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SkyRider

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Recently, an elderly smoker on oxygen started a fire in her apartment. This is a very dangerous situation. The oxygen tank could have exploded. The fire could have spread to the other apartments and endangered other residents. Don't know if the smoker who started the fire is still alive.
 

oldjones

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Smokers who can't quit should use concentrating machines, not tanks. Their docs should tell them. If it's the somewhat irrelevant O₂ you're bothered about, tell 'em their pressurized deodorant spray or can of Pam™ will also explode in a fire.

Smokers do have more fires. And that doesn't help them quit.
 

The Options Menu

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I think Shake is right even if he skewed the ratio a bit. But it's mostly mental the same way climbing a mountain is. Once they decided, even handicapped people have done Everest. It was the decision that made the difference.
Yeah-- I'm in agreement with that. The only way to quit is to decide to quit, commit to it, and to not smoke.
 

K Douglas

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My eleven-yr-old daughter spent her own money on a book for me entitled, 'How to Stop Smoking'.

I haven't smoked since that day. I never opened the book.
That pretty well puts it into perspective. Good on you for following her wishes. Your decision likely bought you a few extra years in her life.
 

bigslick

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E-cigarettes. You can get more nicotine out of one hit than an entire cigarette. Nicotine and flavoring can vary from 0mg - 64mg. Good alternative to get your nicotine fix. Studies haven't found any real harm to vaping either. I'd do my research before buying, there's a lot of bad devices out there. Fork up $60-110 for mid range vaping devices and it'll pay off within weeks/months depending how much you smoked.

You can purchase some stealthy looking devices to use in-doors or get one of those cannons for a bigger punch. Bigger battery voltage = more vapor.
 

The Searcher

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E-cigarettes. You can get more nicotine out of one hit than an entire cigarette. Nicotine and flavoring can vary from 0mg - 64mg. Good alternative to get your nicotine fix. Studies haven't found any real harm to vaping either. I'd do my research before buying, there's a lot of bad devices out there. Fork up $60-110 for mid range vaping devices and it'll pay off within weeks/months depending how much you smoked.

You can purchase some stealthy looking devices to use in-doors or get one of those cannons for a bigger punch. Bigger battery voltage = more vapor.
Did you read this?
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarettes-emerge
 

bigslick

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did not read. I stopped smoking/vaping 2 years ago. No studies back then linked any health-risks to vaping to my knowledge.
 

SkyRider

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Regardless of the harms of smoking, you started dating her as a smoker, it seems kind of controlling to be asking (expecting) her to quit. That almost never ends well.
For smokers, it usually ends when:
1) They die prematurely from lung cancer.
2) The oxygen tank explodes.
3) The house burns down.
 

oldjones

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did not read. I stopped smoking/vaping 2 years ago. No studies back then linked any health-risks to vaping to my knowledge.
Even without the tars and products of combustion, nicotine itself is a poison. The fact that it's a physically addictive poison—like arsenic—makes it harder to deal with sensibly. Very few people manage tobacco as a now and then thing, and whatever increases convenience (factory made cigarettes in your shirt pocket) increases the likelihood you'll get hooked.

At least with arsenic there's no pleasure factor.
 

oldjones

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Chewing tobacco killed Tony Gwynn at age 54.

One of the great social changes in the past 30 years is the elimination of smoking in the workplace, bars and restaurants.
Yes. It's hugely changed smoking and health stats without ever really requiring any grand legal move just a whole lot of, "Thank you, but I do mind, please would you smoke that somewhere else". Even smokers say that's helped them cut down.

Agreement is always better than laws.
 

Occasionally

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There's always a chance she'll quit, but all I know is that every person I know who has claimed quitting has not. Sure, it may be reduced, but from "I'm done with smokes", it turns out to be "Well, I still smoke when I drink or only a butt a day... no biggie". Yeah right.

Just like how some overweight people I know hate that they are big, yet claim they work out and eat much better. Yet somehow they still haven't changed in years. "My metabolism is slow". Yeah right. I bet hardly any work out or eat better. And for all the salads and soup they eat for lunch at work, it must get countered with big greasy dinners and midnight snacking which nobody sees except them.
 

queens.law

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I wish this had a "like" option. She's a smoker, don't pressure her to stop. She will when she is ready. Everyone I know has. You can suggest she not smoke when you are on a date, but really, she smokes. At least it isn't something drastic like drugs.
 

oil&gas

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Not sure if I'll give up alcohol though. I love it!

I just went cold turkey this time. Fuck the cigarette industry! Wish I had never picked up this disgusting habit.
Wonder why no one seem to have blamed the beer industry
for alchohol addiction. At least cigarette packages come with
warning messages whereas Molson is not required to label
its product with warning against drunk driving and cirrhosis
of liver.
 

ICEman72

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Any convenience store now, but if your not addicted I highly advise against it. I was like seriously addicted to cigarettes
Every store I go into only has those fake cigarettes, not the actual vaporizers. I AM seriously addicted. I had quit, it took me 6 months to do so, was clean for 6 months then the marriage went down the toilet and I started again due to stress. Poor excuse but it is what it is. I'm slowly getting to the point where I need to make another quitting attempt and I suspect if a were to vape, that would seriously help.
 
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