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Two Israeli soldiers killed by Hezbollah....very fishy stuff.

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Most sane people now know the Iraqi war was based on a pack of lies. So I see you still support it. Make it pretty clear what you are all about.
Most? Everybody knows we've been lied into the Iraq war. Even a Chinese farmer would know that shit.
 

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So when faced by atrocities in the Arab world you say it's not our place to comment yet when it comes to Israel, you feel the need to spew endlessly.
The difference is we provide support for Israel endlessly, we are the ones should criticize Israel as we place our image as a global peacekeeping process across the globe
 

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Nonsense, the airport was already closed by the Lebanese so it just amounted to vandalism and criminality. You don't think Hezbollah has port generators and batteries? One again horseshit. UN accounting of the dead does not sync with what you claim. Of course no one knows for sure but their number would have a smidgen of objectivity.
Airports can be used for resupply. Generators run out of fuel and limit energy consumption.

You just keep frothing.
 

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Wow. Pretty interesting view.

First off you are now justifying invasions if it is claimed as a stabilizing measure. But somehow Israel invading South Lebanon because of repeated attacks from there isn't.

Second, Syria invaded Lebanon in 1976. The Lebanese civil war ended in 1989. They continued to occupy Lebanon until 2005. Sure doesn't sound like they were there to make peace.

And claiming Lebanon was a much better place in 2005 than 1976 is another joke. What Syria left behind was the exact same country of factional militias and continual fighting. Take a look at Lebanon's recent history and it isn't much different than the violence leading up to 1976. The only difference now is that Syria has helped hezbollah get too strong for any of the other factions or even the legitimate Lebanese government to act against them.

Now claiming Israel's war with Lebanon is worse that Assad is another of your fucked up statements. Assad (and his dad and brother) has killed hundreds of thousands.
4.4 million Lebanese disagree with you
 

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The took down 2 40 story towers.. so as usual you are full of horseshit.

Here is some footage of the aftermath of your so called limited strikes:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29074260

showing once again you are full of HORSESHIT!!!
The only horseshit around here is from you, spewing accusations and demanding to be proved wrong.

Meanwhile the number of civilian casualties is spectacularly low given the length and scale of the conflict, a fact you simply cannot dispute, so instead of disputing the actual numbers you throw up misrepresented anecdotes where you don't even have all the facts.
 

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Most sane people now know the Iraqi war was based on a pack of lies. So I see you still support it. Make it pretty clear what you are all about.
There was nothing unjust about invading Iraq and toppling Saddam. He was a brutal dictator and he needed to go. Things went pretty well until Bremmer implemented his stupid debaathification policy, which essentially fed the insurgency, which they then failed to deal with effectively.

But there was nothing unjust about rolling over Saddam, the only mistake there was not doing it ten years earlier.
 

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The difference is we provide support for Israel endlessly, we are the ones should criticize Israel as we place our image as a global peacekeeping process across the globe
We provide endless support for Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc, etc, what's your point? Given the hundreds of millions the Americans pump into the PA shouldn't they be entitled to tell the Palestinians to quit their terrorism?

You are clueless.
 

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We provide endless support for Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc, etc, what's your point? Given the hundreds of millions the Americans pump into the PA shouldn't they be entitled to tell the Palestinians to quit their terrorism?

You are clueless.
point is if we are providing unwavering support for Israel and we have serious oversight into what they are doing it will hurt our international image.
 

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There was nothing unjust about invading Iraq and toppling Saddam. He was a brutal dictator and he needed to go. Things went pretty well until Bremmer implemented his stupid debaathification policy, which essentially fed the insurgency, which they then failed to deal with effectively.

But there was nothing unjust about rolling over Saddam, the only mistake there was not doing it ten years earlier.
You are crazier then anybody else on this board. Nobody would believe the Iraq war was just Not even the soldiers that pay their lives into fighting it. Get out of that hole you gook
 

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You are crazier then anybody else on this board. Nobody would believe the Iraq war was just Not even the soldiers that pay their lives into fighting it. Get out of that hole you gook
Of course you support brutal dictators and think it is awful when they are ousted. No one is surprised.

Saddam repeatedly invaded his neighbors, slaughtered his own people, and did pretty much every other thing that justifies invasion.
 

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The only horseshit around here is from you, spewing accusations and demanding to be proved wrong.

Meanwhile the number of civilian casualties is spectacularly low given the length and scale of the conflict, a fact you simply cannot dispute, so instead of disputing the actual numbers you throw up misrepresented anecdotes where you don't even have all the facts.
Its not only about the dead, or injured, but the level of destruction. If you want it to be based on just the casualties, then you can say Hamas has been very good at achieving its goal of disrupting Israel with barely ANY casualties.

Of course we can count on rational people like the Pentagon to prove once again that Fuji is just a spewer of HORSESHIT!!

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/pent...ilitary-after-releasing-more-weapons-1.296273
 

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Of course you support brutal dictators and think it is awful when they are ousted. No one is surprised.

Saddam repeatedly invaded his neighbors, slaughtered his own people, and did pretty much every other thing that justifies invasion.
So I wonder when the US will be invading Israel... lol

Lets see -
Torturing people - check
Displacing citizens - check
Political prisoners - check
WMD - check
Bombing and killing people after they were driven into refugee status - check
chemical weapons - check....
Attacking other sovereign countries without Security Council approval - Check
Assassinating foreigners - check
Terror bombings in foreign countries - check.

what have I left out?
 

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Its not only about the dead, or injured, but the level of destruction. If you want it to be based on just the casualties, then you can say Hamas has been very good at achieving its goal of disrupting Israel with barely ANY casualties. ...
From the guy who said Hamas terror was so bad it forced Israel out of Gaza.
 

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4.4 million Lebanese disagree with you
And which of the above do they disagree with? Do 4.4 million deny that Syria occupied Lebanon from 1976 to 2005?


Actually millions of Lebanese took to the streets to protest Syria's occupation of Lebanon and millions of Lebanese object to Hezbollah pretending they are the Lebanese army.
 

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So I wonder ...
You are a pretty entertaining guy. You have this amazing ability to avoid your own arguments when they embarrass you and then move on to more idiocy.

Fact is that Hezbollah violated Lebanese and Israeli sovereignty in their attack.

Fact is that Assad has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people before IS was even heard of.
 

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And which of the above do they disagree with? Do 4.4 million deny that Syria occupied Lebanon from 1976 to 2005?


Actually millions of Lebanese took to the streets to protest Syria's occupation of Lebanon and millions of Lebanese object to Hezbollah pretending they are the Lebanese army.
millions of Lebanese felt threatened by Israel not Hezbollah That's what I was pointing out.

And there's no indication that Lebanese livelihood are wrost then k1976 as GDP and exports have grown significantly over the past decades
 

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Of course you support brutal dictators and think it is awful when they are ousted. No one is surprised.

Saddam repeatedly invaded his neighbors, slaughtered his own people, and did pretty much every other thing that justifies invasion.
are you listening to yourself?

If I don't support the war on Iraq than I must be supporting saddam

If I believe war on Iraq was unjust than I must be supporting saddam

you are crazy
 

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Its not only about the dead, or injured, but the level of destruction. If you want it to be based on just the casualties, then you can say Hamas has been very good at achieving its goal of disrupting Israel with barely ANY casualties.

Of course we can count on rational people like the Pentagon to prove once again that Fuji is just a spewer of HORSESHIT!!

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/pent...ilitary-after-releasing-more-weapons-1.296273
No, moron, Hamas has been thwarted by Iron Dome. israel has in fact hit Gaza with a large number of missiles that hit exactly where they were aimed, and the number of civilian deaths has been spectacularly low for a conflict of that size. Compare with any other conflict in the region, or really any other comparable modern conflict. None have had that low a casualty rate.

The only way that happens is if the Israelis are being careful to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties, directly proving wrong your HORSESHIT about Israel showing reckless disregard for civilians. On the contrary, IDF has indeed pioneered methods of warfare the limit civilian harm.
 

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So I wonder when the US will be invading Israel... lol

Lets see -
Torturing people - check
Displacing citizens - check
Political prisoners - check
WMD - check
Bombing and killing people after they were driven into refugee status - check
chemical weapons - check....
Attacking other sovereign countries without Security Council approval - Check
Assassinating foreigners - check
Terror bombings in foreign countries - check.

what have I left out?
You are full of HORSESHIT. Israel has not tortured anyone, has not displaced any citizens, has not violated any WMD treaties, has not targeted civilians or refugees, has not used chemical weapons, has not started ANY wars, and has not engaged in any terrorist activities. Hurling out a long string of made up HORSESHIT, none of which you can substantiate, is fucking pathetic.

And no don't throw out a bunch of half baked nonsense and exaggeration -- that will just prove how pathetic you are.
 

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are you listening to yourself?

If I don't support the war on Iraq than I must be supporting saddam

If I believe war on Iraq was unjust than I must be supporting saddam

you are crazy
I stand by it. You have a long track record on terb of supporting brutal dictators, hating democracy, and generally being anti-Western. I didn't base my comment on your one post here alone, but on your whole posting history. We all know exactly where your sympathies lie: with terrorists, dictators, and anyone else who hates democracy. I'm happy to produce a long list of quotes from your various posts that shows that.

So, really, nobody is surprised that you think it was awful Saddam Hussein was ousted.
 
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