Two Israeli soldiers killed by Hezbollah....very fishy stuff.

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I stand by it. You have a long track record on terb of supporting brutal dictators, hating democracy, and generally being anti-Western. I didn't base my comment on your one post here alone, but on your whole posting history. We all know exactly where your sympathies lie: with terrorists, dictators, and anyone else who hates democracy. I'm happy to produce a long list of quotes from your various posts that shows that.

So, really, nobody is surprised that you think it was awful Saddam Hussein was ousted.
So.. I guess 61% of Americans that dont support the war on Iraq and don't believe the war on Iraq was JustifIED are all supporter of Saddam.

You are a crazy kook. You need to reschedule an appointment with your DR.
 

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So.. I guess 61% of Americans that dont support the war on Iraq and don't believe the war on Iraq was JustifIED are all supporter of Saddam.

You are a crazy kook. You need to reschedule an appointment with your DR.
There are lots of reasons why someone might not support it. Are you counting me in your 61% number? I supported the invasion but I have been a harsh critic of the way the war was conducted, I think poor planning and inappropriate rules of engagement resulted in literally millions of unnecessary deaths. I have said I think people like Bremmer should be held accountable, perhaps even prosecuted. So how do you count me?

In your case though it is clear that you simply hate the West, love authoritarian regimes, and go apoplectic when somebody actually cracks down on terrorists, dictators, etc.

That is probably not why 61% of Americans (and me) have issues with the war in Iraq, but it is clearly why you do.
 

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There are lots of reasons why someone might not support it. Are you counting me in your 61% number? I supported the invasion but I have been a harsh critic of the way the war was conducted, I think poor planning and inappropriate rules of engagement resulted in literally millions of unnecessary deaths. I have said I think people like Bremmer should be held accountable, perhaps even prosecuted. So how do you count me?

In your case though it is clear that you simply hate the West, love authoritarian regimes, and go apoplectic when somebody actually cracks down on terrorists, dictators, etc.

That is probably not why 61% of Americans (and me) have issues with the war in Iraq, but it is clearly why you do.
you are in supoort and called it just. the Removal of a regime without a majority support by its very own civilian population itself is bound to fail. and without that "majority" in support of the war how do you call this a democracy? More like hypocrisy.

There is no dispute whatsoever that the livelihood of Iraqis are wrost under American invasion (not that I support it) it is far more gruesome what the America did than Saddam. Not choosing to support one evil doesn't mean you have to choose to support another evil.
 

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No, moron, Hamas has been thwarted by Iron Dome. israel has in fact hit Gaza with a large number of missiles that hit exactly where they were aimed, and the number of civilian deaths has been spectacularly low for a conflict of that size. Compare with any other conflict in the region, or really any other comparable modern conflict. None have had that low a casualty rate.

The only way that happens is if the Israelis are being careful to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties, directly proving wrong your HORSESHIT about Israel showing reckless disregard for civilians. On the contrary, IDF has indeed pioneered methods of warfare the limit civilian harm.
HAHA range against the opinion of the Pentagon all you want. You are probably the only more pro Israel entity then them. Even before Iron Dome there were very few Israeli casualties form Hamas missiles.
 

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There are lots of reasons why someone might not support it. Are you counting me in your 61% number? I supported the invasion but I have been a harsh critic of the way the war was conducted, I think poor planning and inappropriate rules of engagement resulted in literally millions of unnecessary deaths. I have said I think people like Bremmer should be held accountable, perhaps even prosecuted. So how do you count me?

In your case though it is clear that you simply hate the West, love authoritarian regimes, and go apoplectic when somebody actually cracks down on terrorists, dictators, etc.

That is probably not why 61% of Americans (and me) have issues with the war in Iraq, but it is clearly why you do.
Just because someone does not support the war on Iraq, it is pretty idiotic to say they support Saddam. Often leaders are put in the position of making choosing between bad and terrible. Fighting wars over ideology is very dangerous. Someday China will probably rule the world and they do not have the same ideology as us.. what then?
 

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millions of Lebanese felt threatened by Israel not Hezbollah That's what I was pointing out.

And there's no indication that Lebanese livelihood are wrost then k1976 as GDP and exports have grown significantly over the past decades
Millions feel threatened by Hezbollah and their Syrian/Iranian backers. You might have heard of an event called the Cedar Revolution.
 

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HAHA range against the opinion of the Pentagon all you want. You are probably the only more pro Israel entity then them. Even before Iron Dome there were very few Israeli casualties form Hamas missiles.
Just a reminder. You said that Hamas rockets were so bad that they forced Israel out of Gaza. It's pretty amusing when your arguments contradict themselves.
 

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Just because someone does not support the war on Iraq, it is pretty idiotic to say they support Saddam....
Of course that would be idiotic. Of course when that person has a long history of supporting dictators (such as Assad) simply because of their anti-Israel/anti-US it's a pretty reasonable statement.
 

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Millions feel threatened by Hezbollah and their Syrian/Iranian backers. You might have heard of an event called the Cedar Revolution.
Though it is true that Lebanese was fearful of another assassination. Until this day there is still no clear indications who the culprits are.

What I must remind you is that both Hezbollah and current opposition party have expressed concerns over israels aggression.
 

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you are in supoort and called it just. the Removal of a regime without a majority support by its very own civilian population itself is bound to fail. and without that "majority" in support of the war how do you call this a democracy? More like hypocrisy.

There is no dispute whatsoever that the livelihood of Iraqis are wrost under American invasion (not that I support it) it is far more gruesome what the America did than Saddam. Not choosing to support one evil doesn't mean you have to choose to support another evil.
I called the decision to invade just, and it was. The implementation of that decision was sorely lacking.
 

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Just because someone does not support the war on Iraq, it is pretty idiotic to say they support Saddam. Often leaders are put in the position of making choosing between bad and terrible. Fighting wars over ideology is very dangerous. Someday China will probably rule the world and they do not have the same ideology as us.. what then?
I'm basing my assessment of exceed on his entire posting history. He consistently supported dictators and terrorists and consistently criticized democracies. He supports Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel, Saddam against the US, pretty much consistently any nasty dictator or terrorist against any democracy.
 

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Of course that would be idiotic. Of course when that person has a long history of supporting dictators (such as Assad) simply because of their anti-Israel/anti-US it's a pretty reasonable statement.
I don't know of anybody in this forum that would be stupid enough to support Assad regime. Is he/she a personal friend of yours? Please point out the person so we can all dispise him
 

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I'm basing my assessment of exceed on his entire posting history. He consistently supported dictators and terrorists and consistently criticized democracies. He supports Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel, Saddam against the US, pretty much consistently any nasty dictator or terrorist against any democracy.
I've never supported Hamas never ever supported Saddam. You have to cautious when you choose your words.
 

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I called the decision to invade just, and it was. The implementation of that decision was sorely lacking.
This is where I disagree with you I don't find the invasion just or morally responsible for such there are many misleading information that has brought us into the war
 

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This is where I disagree with you I don't find the invasion just or morally responsible for such there are many misleading information that has brought us into the war
Of course you don't, because you love brutal dictators like Assad, Saddam, Khameini, etc, and it pisses you off when the West does something about them. You love Putin too.

I really could care less what the Americans said about their reasons, Saddam was a serial aggressor who repeatedly attacked his neighbors, terrorized his own people, and he needed to go.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 

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how come terb board/members are so anti-semitic? why dont you guys just fly to syria and join isis already, leave the girls to us jews!
 
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