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groggy

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That CNN does its job properly? Absolutely.
I'm glad you think CNN is so excellent.
Then you support calling Feiglin's plans 'concentration camps' as Blitzer did for CNN.

I'm glad you finally agree on that one.
 

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CNN didn't say that, liar, they asked him if the allegation was true and he explained that he was proposing safe havens.

Are you EVER honest?????
 

groggy

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CNN didn't say that, liar, they asked him if the allegation was true and he explained that he was proposing safe havens.

Are you EVER honest?????
Blitzer clearly asked Feiglin if his plan was for concentration camps, and Feiglin could only answer that they were some form of 'paradise camp'.
Now that we've established CNN's credibility, you must accept that labelling Feiglin's plans for paradise camps as 'concentration camps' is legit.

So why are you still supporting this plan for concentration camps?
 

fuji

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Blitzer clearly asked Feiglin if his plan was for concentration camps
Which is not what you said above. You blatantly lied and claimed Blitzer called it concentration camps. Here you admit he was only asking whether Feiglin thought so.

You are caught.
 

groggy

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Blitzer called it concentration camps.
Now that we've established that you accept partial quotes and edited statements as per the MEMRI video, from now on I will use those to clearly edit your statements to reveal their true intent.

In the question, Blitzer clearly identified the plan as for 'concentration camps' and then asked Feiglin to confirm his plans.
 

fuji

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Misquoting me like that just shows your only debating strategy here is blatant lying. You are not interested in the truth at all, you just want to see how far you can get pushing lies.
 

groggy

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Misquoting me like that just shows your only debating strategy here is blatant lying. You are not interested in the truth at all, you just want to see how far you can get pushing lies.
On the contrary, both you and Moviefan have clearly stated that partial quotes or edited statements are fully acceptable, as you have repeatedly claimed.
Your continual support of the MEMRI edited clip as being fair mean that you must also accept this edited statement from you as legit and fair.

Blitzer called it concentration camps.

Personally, I think that the MEMRI clip is dishonest and would rather not use a technique that is dishonest in any manner. But since you and moviefan2 have repeatedly stated that you support partial edits of statements, then all I can do is use the techniques you support to make a case against you.

Or are you willing to accept that the MEMRI edited clip that Hamdan clearly states was edited out of context is unfair and to refrain from using MEMRI or edited statements in the future?

If you cede this point I would gladly stop using partial quotes.
 

Moviefan-2

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On the contrary, both you and Moviefan have clearly stated that partial quotes or edited statements are fully acceptable, as you have repeatedly claimed.
Hamdan's words were not altered or "edited." Nor is there any doubt about the context of his remarks.

Yes, the clip came from what appears to have been a longer interview. But you keep using the word "edited" to imply that the meaning of his words was changed, when you know that isn't true.

Nothing was "out of context." It looked like Hamdan was promoting hatred of Jews for being Jewish because, in fact, he was promoting Jew hatred.

And, I will repeat for the thousandth time, that you have never provided an alternative context.

Since you are now stating that his remarks were "edited out of context" as if it is fact, I challenge you to tell us what the context was that supposedly legitimizes Hamdan's blood libel.

I'm willing to bet money that you'll continue to evade the question.
 

Moviefan-2

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And neither were fuji's when I said this:




According to your rules, that is a fair statement and we can now say that fuji clearly admits that Feiglin's plan called for concentration camps.
As predicted, Groggy completely evaded the question about what context would supposedly legitimize Hamdan's blood libel.
 

Moviefan-2

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I never lied.

Let the record show that fuji said this:



Let the record also show that fuji and moviefan have spent nearly 20 pages defending a plan for concentration camps in Israel.
As predicted, Groggy continues to evade the question about what context would supposedly legitimize Hamdan's blood libel.
 

fuji

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Groggy is just completely unhinged now, blatantly lying now about what I posted. As if people can't see what I wrote. What a fucking sad, pathetic, bitter little clown.
 

groggy

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Groggy is just completely unhinged now, blatantly lying now about what I posted. As if people can't see what I wrote. What a fucking sad, pathetic, bitter little clown.
You most definitely said these words:

Blitzer called it concentration camps.


And according to your MEMRI standards it is now acceptable to quote just those words and therefore prove you think Feiglin's plan was for concentration camps.
Your rules.
 

fuji

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Continue proving to us that you are a lying sack of shit. You lie about EVERYTHING. You are completely unhinged from reality, you spew lies on top of lies and show not even a faint interest in the truth.
 
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gryfin

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Get well soon.
The only trouble for you is that you did say it:

Jews slaughtered Christians in order to use their blood for Passover
No one changed the order or your words at all. These are your exact words. According to you, we don't need to know what was said before or after. We don't need to know any context. As long as you utter these words you are guilty. And you have.

You've got a credibility problem if you want to hang on to your claim that what was said before and after does not matter.
 
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