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Of course, you don't need me to tell you that there is debate about your characterization of that event.

No matter. It does nothing to change the fact that there is nothing improper about Israel revoking the widow's residency.
I guess so long as it is not you getting the short end of the straw then it seems reasonable to you, however in a democracy like Israel claims to be, collective punishment is not reasonable.
 

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Apparently, as far as you "can tell" doesn't extend to reading the Hamas charter or listening to the Hamas leadership.

Hamas has been quite clear that it hates the Jews for being Jewish. In this debate, it's important to understand Hamas' motivations.
No like every war it is about resources, the Israelis kill and die for resources just like the Arabs. Before Israel was formed, you did not get arabs wanting to wipe out jews. Just the usual conflicts tribal conflicts. Nothing special about this war, just 2 groups fighting over a patch of dirt like all wars.
 

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Of course, you don't need me to tell you that there is debate about your characterization of that event.

No matter. It does nothing to change the fact that there is nothing improper about Israel revoking the widow's residency.
So if someone husband does something bad they should go to jail? Show me one credible country that does that.....maybe I should say also with a percapita GDP more then 2 goats and a cow.
 

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I guess so long as it is not you getting the short end of the straw then it seems reasonable to you, however in a democracy like Israel claims to be, collective punishment is not reasonable.
"Punishment"?

According to you and Gryfin and others, she wouldn't want residency in a place as horrible as Israel. How is it "punishment" to give her what she wants?
 

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Before Israel was formed, you did not get arabs wanting to wipe out jews.
The world's oldest hatred only goes back to 1949? I think you're wrong about that.

Hamas is quite clear that it hates the Jews for being Jewish. If this were truly about boundary disputes and resources, the Palestinians would have focused on creating prosperity in Gaza when the occupation ended in 2005.

Instead, the opportunity was squandered and all of the resources went toward the killing of Jews.
 

nottyboi

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Hamas is quite clear that it hates the Jews for being Jewish. If this were truly about boundary disputes and resources, the Palestinians would have focused on creating prosperity in Gaza when the occupation ended in 2005.
Ok now you have confirmed you are a moron. Please show me one country that has managed to create wealth with a blockade in place and no access to ports, statehood, passports, airport. Why don't you try and create "wealth" without every leaving your house or buying anything? ...RETARDED!!!!

Oh and by the way the hatred of the Jews in the middle east goes back thousands of years, because they were very warlike and were finally crushed by the Roman empire and dispersed and sold as slaves etc. This was done by a European empire. BTW. The Arabs like any people, tend to dislike a minority that is in their midst. I dunno why you would fixate on the Arab dislike of jews, they don't like Christians either...or anyone else. Same as the Japanese. All bigots, most people have a degree of racism or bigotry in them. Jews do as well.
 

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Ok now you have confirmed you are a moron. Please show me one country that has managed to create wealth with a blockade in place and no access to ports, statehood, passports, airport. Why don't you try and create "wealth" without every leaving your house or buying anything? ...RETARDED!!!!
Actually, what I have confirmed is that you don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps you should stick to topics where you have some familiarity with the subject matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...fd2b48-1d83-11e4-82f9-2cd6fa8da5c4_story.html

Furthermore, if you want examples of countries that were able to succeed under more trying circumstances than the Palestinians faced, you might want to read this column by Tarek Fatah:

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/22/stop-the-jew-hatred-and-build-palestine
 

Moviefan-2

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I dunno why you would fixate on the Arab dislike of jews, they don't like Christians either...or anyone else. Same as the Japanese. All bigots, most people have a degree of racism or bigotry in them. Jews do as well.
Because it's important to understand the problem.

Many Hamas-lovers seem to think that Palestinian statehood would somehow end the conflict. They're missing the point. Palestinian statehood won't make the Jews any less Jewish. Indeed, under the current circumstances, statehood would likely give the terrorists more opportunities to wage war, and would likely lead to greater misery and more deaths among Palestinians.

To build on something that Basketcase said the other day, I don't have any issue with some Palestinians' Jew-hatred if they keep it to themselves. It's the ones who use their pathological hatred of Jews as a justification for terrorism that are the problem.

Israel has a right -- a duty, in fact -- to defend itself from Jew-hating terrorists. The Jew-hating terrorism must be addressed.
 

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They don't really hate jews because they are jews as far as I can tell.....
So in his justifications for Jew hatred, notty chooses to ignore the precise words out of the mouths of Hamas.


And as moviefan stated, attacks on Jews by Muslims began well before Israel was formed and long before 1967.
 

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If you are the leader of a terrorist group who blows up a British hotel killing 90 civilians, you get elected to become the prime minister of Israel, seems reasonable enough.
Once renouncing terror. Hopefully Hamas will one day run as a completely political party.
 

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Once renouncing terror. Hopefully Hamas will one day run as a completely political party.
That is so convenient. You must be a christian, murdering and then saying empty words gets you off the hook for your actions, that only exists in a fairy tale.
 

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That shows how stupid you are.

We share differEnt views but I clearly indicated that I did not consider you a terrorist.
English is not my first language, if it concerns you, i do apologize.
 

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So in his justifications for Jew hatred, notty chooses to ignore the precise words out of the mouths of Hamas.


And as moviefan stated, attacks on Jews by Muslims began well before Israel was formed and long before 1967.
Earliest timeframe of such attacks?
 

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