Do the girls know?
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This girl was not happy when I left, she was quick to realize the loss of work {money}
Yes their initial reaction was happiness when they learned only the guys would get in trouble. Then when I explained the guys would be scared to come at all and the realization of hit them of their income loss, their smiles turned upside down.
The girl I saw at Perla yesterday was fully aware, and quite nervous about a substantial loss in her income if the law is strictly enforced.
She was the one who brought up the subject, as part of a general conversation about the new Platinum, and how its opening might be affected by problems arising from C-36.
She was the one who brought up the subject, as part of a general conversation about the new Platinum, and how its opening might be affected by problems arising from C-36.
Lets be realistic here especially with mps. The only way
they could find out about this new law. is through thier clients,
unless they are part of our culture here, which there are very few of, and I know that spa management
are keeping thier lips sealed on this. After all, they
don't want to scare them away!!
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Spa owners want everyone to think its business as usual. You think they'd have a staff meeting to explain it, but they don't want the girls to freak out and start informing the many customers who don't even know this bill is coming yet.
The oblivious customers will still keep going after the bill as if nothing happened.
I imagine that we who hang out on review boards are the most well informed, and I would guess that the majority of SP's and clients in Canada still have no idea what's going on.
Most if the girls where I work are at least somewhat aware, though that's largely because the few of us who found out on our own have had conversations about it- one of them was started by this sort of a situation, where one of the girls was told by her client who had been seeing her for years that he might not be back much after the law goes in. She came out of the room pretty confused but once we explained it to her she was pretty unhappy about it. Not only the loss of income, but she has a lot of regulars that she's known for years and she was genuinely upset at the thought that they would be targeted.
I know my spa's management hasn't said anything about it or if they have plans to change anything to be a harder target. I think most spas are doing the same with their employees.
I'm sure indie sps are the most aware as a group, since they seem most tied in to the discussion here and on other boards. I'd be interested in knowing if agencies are being as quiet with their girls as the spas are- I can imagine the spas trying to just continue on with minimal changes but the law seems like it would more directly affect how agencies operate.
I know my spa's management hasn't said anything about it or if they have plans to change anything to be a harder target. I think most spas are doing the same with their employees.
I'm sure indie sps are the most aware as a group, since they seem most tied in to the discussion here and on other boards. I'd be interested in knowing if agencies are being as quiet with their girls as the spas are- I can imagine the spas trying to just continue on with minimal changes but the law seems like it would more directly affect how agencies operate.
I think this is right on. Indie SPs are the SPs most directly affected by this, in the sense that they are sole proprietors responsible for their business. In the same way that agencies and spas will need to think about how this affects their incall, advertising, communication, etc., indies need to think of all these things as well. In my experience, many of the SPs who work at agencies, etc., do so because they don't want to deal with all of the business end of things & aren't as well informed about laws, etc., because they aren't required to be. It's similar to the difference between being an employee and a business owner because, well, that's pretty much what the deal is. In my experience, there isn't a lot of communication within an agency anyhow... no staff meetings or anything, just the business of getting calls & getting SPs to them. That said, I do know that some agencies are run differently and that certain agencies seem to represent women who are much more informed and involved in the politics of SP life...
Reason why I'm asking is, I was recently with an ex agency Lady and to tell the truth she hardly had a clue. With that said I
would not call this woman unintellegent ! It was never brought up when she was working there. But I did explain to her, what it was all about.
As is understand the situation to be, at this time it is not against the law to buy o sell sex. It is against the law to communicate for the purpose of prostitution. If C-36 is implemented as proposed then it will be against the law to buy sex as it is in the Scandinavian countries. The people that saw escorts will stop seeing escorts for fear of being arrested. Massage places will be better off especially the places that do not offer full service. Massage will be legal, reverse body slide will be legal. Everyone will be cautious, activity will crawl to a snails pace, but massage will not be as effected as escort will. I think that the escort $$$s will shift to massage for a while, at least till things defined clearly. The safest way is to go to people and places that you know and they know you.
So if the escort business slows to a crawl and a lot of their customer base starts going to massage, won't the heat then turn onto the MP's with their booming and rapidly expanding business?
Good song, but the lyric I quoted (incorrectly at that) does not appear in Touch Me.
The proper lyric, "The men don't know, but the little girls understand" is from the song "Back Door Man", written and performed by Howlin' Wolf. Also the Doors.
Sorry for being off topic.
Sounds like it's back to the Bra and panties section of the Sears Catalogue for me.If it was good enough then, it's good enough now.....
For the most part, girls don't appear to know as most don't seem to follow the news (and news coverage on this topic is generally quite sparse). With that being said, I spoke about this topic with a very experienced lawyer and his take on it is this:
1) Body Rubs, Strip Clubs, etc will still be allowed to exist and be licensed.
2) Enforcement will be more or less the same as there has not been any increase of federal and provincial funding for this matter
3) MP Owners are actually quite safe from prosecution if they act smart about it. They are selling people a "massage". If they don't counsel or encourage any other activity, just because it takes place doesn't make them liable. The law is worded such that they "knowingly" must profit from directly selling a sexual service. This would probably be a little too indirect (They could be just renting a room for the girls to do whatever they want like a hotel) and the crown would also have to prove they knew how their profits were generated.
4) This leaves the customer being the most vulnerable. Customers will just have to be smart. If the customer goes to the massage parlour and pays $100 as a massage fee to the attendant and never discusses explicitly or implicitly a negotiation for services and a bodyslide just happens; then this is legal (albeit in a grey area). You aren't paying for a sexual service in this case, you are paying for a standard massage and she's jerking you off for free cause she likes you. You can compare this to visiting a legal rmt massage and her initiating the act of jerking you off cause she likes you.
1) Body Rubs, Strip Clubs, etc will still be allowed to exist and be licensed.
2) Enforcement will be more or less the same as there has not been any increase of federal and provincial funding for this matter
3) MP Owners are actually quite safe from prosecution if they act smart about it. They are selling people a "massage". If they don't counsel or encourage any other activity, just because it takes place doesn't make them liable. The law is worded such that they "knowingly" must profit from directly selling a sexual service. This would probably be a little too indirect (They could be just renting a room for the girls to do whatever they want like a hotel) and the crown would also have to prove they knew how their profits were generated.
4) This leaves the customer being the most vulnerable. Customers will just have to be smart. If the customer goes to the massage parlour and pays $100 as a massage fee to the attendant and never discusses explicitly or implicitly a negotiation for services and a bodyslide just happens; then this is legal (albeit in a grey area). You aren't paying for a sexual service in this case, you are paying for a standard massage and she's jerking you off for free cause she likes you. You can compare this to visiting a legal rmt massage and her initiating the act of jerking you off cause she likes you.
