Blue Jays: 2015 edition

shack

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Shacko, I've noticed you don't like a lot of opinions I express and that's okay because, in truth, half the time I don't know what I'm talking about anyway.
So fair's fair.

The only quibble I have is why do you wait until after I say or do something you find offensive before you criticize me.

It seems to me when you do that you're just being an armchair critic acting with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.
And that is just totally bush league.

You should criticize me before I do or say something you find offensive then I would respect what you have to say.:eyebrows:

Quote Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout View Post
I was just following last night's game on the internet on the ESPN box score every 30 minutes or so because I couldn't listen to it or watch it and just happened to click in when Aaron Loup came into the game with 0.0 innings pitched and Jays leading 3-1.

And I said to myself, that's it, the game's over. There's no way they can survive a blunder move like that.
I know his stats are somewhat okay; but, still, Aaron Loup has screwed the team over way too many times in the past to be trusted late in a tight game in a high leverage situation.
Castro is bred to be a starting pitcher and was showing no signs of being tired; so, what was the point of switching over to a pitcher with much less talent than Castro.

I generally support John Gibbons; but, to me this loss is his fault. Sometimes a manager has to just get out of the way of the players and let them do the job they can do.
Instead he artificially meddled in a situation where meddling was not necessary. All he had to do was keep things in cruise control.
Anyway, Osuna and Castro both pitched brilliantly last night while Loup and Cecil were total clunkers.

I worship at the church of "whatever works right now baby" and I hope the wheels start turning in John Gibbon's mind because if he keeps managing the bullpen like he did last night, this team is going to melt faster than the wicked witch of the west


Quote Originally Posted by Insidious Von View Post
Martin should have been replaced after Gibby went to the bullpen. He was so focused on catching the knuckleball he had nothing left for the relievers. His pitch selection was poor and the relievers didn't respond. Sometimes you have to put the chance to win over an individual player, Gibby has never done that.

shack
So I've asked you guys a couple of times if you agree with Castro as the closer.

The manager doesn't get to use hindsight. What is your opinion, while the jury is still out?


The only quibble I have is why do you wait until after I say or do something you find offensive before you criticize me.
Cute response above but why did you not respond to my original question? I asked your opinion (3X) on putting Castro in as the closer. Nothing. That is crux of my criticism. Here was the chance to comment on a manager's move without the value of hindsight but no reply forthcoming whereas after a game, you are so certain of the mistakes Gibby made.
 

Ironhead

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I have not been an AA fan from the start, but he did make some good and bad trades.
The longer the team goes without addressing the lack in starter pitching the deeper hole the team has to climb out of.
I did not like giving up such potential for Dickey.
You can some times live with a GM who's good trades out weight the bad ones, but it seems with AA the bad trades out weight the good ones.
 

AK-47

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Another good outing by a starting pitcher ruined by the bullpen.

#FireGibby now!!
 

teassoc

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Another good outing by a starting pitcher ruined by the bullpen.

#FireGibby now!!
The starting pitchers with the exception of Dickey don't seem to be the main problem right now. Its the bullpen. Already recognised by AA over the winter as the biggest problem but still not fixed.

Apart from Osuna and maybe Cecil, there doesn't seem to be anyone who can be trusted to hold a lead.
 

mandrill

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Another good outing by a starting pitcher ruined by the bullpen.

#FireGibby now!!
Delabar allowed one crucial hit when Hutch had put 2 on. Otherwise, not a bad night for the pen. For the 2nd night in a row, decent enough pitching and no timely hitting.
 

teassoc

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Delabar allowed one crucial hit when Hutch had put 2 on. Otherwise, not a bad night for the pen. For the 2nd night in a row, decent enough pitching and no timely hitting.
The bullpen is the worst in baseball right now in allowing inherited runners to score. Something over 40%.

That inflates the stats for the starting pitchers.
 

Dawgger

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Another good outing by a starting pitcher ruined by the bullpen.

#FireGibby now!!
Fire him? Because he knew Delabar was going to give up a hit? Stop with the hind sight crap all ready!

The bull pen sucks and the starters are not a lot better. Not the managers fault! Two nights in a row the bullpen has let the team down, fire the bullpen!
 

AK-47

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Fire him? Because he knew Delabar was going to give up a hit? Stop with the hind sight crap all ready!

The bull pen sucks and the starters are not a lot better. Not the managers fault! Two nights in a row the bullpen has let the team down, fire the bullpen!
I already told you, I want someones head on a platter just to shake things up a bit.

Will also settle for an EE firing. Preferably both
 

AK-47

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I meant AA.....LOL.

I cant even keep the bums apart now
 

AK-47

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Would you guys stop fucking bitching at each other FFS??!!

Jeezus :rolleyes:
 
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