Who are they going to give land up to?Israel isn't refusing to take those territory actually it is refusing to give them up and ending the occupation. Abbas is asking to end the occupation but Neteyahu said he won't .
Even if he actually felt that way, in a democracy, a guy who only holds 23% of the vote doesn't always get his way.Netenyahu said there will be no state there, that means he wouldn't hand over that territory to the UN to create an independant state there
And Mexicans can't freely earn a living in the US.That's even worse, palestinians live in the same state but aren't allowed to earn a living outside their enclave/reserve
Yet at the same time, generations of Arabs without rights in the countries of their birth doesn't seem to bother him....
You started this nonsense by claiming that Arabs in the West Bank are living in the state of Israeli and should have had the right to vote in the national election.....
Who are they going to give land up to?
I asked you before. A majority of Palestinians are opposed to a two state peace and an overwhelming majority opposed to a one state peace. How do you suggest peaceful Palestinian state is created under those circumstances?
Why? The one doesn't follow from the other.If it's under Israeli control, then it's one state
The word "other" in point No. 2 is misleading. In fact, it is a territory that is not part of any state.Let's do the maths
1-Israel controls a territory
2--This territory is not part of any other istate
3- Which state is left ?
Show me a resolution from the UN SC rejecting Palestinian statehood or admit that you are a blatant liar and note well that declining to pass a resolution does NOT mean they've rejected anything other than the resolution -- it sure as hell is not a statement by the UN SC on whether or not there is a Palestinian state!!!!! Moreover Netanyuhu is not "the Israeli government", his opinions are not law, you know that and yet you continue to lie about that too.Where is this fictional palestinian state ? It has no army , no border control, no currency, no independant population registry, no indpendant tax revenue. The UN security council who has more power the GA and the Israeli government ( netenyahu ) rejected their full statehood , Only you left to agree there is a Palestinian state ?
This is just false. It is occupied territory.OK I rectify what I have said. If it's under Israeli control, then it's one state
Indeed. If it were part of the state of Israel, it wouldn't seem necessary for the Israeli army to be there.Why there is israeli army and civilian Israeli settlements there then?
Show me the resolution the council enacted that says Palestine is not a state or admit you are a liar.UN security council rejects Palestinian statehood bid
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/30/un-security-council-rejects-palestinian-statehood-bid
Show me the resolution PASSED by the security council that says Palestine isn't a state, the PASSED resolution that you claim overruled the General Assembly resolution that declared Palestine a state.The defeated resolution would have affirmed the urgent need to achieve “a just, lasting and comprehensive peaceful solution” to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict within 12 months and set a 31 December, 2017 deadline for Israel’s occupation to end.
It is a territory that is under military control. It is not a state or part of a state.If a state isn't independent, it's part of another state and therefore it isn't a state. So if the west bank isn't independent , it belongs to Israel
"Also" being the key word. It was vetoed because of the other things it called for, like the specific timeline for the occupation to end. No one on the council objected to Palestine being a non member state.It also called for an independent state of Palestine to be established within the 1967 Middle East borders
Wrong. Palestine is OCCUPIED by Israel not part of Israel. Your statement above is idiotic and false.If a state isn't independent, it's part of another state and therefore it isn't a state. So if the west bank isn't independent , it belongs to Israel
The Palestinians don't want that, at least, not the Palestinians who are armed and engaged in war with Israel. The armed Palestinians want violence. They want to ethnically cleanse all Jews. They are racist aggressors driven by hate who seek violence.I don't support terrorism. I'm against violence. I think that Palestinians should follow the examples of successful peaceful resistance like Mahatma Gandi m Marin Luther King and 'one man , one vote' in south africa , and ask for equal rights under one state, now that two states solutions is dead.
Nope. This is false. You know it is false. You know it is occupied territory.if it isn't a state , then it's part of the state that has control over that territory.
Holy fuck are you so stupid that you can't figure out what the words "non member state" mean? It is just three words. Resort to a dictionary as necessary!This is a the list of the UN members, where is the state of Palestine ? keep lying
www.un.org/en/members/
and you didn't answer my question
Gaza has clear borders and an army. Fatah has an army too for that matter. The west bank borders are pretty clear on most sides. There is a dispute over one border but lots of states have disputed borders.Where is this fictional palestinian state
Here's an idea: Since you remain convinced that the only thing required to achieve statehood is for you to declare on TERB that people in a certain area are living in a state, why don't you just declare that Palestine is an independent state.if it isn't a state , then it's part of the state that has control over that territory. Also the military rule applies only to arab residents in the west bank, the jewish settlers are subject to israeli civil law which leads to an apartheid situation in the west bank
