sex - the female body and variety, and I desire a lot of it. I like to fuck and suck often and not limit it to one or two partners. The hobby offers everything a guy like me needs as far as sex goes.

What I look for in a relationship is much more than sex.
 
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