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Blue Jays: 2015 edition

Perry Mason

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The chickenshits will only comment once they know what happened.
Well, what did you expect?

We are critics, not managers! :D

Want me to manage rather than critique? Then give me access to all the information he has and appoint me a manager [no... thank you]!

Perry
 

shack

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Well, what did you expect?

We are critics, not managers! :D

Want me to manage rather than critique? Then give me access to all the information he has and appoint me a manager [no... thank you]!

Perry
Which means how much can a critic's opinion be worth when he can only speculate, seeing as he doesn't have all the info? He's only guessing.
 

Kilgore Trout

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Steve Simmons says in today's paper that the problem with the Jays is they are built for the future, not for today.
One Blue Jay executive called the performance of the team in the first quarter "a complete f' ing distaster".

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/18/blue-jays-built-to-win-in-future-not-now


I agree with him.

They have some pretty good parts that could make for a strong pitching staff 2 or 3 years down the road.
The biggest problem is that the timelines of players like Bautista and Encarnacion don't slush in or mesh in with when these pitchers are likely to be pretty good.
And that's a huge problem.

To me the older veterans who have market value should be traded and the team should acquire prospects that can contribute meaningfully in a couple of years.
I think Billy Beane would do that and he's a pretty good GM.

And I don't blame Gibby for the poor performance of the team. Overall, I think he's done a pretty good job.
It's not his fault he's forced to use some of the pitchers he's stuck with.
As Don Cherry once said when he got fired from a coaching job in Denver: "You can't soar like an eagle when you're working with turkeys".

And as for AA.
He's a tough one to evaluate. I kind of like the guy to be honest. He has a good heart for baseball.
But then again I did like J.P. Ricciardi mainly because he was such a great and entertaining talker in post game call in shows.
I loved Ricciardi even though some of his moves turned out to be not so great.
The thing about AA is that he's almost brilliant at times and then blows it by getting a bit careless.

He did draft Kris Bryant, but couldn't sign him.
He was just about the only one who knew about Noah Syndergaard the year he was drafted; but, gave him away for pretty much nothing.
He signed Henderson Alvarez as an international free agent and then tossed him away.
He almost got Aroldis Chapman out of Cuba; but, got nervous and backed out at the last second.


He's been a really good drafter of players and he has some pretty good instincts about who might be good.
He has to learn to trust his gut more and stop thinking himself out of his gut feelings.
That's the way it looks to me anyway.

There's always next year as they say in Dodgerland.
 

AK-47

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Sanchez has excellent stuff so far tonight
 

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AK-47

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Another fine pitching performance wasted.

Very frustrating
 

Perry Mason

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Which means how much can a critic's opinion be worth when he can only speculate, seeing as he doesn't have all the info? He's only guessing.
You have your logic all fucked up. You are a master of the non sequitur (yeah, look it up!).

The manager needs the info because he is speculating on events that have yet to happen: foresight

The critic is reviewing events after they have happened: hindsight.

Does not mean that the critic's opinion is worthless.

Different roles.

Perry
 

Dawgger

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What I'm not willing to accept are the armchair critics who see the end result and say, "I knew Gibby shouldn't have put in that pitcher at that time" or "he should have pinch hit for so and so" or as if they know all the workings of major league trading.

They only comment after the fact. I tried asking a couple of guys 3 times if they thought making Castro the closer was going to work or not. They refused to answer. The chickenshits will only comment once they know what happened.
I hear you. Hindsight beats foresight!
I rarely knock Gibby. I don't believe you can win consistently with the roster he has to work with.:frusty:
 

AK-47

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If things don't turn around FAST Gibbys gone by June 1 maybe even AA
Is that your personal opinion, or do you have an inside source??
 

shack

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The critic is reviewing events after they have happened: hindsight.

Does not mean that the critic's opinion is worthless.
Seeing as hindsight is 100% a critic will never be wrong when analyzing a manager's moves. Anybody can be a critic and be right all the time, even you Perry.
 

Kilgore Trout

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Shacko, I've noticed you don't like a lot of opinions I express and that's okay because, in truth, half the time I don't know what I'm talking about anyway.
So fair's fair.

The only quibble I have is why do you wait until after I say or do something you find offensive before you criticize me.

It seems to me when you do that you're just being an armchair critic acting with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.
And that is just totally bush league.

You should criticize me before I do or say something you find offensive then I would respect what you have to say.:eyebrows:
 

AK-47

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I know a guy who has a friend whose wife's former boyfriend used to play semi-pro ball in Mexico.....
What a coincidence, I think I know this player as well.

Was his last name Diaz??
 

Perry Mason

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Seeing as hindsight is 100% a critic will never be wrong when analyzing a manager's moves. Anybody can be a critic and be right all the time, even you Perry.
As I said, you are a master of the non sequitur...

Perry
 

AK-47

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How about we trade Encarnacion or Bautista for a quality starting pitcher??

Or heck, maybe trade both of them??
 

AK-47

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Bottom of the lineup doing the clutch hitting so far tonight.

3-1
 
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