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Bluebeam22

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You barely know her? Damned right is would be selfish and dickish. I mean, if she was the love of your life that you had known for ages, then... well, love trumps all sense and logic. But you just met her and wanna get your wick dipped? It would be an asshole move. The only thing worse than acting on this impulse would be attempting to rationalize it as ANYTHING other than an asshole move.
You don't know me at all so I won't comment on most of the above of what you just said. I can tell you unequivocally that I'm not just trying to get laid here. I've spent enough time with this person to know that I am extremely attracted to them, personality and demeanor far more than looks, and sometimes when you've met someone you click with you just know. It may be an asshole thing to do but I can assure you it's driven by my heart and not my dick. In no way am I trying to rationalize anything, sometimes your gut just knows when you've met someone amazing and your heart cannot contain itself especially when you feel that you could enhance their lives in a way that their SO could not. Anyways I appreciate everyone's honesty
 

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[...]I've spent enough time with this person to know that I am extremely attracted to them, personality and demeanor far more than looks, and sometimes when you've met someone you click with you just know. It may be an asshole thing to do but I can assure you it's driven by my heart and not my dick.[...]
Okay, so hang around more than a few weeks. If she feels the same way, surely she'll initiate something and/or end her current relationship. Return any flirtations, but don't initiate them. If it doesn't happen in a few months, then she likes what she has with him more than the possibility of something with you, be happy you've made an awesome new friend, and move on. I wouldn't hold your breath, but it's not impossible.
 

AdamH

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He's not talking about trying to fuck this chick behind her SO's back..

He's asking whether or not he should let this chick know he's developed feelings for her.. If she chooses to break shit off with her SO because of this knowledge then her fucking relationship was too shitty to survive the knowledge that somebody else was interested (aka, not very fucking good)..

Nothing to feel bad about at all..
 

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He's not talking about trying to fuck this chick behind her SO's back..

He's asking whether or not he should let this chick know he's developed feelings for her.. If she chooses to break shit off with her SO because of this knowledge then her fucking relationship was too shitty to survive the knowledge that somebody else was interested (aka, not very fucking good)..

Nothing to feel bad about at all..
Thank you DR. Phil
 

IM469

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He's not talking about trying to fuck this chick behind her SO's back..

He's asking whether or not he should let this chick know he's developed feelings for her.. If she chooses to break shit off with her SO because of this knowledge then her fucking relationship was too shitty to survive the knowledge that somebody else was interested (aka, not very fucking good)..

Nothing to feel bad about at all..
"He's not talking about trying to fuck this chick behind her SO's back.. He's asking whether or not he should let this chick know he's developed feelings for her." How is that not trying to fuck the girl behind his back ?????

Your girlfriend tells you she doesn't like being with you and your best friend because he keeps flirting with her when your back is turned so you tell her that's OK - that's what good friends do.

This is an education Dr Phil, I usually don't worry about my 'friends' hitting on my SO. Totally different if she is an 'ex' but active ..... fuck I couldn't do it to my friend.
 

GPIDEAL

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The O.P. just wants to know if he should be honest to tell her about his feelings, unless it is selfish to do so because it might affect her relationship.

Frankly, I don't know how he would know this to be the case, if after knowing her for a short time.

Maybe more like a foolish move (and selfishness can make one do foolish things).

Bottom line to me, it's pre-mature.

(Now this thread is not to be confused with a situation involving a married person that is looking for or reciprocates to have, an affair or fling).
 

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Yet so many husbands cheat :rolleyes:
I wouldn't know about that... I'm single. I was married once, and was faithful to her until we split in 2008. Shortly thereafter, I joined this site.

Its the "bro code"... One just does not pursue an "attached" woman.

And I'm sorry you took offense with my terminology Rebecca,
Ugh, I hate this wording :)
I meant no disrespect. Its merely a figure of speech.
 

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Id just recently met this girl in the past few weeks and was introduced through my sister-in-law, was extremely interested immediately until I found out about SO and backed off. We have never had any sort of verbal exchanges but have shared plenty of glances that said a lot without saying anything at all. I recently have seen them interact and it appears on the surface to be a typical relationship these days of two people content with each other but afraid they couldn't find anyone else, but that's just my subjective (yet I'm sure biased) view. Clearly there needs to be more information for someone to get a full grasp of this situation but the points you and others have brought forth are much appreciated thx
If you were friends with SO then it's would be wrong. In realty all love is a bit selfish- no relationship has ever started out of altruism. You ask a woman out because you are attracted to her. She may not know you are alive but still you must try. Stop trying to woo her and woo her
 

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Yes, it is a purely selfish act. You already say that you know that it is at the expense of another person.

And it is likely futile. except if it is your intention to damage, if not outright ruin the friendship.

You will find that having good friends is far more important than a girlfriend. And you have such an obstacle to overcome even IF she might share feelings for you. But if she doesn't, and you are really her friend, she doesn't have romantic feelings for you and unlike grade school, telling her you "like her" does not automatically make for reciprocal "like". And you risk being deemed creepy.

My advice?

Maintain a foster a real friendship with her. If in time, things change, she may find your arms comforting.
If he waits the likely scenario is he is friend and that's all. He just met her so they aren't really friends
 

SchlongConery

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If he waits the likely scenario is he is friend and that's all. He just met her so they aren't really friends

Considering neither has breathed a word to each other they are not even acquaintances! What do you call it when a guy thinks a woman is looking at him with lust, that some innocent blink is a secret signal that there is something between them? (just kidding!)
 

red

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Considering neither has breathed a word to each other they are not even acquaintances! What do you call it when a guy thinks a woman is looking at him with lust, that some innocent blink is a secret signal that there is something between them? (just kidding!)
It's likely he is delusional like all of us. It takes courage to walk across the floor and ask someone out- the only reason we do it is because we think she will say yes.
 

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When i was married sometimes flirty eye contact was made from my husbands friends and acquaintances and even though i i thought some of the guys were cute and made me giggle I still wouldn't have cheated on my husband. Its natural to feel attractions but that doesn't mean theres cheating involved.
 

frankcastle

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This is as diverse of a group that I can think of so I pose this question to you all in hope to resolve an inner conflict that I am having so here goes. Is it a selfish act to try to manifest your own happiness at the expense of another person or persons? More specifically, if you develop feelings for someone in a relationship (not marriage), is it wrong to tell that person if it may cause conflict in their relationship or worse it causes a break-up?? And discuss....
Not worth the trouble, risk, fall out

At some point if the person does leave their partner and things are rocky she will blame you for getting her to leave.

It is a no win situation as the odds of this being the perfect dream relationship is nil as there is no such thing as a perfect relationship.
 

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When i was married sometimes flirty eye contact was made from my husbands friends and acquaintances and even though i i thought some of the guys were cute and made me giggle I still wouldn't have cheated on my husband. Its natural to feel attractions but that doesn't mean theres cheating involved.
Madonna's right, women do love the attention, and why not, but they mostly will not act on it, if there's a core attachment to their partner.
Where as some of us as men would simply jump at the opportunity. Lets just ask questions later.
 

AdamH

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"He's not talking about trying to fuck this chick behind her SO's back.. He's asking whether or not he should let this chick know he's developed feelings for her." How is that not trying to fuck the girl behind his back ?????

Your girlfriend tells you she doesn't like being with you and your best friend because he keeps flirting with her when your back is turned so you tell her that's OK - that's what good friends do.

This is an education Dr Phil, I usually don't worry about my 'friends' hitting on my SO. Totally different if she is an 'ex' but active ..... fuck I couldn't do it to my friend.
Firstly, no, telling a girl you have feelings for her isn't the same as trying to fuck her.. Sure he'd undoubtedly LIKE to fuck her, but te's not trying to break up a relationship for some casual sex, he's looking to start another relationship.

Secondly, the girl is his friend.. Her SO is NOT. He's not being a dick to a FRIEND, he's being a dick to his FRIEND'S boyfriend..
 

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Secondly, the girl is his friend...

No she is not his "friend". She is someone he saw at a friend's party. They had never breathed a word to each other. He just thinks they exchanged furtive glances of love.

He is asking whether it is ethical for him to break out his secret powers and tell this stranger that he "likes her". Which would of course lead to her falling madly in love with him, thereby breaking up her established relationship, causing the existing boyfriend to kill himself, deep repercussions being felt throughout her extended family and his as well as the axis of the earth becoming more tilted.

Just kidding OP!

It is a good topic for discussion, even though the OP already acknowledged it would indeed be selfish.
 
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