Building 7 what's that? (NIST) lolI watched your Youtube video. Again no mention of building 7 !!!
Building 7 what's that? (NIST) lolI watched your Youtube video. Again no mention of building 7 !!!
I never cared for nor looked into it until I read your post, interesting points brought up with pictures.If you can believe it, there are loons who think the Boston bombings were staged.
Nothing compelling about wtc7?I definitely agree. There has been a wealth of independent, scientific testing and analysis from sources I trust and they all basically agree with Robertson's assessment of the failure. I try to keep an open mind and have watched and read allot of the conspiracy theory stuff, but so far I haven't found anything compelling, although certainly interesting. I've not looked at any of the WTC 7 stuff and may in the near future. I admit I have no expertise, other than my non-related professional engineering background.
Only thing I think is being BSed about is the flight recorders. No way all 4 completely disappeared.
Someone above mentioned that they didn't find parts of the plane and engines in the debris. Not true - I saw a fair bit in the museum and in most of the TV specials they showed video inside the warehouse where they were "rebuilding" the jets as part of the investigation.
Also someone above mentioned there are no videos of the Pentagon damage. I would 100% expect that. It's one of the most secure building in the US and it's been hardened against terrorism and spy tech. They don't want any bad-guys to be able to examine the video or pictures in order to overcome their defenses. Makes sense to me.
Fail: I stated: "I've not looked at any of the WTC 7 stuff and may in the near future."Nothing compelling about wtc7?
First, you need to shut-down your racism. That was an idiot thing to say.As for Pentagon videos, I call bullshit, if the government v version is true and its so secretive a place, how the heck did some stupid Arabs who couldn't fly Cessnas manage to crash an airliner into it on first try? Lol
What!? What goes on WITHIN the building is what is secret. Obviously the building is not hidden (or for you tin-hat looney types, cloaked or moved between dimensions).Plus the irony that the Pentagon I'd such a well guarded secret these clowns found it no problem.
Yet in your post #31 you state "One other thing that has me wondering, the Pentagon, no video, just some 5sec clip of an explosion and there are 85 cameras around the Pentagon? Really? Why not show what happened? *shrug*"There are tons of pictures if the Pentagon available online as well as video on 911, I looked it up the day it happened.
How did you manage to tie in "being pro US and/or Israel" to all of this. I've never ever said anything about Israel on Terb ever. I think your racism is starting to become obvious.So your story or defense of their story (being pro US and/or Israel) doesn't hold. Sorry
I did specifically mention loons. You guys have issues.I never cared for nor looked into it until I read your post, interesting points brought up with pictures.
Also, isn't real blood more dark in colour?
Understood and I asked if you found nothing compelling enough to even look into it?Fail: I stated: "I've not looked at any of the WTC 7 stuff and may in the near future."
Actually, that was the point. I was calling them stupid, because these guys weren't professional pilots. Just a bunch of goons who attempted something INCREDIBLY hard and impossible (according to a LOT of PROFESSIONAL pilots).First, you need to shut-down your racism. That was an idiot thing to say.
Again, no fail here.Fail: Clearly all three hijacked planes managed to strike their targets on the first attempt. What is your point?
That my friend, was sarcasm. I was being facetious.What!? What goes on WITHIN the building is what is secret. Obviously the building is not hidden (or for you tin-hat looney types, cloaked or moved between dimensions).
Exactly, that's my point. EVERYONE (almost everyone) knows the Pentago, can look up where it is, what it looks like.Yet in your post #31 you state "One other thing that has me wondering, the Pentagon, no video, just some 5sec clip of an explosion and there are 85 cameras around the Pentagon? Really? Why not show what happened? *shrug*"
Make up your mind FFS!
I stand by my original statement.
Racism how so? I think it's clear that those who refute sound, scientific facts and evidence, along with questionable actions by the government clearly follow an ideological path and do so because of other motives.How did you manage to tie in "being pro US and/or Israel" to all of this. I've never ever said anything about Israel on Terb ever. I think your racism is starting to become obvious.
Shocker.But for the record, yes I'm pro-American.
I did specifically mention loons. You guys have issues.
You can't debunk MY (??) "experts" who were an integral part of the builidng of the towers? lol Sorry that just sounded comical "your experts". lolSeriously Tesla, you and Titalian should more carefully verify the information you provide instead of just throwing links out here. Much of the info has already been debunked by others and many of your "experts" aren't experts on the WTC itself, nor did they have access to the materials for examination or testing.
Who is they ?? you are cherry picking your facts again. 'They' is usually a twisted or made up quote conveniently fabricated to provide frivolous or irrelevant data that appears to counter the fabricated story line.Good post Tes, Never mind the fuselage? What about the Titanium turbines Which btw only melt at 3200 degrees ?? But they said that the whole plane disintegrated. WHAT?
Pretty much the issue with conspiracy theorists. In the same paragraph you say the towers were hit then you go on to say there were no planes....
Again, no fail here.
The Twin Towers were hit. Even THEN, there are a LOT of skeptics out there (engineers AND pilots who argue it wouldn't be possible for the planes to fly at those speeds and to be able to hit the towers with such accuracy on the first try). But you can go argue with them here.
I haven't watch this all myself, but he sure sounds like he knows what he's talking about and other pilots agree with him.
Watch from 15:00 and onward, 2 pilots describe what it's like to fly those airliners at those speeds.
But enough of that.
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On the contrary, I believe planes hit the buildings.Pretty much the issue with conspiracy theorists. In the same paragraph you say the towers were hit then you go on to say there were no planes.
You don't really care what arguments or if they contradict each other as long as you can fight against authority.
I'm glad you brought that pic up. obviously for some reason no one is watching the videos we have posted.Who is they ?? you are cherry picking your facts again. 'They' is usually a twisted or made up quote conveniently fabricated to provide frivolous or irrelevant data that appears to counter the fabricated story line.
Engine parts were found around the site & in the rubble as noted in the reports. Nobody except the tin foil hat clan suggest that titanium fans burned. Similarly all the reports of steel beams melting come from the same 'they' as opposed to the structural fatigue caused by the heat. You really have to put on some special blinders to ignore so many facts.
Jes*s Titalian, again did you check your facts?? Could that engine be from the OTHER jet which DID have those types of engines?? (I know, you are now going to argue 737 vs 767). At this point I'm not going to further provide links debunking your and Tesla's conspiracy theory. Tesla's racist rants put a bad taste in my mouth.I'm glad you brought that pic up. obviously for some reason no one is watching the videos we have posted.
That engine in the pic on Murray St, is a CFM56 Manufactured by General Electric, the problem with this is that
United Airlines strictly used Pratt & Whitney engines. Some schmuck decided to dump this engine off as proof,
only problem is it was the wrong engine. LOL
From the video at 6:00, the clown in the video says, “Flight 11 & 77 didn’t exist… no record of them taking off…”You got it Promo, go to time line 3:40. The explanation on the engine that was found.
Typically in tall building design the elevator core is reinforced concrete of a very strong design. The core is designed to resist the lateral loading of wind and or seismic loads.
Floors then frame into the core.
One of the most efficient ways to brace against wind is "the braced frame". It's simply a steel arrangement were you have a vertical X pinned to adjacent column rows. You can see this type of design in the sears tower in Chicago for example. It's low tech, but it works like a charm.
I studied structural engineering and took metallurgy courses for three semesters before switching to a related field. In a situation where a plane full of fuel slams into a building above mid level and a fire erupts from the burning fuels on board. There is not an existing structure that would survive since none of this is taken into consideration during the conception, design and construction. A fire at mid level in and building design would have weakened and buckled the steel support columns causing all of the above weight to come down on the lower portion of the building. This would act like a karate chop breaking multiple concrete slabs. The top slab breaking would facilitate the breaking of the lower slabs but only if there is a space between the slabs. If the concrete slabs are place one on top of each other with no space then it becomes much harder to break. This was exactly what happened at the WTC incident. This would be true if it would have been any other structural design.
In the above GIF you can see on the graph after the karate chop the initial impact breaks the first slab, the lower slabs are broken by the weight of the first slab breaking.
The collapse of the WTC is not evidence of any government conspiracy
What happened at the WTF incident is exactly what would have happened in a controlled implosion of a structure. The supports are knocked out and the weight of the building is used to take down the structure.
I will check it out later when I have time.Thank you Promo, for at least taking the time to watch this presentation, which is more
than I can say for others. The sad truth is that this event will always have a dark shadow
surrounding the circumstances.
So when you posted video claiming there were no planes and said the guy sounded like he was reliable you were .....?On the contrary, I believe planes hit the buildings.....