Don't you get it? Since historians all have a bias, notty is justified in making up his own history as it suits him.
More Israeli douchbaggery....
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No it does not. If you were to say to me, the Jews were peaceful and attacked and wiped out.. I would say "that was terrible" But of you were to say the Jews were raising funds to in order to establish their homeland as per the Balfour agreement, which the Arabs vehemently opposed, I would say, what were the funds for....maybe to raise and army and take the territory by force? At which point I would question if the Arab violence may have been a preemptive strike. Which we all know Israel has conducted many, many times. Can I say for certain this is what happened? Of course not. Can you say for certain that this is false, of course not.. so as you see, the devil is in the details.
I don't make anything up, just point out where details may have been glossed over for dramatic effect or where details are missing. Sure there has been violence against jews, but there has been violence against just about every ethnic group or religion in history. What about the Holocaust? What about it? What about the Armenian massacre, the liquidation of the Kulaks, the cultural revolution, the killing fields, Rawanda , the Irish Potato famine etc etc...did you know 4M Indonesian civilians died in WWII at the hands of the Japanese?
You and your ilk should just man up and admit what you are. Embrace it. Come out of the closet. You will feel better.
You keep denying and spinning like cowards.
As usual your whole argument comes down to conspiracy theories. Do you have any historians who say that Jews weren't attacked in the middle East because they were Jews or by ignoring it are you just hoping that Hamas is actually a kind-hearted group based on the principles of equality and human rights?
And if you want what-abouts, do you have any comment on Hamas and Fatah both praising attacks on Jewish civilians in the past month?
Nice try. You said the attacks never happened at all.
The attacks did happen and they occurred more than a quarter of a century before the state of Israel was created.
Regardless of the motives (and I have seen nothing supporting your theories), the attacks occurred -- which proves that Arab attacks on Israelis were something that had been happening well before the state of Israel was created. You were wrong.
A simple way to eradicate Hamas would be asking the PA to use force against hamas in Gaza. As we all know israel is not too kind to civilians when they are dealing with Hamas, the PA will more than likey look out for their own kind.
There are much better debaters than I, here. I will leave it to them to make you look like fools in almost every single debate. That does not mean that I am not able to observe the debates and form my opinions.
Just the same as anyone else who watches a debate on TV and forms opinions of who is right and wrong. You don't have to be part of the debate to know who is honest, who presents their case better, who answers questions directly, etc.
Which gets us back to why none of the terrorist-loving scum are man enough or have enough conviction in their beliefs to answer basketcase's simple question of what is your opinion on the killing of four old Jewish men praying.
Your perspective is so laughable, it's pathetic.
You call this stuff debating?....name calling, starting pissfests from simple discussions, ridiculing?
No bias on your part, huh?
Do you realize how many times these questions have been answered, how many times the other side has acknowledged the injustice on BOTH sides?
No...you don't....you are so blinded by self interest , all you do is hate and ridicule anything that doesn't conform to your narrow, self-serving views.
You're understanding of honesty, and good debating , and direct answers is based strictly on what you want to be true.
FYI, in the name of honest debating, your post doesn't belong in this thread, it belongs in that other thread.....
....you know, the one in which you avoided responding to me?
You see hack, THAT is irony.
it is a crime.....but nothing like the state sponsored crime Israel conducted killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children this past summer. Just another incident cycle of hate that is being perpetuated by Israeli policies. I am sure the child Israel chose to take revenge against will return full of hate to kill more jews when he is off age. Just sowing seeds for future horrors.
Its funny how even though all the pro Israeli crowd is determined to believe that the Arabs have always been consumed with hatred for jews, non of them chose to answer the simplest of questions... WHY DID THEY FORM ISRAEL THERE? Seriously, how many people would chose to go live in a neighborhood where they are hated?
Why is the violence against Jews so special, I have acknowledged it does occur. So tell me, why is a massacre of Jews more noteworthy then the massacre of other people? What about the Russians that were killed by the Nazis? The millions of Gypsies? Are they less important? Why do we not hear about them? Frankly I am just sick of hearing about it. If I was a Pali I would do the exact same thing they are doing. If your family was wiped out by an Israeli bomb, would you just turn the other cheek and go "oh well its a shame they were unlucky"? People who deny the roots of this hatred are the cowards. I have said many time that trust into those terrible circumstances I would be a"terrorist". I don't really see how I would have much choice really. I don't see how Israel could possibly want peace based on its actions, and frankly most of the worlds population is more in tune with my view then yours and the other pro Israelis. So whatever.
If you knew anything about religious history, you'd know that it is their Holy Land.
It's EVERYONES Holy land....everyone has fought over it for centenaries. ... perhaps if you looked beyond Jewish history you'd know that.
So what? It was a small population only 59,000 jews there in 1914. I guess you plan to return your property to the Native Americans.. when can we expect that?
Please show me where I said they should know better.....another lie. All I said is Israeli policies promote the cycle of violence. These people were killed in a random act of violence, not really possible for them to know better other then they were in a dangerous place. On that point, they have a choice to move somewhere else, the people in Gaza do not have such a choice.
Jews were targeted but so was every non-muslim. As for the details of the purchases. I assume the Jews purchased the land from the Arab elites, but I would bet there were poorer arabs living on that land and when the Jews showed up and forced them of their newly purchased land, violence erupted... so once again the details are glossed over. You think some subsistence farmer is gonna just accept that his land owner sold his property out from under him even if his family has tended the land for 5 generations and accept being thrown out on the street? Shows your level of retardation.
Santa's gonna give you a big present this year. Make sure you clean your chimney otherwise it might get your present dirty.
