9/11 was ‘mother of all false flag attacks’: US scholar

[TESLAMotors]

I am guessing that you aren't worried when a 1/2 ounce (12.8 gram) 303 bullet is fired point blank at you since that would be 1/2 ounce trying to break through your body weighing ~ 3,000 ounces. Yeah ..... you 'Gotcha' Fuji pretty good with that logic !

Human bodies while incredible at healing and other things, weren't designed to stop projectiles like bullets.


SURELY, when designing skyscrapers, engineers, architects, and more engineers and more architects, considered AIRPLANES as a main factor when building high into the sky.


ie -

The engineers and architects WHO ACTUALLY BUILT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER (RE for us Cdns) said that this building was designed to take multiple hits from jet liners, it's a huge solid building, with many things taken into account. Except thermite, when used on steel creates molten steel, lava, stuff in a foundry, the kind of stuff that was found on the scene by firefighters, demolition teams, rescue workers.
Conveniently enough, NIST claimed they didn't see any evidence of that.

 

[TESLAMotors]

Not to mention, on Tes's last note, Bush and his cronies were also waiting to investigate, till all the evidence from ground zero got shipped to China !! Why China?

Sure took them awhile and it was also under CONSTANT PRESSURE from the families of those who lost loved ones.

Like one of the wives said, why didn't the President say "heads should roll for this" (travesty). But nope.

Monica Lewinsky Scandal investigation - $80 million
World Trade Center Investigation - $14 million.

lmao what a load of crap:thumb:

 

[GPIDEAL]

I was making a point to basketcase in how you wouldn't need as many people as he thinks to be a part of the attacks. He threw out that you'd need air traffic controllers in on the plan.
The point was, air traffic control failed miserably that day and they were simply doing their job - according to the "government story of how it all went down".
I'm pointing out that it wouldn't be necessary as they did a shit job at figuring things out anyways. Either way, they fucked up, whether unintentionally or intentionally.

Don't make me retract my comment about you not being stupid. I was being nice, but I can also be not so cordial.

With respect to the air traffic controllers, don't forget that those planes had their transponders switched off. That impeded tracking, especially since they reduced their altitudes for conventional radar.

 

[GPIDEAL]

@ Tesla,

What does 13,000 tons represent? I don't think you're describing what you're trying to convey correctly. Surely, the plan did not have to pass through 13,000 tones of concrete and steel, like crashing into a dam or similar solid structure.

 

[Titalian]

@ Tesla,

What does 13,000 tons represent? I don't think you're describing what you're trying to convey correctly. Surely, the plan did not have to pass through 13,000 tones of concrete and steel, like crashing into a dam or similar solid structure.

Not to mention, the 4" thick steel trusses. The wings should have snapped off, just like the bomber that hit the Empire State building. Don't you think ??

 

[basketcase]

The lastfew posts have been quite entertaining. Simply a couple people who don't understand about science enough to know what's happening deciding that since it is strange it must be magic. Burn the witch! Sorry - Too much python in my youth. Must be a conspiracy.

 

[basketcase]

Actually that scene is a pretty good example of conspiracy logic. Ignoring contrary evidence and making ridiculous leaps of logic.

Peasants: We have found a witch! (A witch! a witch!)
Burn her burn her!

Peasant 1: We have found a witch, may we burn her?
(cheers)
Vladimir: How do you known she is a witch?
P2: She looks like one!
V: Bring her forward
(advance)
Woman: I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!
V: ehh... but you are dressed like one.
W: They dressed me up like this!
All: naah no we didn't... no.
W: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
(V lifts up carrot)
V: Well?
P1: Well we did do the nose
V: The nose?
P1: ...And the hat, but she is a witch!
(all: yeah, burn her burn her!)
V: Did you dress her up like this?
P1: No! (no no... no) Yes. (yes yeah) a bit (a bit bit a bit) But she has got a wart!
(P3 points at wart)
V: What makes you think she is a witch?
P2: Well, she turned me into a newt!
V: A newt?!
(P2 pause & look around)
P2: I got better.
(pause)
P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
(king walks in)
V: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
P1: Are there? Well then tell us! (tell us)
V: Tell me... what do you do with witches?
P3: Burn'em! Burn them up! (burn burn burn)
V: What do you burn apart from witches?
P1: More witches! (P2 nudge P1)
(pause)
P3: Wood!
V: So, why do witches burn?
(long pause)
P2: Cuz they're made of... wood?
V: Gooood.
(crowd congratulates P2)
V: So, how do we tell if she is made of wood?
P1: Build a bridge out of her!
V: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
P1: Oh yeah...
V: Does wood sink in water?
P1: No
P3: No. It floats!
P1: Let's throw her into the bog! (yeah yeah ya!)
V: What also floats in water?
P1: Bread
P3: Apples
P2: Very small rocks
(V looks annoyed)
P1: Cider
P3: Grape gravy
P1: Cherries
P3: Mud
King: A Duck!
(all look and stare at king)
V: Exactly! So, logically...
P1(thinking): If she ways the same as a duck... she's made of wood!
V: And therefore,
(pause & think)
P3: A witch! (P1: a witch)(P2: a witch)(all: a witch!)
V: We shall use my largest scales.
(V jumps down)
----------------------------end?---------------------------------
(walk over while cheering)
(push her into scale)
V: Right, remove the stops!
(wait while scales remains still)
All: A witch! burn her burn her!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

 

[fuji]

What reasons? lol Those aren't reasons those are ideological ideas and agenda driven excuses.

I was referring to the reasons you gave in your post, but go on punching yourself in the face, it is fun to watch.

The buildings DID survive the impact of the planes, exactly as the people YOU quoted say it was designed to. Nobody anywhere claims the impacts caused the buildings to collapse. What NIST has said correctly and accurately is that the buildings collapsed due to the heat generated by the fire and not due to the impacts.

 

[TESLAMotors]

I was referring to the reasons you gave in your post, but go on punching yourself in the face, it is fun to watch.

The buildings DID survive the impact of the planes, exactly as the people YOU quoted say it was designed to. Nobody anywhere claims the impacts caused the buildings to collapse. What NIST has said correctly and accurately is that the buildings collapsed due to the heat generated by the fire and not due to the impacts.

Funny you should mention that.
On February 13, 1975, the WTC North Tower was beset by a fire, which "burned at temperatures in excess of 700°C (1,292°F) for over three hours and spread over some 65 percent of the 11th floor, including the core, caused no serious structural damage to the steel structure. In particular, no trusses needed to be replaced."

Sources: New York Times, Saturday 15th February 1975

 

[Titalian]

The lastfew posts have been quite entertaining. Simply a couple people who don't understand about science enough to know what's happening deciding that since it is strange it must be magic. Burn the witch! Sorry - Too much python in my youth. Must be a conspiracy.

Glad you enjoyed it. And are learning something. Btw the magic you mention was broadcast'd by the major networks.

 

[KBear]

Not to mention, the 4" thick steel trusses. The wings should have snapped off, just like the bomber that hit the Empire State building. Don't you think ??

You will believe what you want, but is silly to compare the impact of a small slow moving WW2 bomber to the impact of a jetliner. Is like saying the one car survived impact from a moped so why didn't the other car survive the impact from the dump truck.

 

[fuji]

Funny you should mention that.
On February 13, 1975, the WTC North Tower was beset by a fire, which "burned at temperatures in excess of 700°C (1,292°F) for over three hours and spread over some 65 percent of the 11th floor, including the core, caused no serious structural damage to the steel structure. In particular, no trusses needed to be replaced."

Sources: New York Times, Saturday 15th February 1975

I was involved in a car accident once and nobody was hurt. Guess you believe that every reported car accident fatality is actually a conspiracy.

 

[basketcase]

Funny you should mention that.
On February 13, 1975, the WTC North Tower was beset by a fire, which "burned at temperatures in excess of 700°C (1,292°F) for over three hours and spread over some 65 percent of the 11th floor, including the core, caused no serious structural damage to the steel structure. In particular, no trusses needed to be replaced."

Sources: New York Times, Saturday 15th February 1975

A fire on one floor with the entire structure intact vs. a fire on multiple floors with a significant part of the load bearing exterior missing. Strange that the results are different.

 

[basketcase]

Glad you enjoyed it. And are learning something. Btw the magic you mention was broadcast'd by the major networks.

Broadcasts you claimed were faked because they magically turned the missiles you claimed hit the building into the spitting image of airplanes. In fact those magic broadcasts were so good that thousands of people were tricked into seeing airplanes with their own eyes.

 

[Titalian]

Broadcasts you claimed were faked because they magically turned the missiles you claimed hit the building into the spitting image of airplanes. In fact those magic broadcasts were so good that thousands of people were tricked into seeing airplanes with their own eyes.

Airline pilots and their point of view. Very interesting.

 

[basketcase]

Airline pilots and their point of view. Very interesting.
...

And back to the python quote. If it weighs the same as a duck then it must be made of wood and therefore a conspiracy!.

 

[Titalian]

And back to the python quote. If it weighs the same as a duck then it must be made of wood and therefore a conspiracy!.

I can tell from your quick reply that haven't even watched it. Figures !

 

[fuji]

Airline pilots and their point of view. Very interesting.

Kooky. You guys really prove what they say, there is a sucker born every minute. The corollary is that is you upload stupid wrong information to the internet, some idiot will believe it.

 

[basketcase]

I can tell from your quick reply that haven't even watched it. Figures !

Sorry but 45 minutes of conspiracy theories is a bit much for me on a work night. Perhaps since you must have watched it in its entirety you can summarize.

 

[TESLAMotors]

A fire on one floor with the entire structure intact vs. a fire on multiple floors with a significant part of the load bearing exterior missing. Strange that the results are different.

Oh, if that plane hit the building then according to you, it really fucked some shit up.
Then there's the fire of 1975. lol

So now perhaps you should bicker with basketcase as he thinks the planes went through very successfully and caused a big ol' fuck up.

Fuji, fuji, you make me laugh, you're a cool dude brother.:thumb: