Why do pooners lie about their reason for hobbying?

[Sophia Sinclair]

Make up your mind.

Do you want to call people shallow based on studies which have overarching trends? Or do you want people to "stop lumping us together"..... which is the opposite of what broad studies and stereotypes reveal?

I'm not calling anyone shallow.

TO's Finest kept saying pretty much all Western women are shallow because we pretty much all have issues with a man's height, or lack thereof, which is a physical attribute. I merely pointed out that men are generally more concerned with physical attributes than women and to play devils advocate posed the question to him, as we weren't talking about anything other than a man's height. I was hoping for an answer from him as my question was directed at him, not you, but hey, you took it and ran with it bringing in other criteria/variables, confounding the height issue. Traditionally men didn't care so much what women made as they were the breadwinners in the family, making it unimportant to them. I bet young couples today both factor in their partners earnings given the rising cost of living, etc. I try very hard to be fair and not make overarching stereotypical statements like, all men overlook me because I have little tits, as I know that just simply isn't true, but yes it does happen both here and in real life. My own brother (adoptive) made fun of me growing up for not having large breasts. Trust me when I say that I know all about being judged on physical attributes, etc.

Honestly, some male members forget that we are women first and providers second. We put up with men judging our looks, body, service, personality, etc. on a daily basis here and have to deal with all that nonsense in the real world as well but you don't see us going on about it unless a guy starts bashing us for doing exactly what they do. The truth is that a lot of men couldn't handle half the scrutiny they put us through and now that women are being more selective, something you yourself admit to doing and rightfully so, especially when looking for a long term partner, we're being called shallow by some men for doing that very same thing. Is it unfair that a guy might pass me over for no other reason than my chest size? Yes! Is it unfair that a woman might pass a guy up for no other reason than his height? Yes! Do we go around calling men in general shallow on the forums? Not that I can see or not as it's been pointed out by some, that is if we want to keep our popularity on here. All I'm asking is that TO's Finest please show us the same courtesy and respect and don't do that here as it's not fair to lump all us Western women together as I for one take great offence to that kind of generalization.

 

[BlueLaser]

I'm not calling anyone shallow.

TO's Finest kept saying pretty much all Western women are shallow because we pretty much all have issues with a man's height, or lack thereof, which is a physical attribute. I merely pointed out that men are generally more concerned with physical attributes than women and to play devils advocate posed the question to him, as we weren't talking about anything other than a man's height. I was hoping for an answer from him as my question was directed at him, not you, but hey, you took it and ran with it bringing in other criteria/variables, confounding the height issue. Traditionally men didn't care so much what women made as they were the breadwinners in the family, making it unimportant to them. I bet young couples today both factor in their partners earnings given the rising cost of living, etc. I try very hard to be fair and not make overarching stereotypical statements like, all men overlook me because I have little tits, as I know that just simply isn't true, but yes it does happen both here and in real life. My own brother (adoptive) made fun of me growing up for not having large breasts. Trust me when I say that I know all about being judged on physical attributes, etc.

Honestly, some male members forget that we are women first and providers second. We put up with men judging our looks, body, service, personality, etc. on a daily basis here and have to deal with all that nonsense in the real world as well but you don't see us going on about it unless a guy starts bashing us for doing exactly what they do. The truth is that a lot of men couldn't handle half the scrutiny they put us through and now that women are being more selective, something you yourself admit to doing and rightfully so, especially when looking for a long term partner, we're being called shallow by some men for doing that very same thing. Is it unfair that a guy might pass me over for no other reason than my chest size? Yes! Is it unfair that a woman might pass a guy up for no other reason than his height? Yes! Do we go around calling men in general shallow on the forums? Not that I can see or not as it's been pointed out by some, that is if we want to keep our popularity on here. All I'm asking is that TO's Finest please show us the same courtesy and respect and don't do that here as it's not fair to lump all us Western women together as I for one take great offence to that kind of generalization.

Your reaction is a healthy one that recognizes that SOME people may not like you for various reasons. TO's Finest's reaction is an unhealthy one that has determined a small subset represents the whole, and has therefore sought out information to justify his opinion. It's a common defense mechanism. I sure worked that way at one point. Sadly, his own thoughts are what holds him back not the reality a and like many people, they long to it like a lifeboat and never end up getting help. Which is too bad, because it wasn't all that hard to correct in my case.

Try not to get offended... You should actually pity him. The "anti" attitude is what cognitive therapy attempts to correct. Many who have either gone through or provide cognitive therapy would like to see it recognized as a form of mental illness, which when you consider the links between negative thoughts like rampant unrealistic generalization and depression, is really not such a stretch.

 

[thirdcup]

Your reaction is a healthy one that recognizes that SOME people may not like you for various reasons. TO's Finest's reaction is an unhealthy one that has determined a small subset represents the whole, and has therefore sought out information to justify his opinion. It's a common defense mechanism. I sure worked that way at one point. Sadly, his own thoughts are what holds him back not the reality a and like many people, they long to it like a lifeboat and never end up getting help. Which is too bad, because it wasn't all that hard to correct in my case.

Try not to get offended... You should actually pity him. The "anti" attitude is what cognitive therapy attempts to correct. Many who have either gone through or provide cognitive therapy would like to see it recognized as a form of mental illness, which when you consider the links between negative thoughts like rampant unrealistic generalization and depression, is really not such a stretch.

Copy that. I know some people who regularly say things that equate to 'I don't do _______ because I tried it once and it always turns into _____. '

Today's lesson: Perception IS reality. The corollary thus becomes 'change someone's perception and you will change their reality.'
Here's a thought. Would everyone continue to worry so much about their appearance if the media stopped telling us we had to?

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

I have not & will not further address this " Height " issue as it is clear there is nothing I could say or any further extensive research study I could give link to THAT would change any opinions here. FURTHERMORE this is ..... OFF TOPIC. The topic posed was ..... WHY do guys LIE about why they hobby. Cheers.

 

[common]

They always give the same reasons:

"I don't want to be tied down."
"I don't want to fake commitment just to get a girl to sleep with me."
"I'm shy and lack confidence."
"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

Just lol. Makes about as much sense as saying you pay your mechanic to leave. The real reason men pay (in the vast majority of cases)... *drum roll*... we can't get hot girls for free. In fact, most of us can't even get semi-cute ones. And what's wrong with that? A woman's choice of man is not a reflection on the self-worth of the man, nor on the men she did not choose. Just their faces.

My attitude when I first got into this hobby: "Wait, so the pretty boy with the narrow eyes, small nose, and flat profile gets to fuck 6's and above, while I'm stuck with 3's and below? His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure, while I'm stuck on the sidelines? Just because of some trivial facial dimensions? That's bullshit. I'm taking ownership of my sex life". And that's why I pay.

I think someone open the thread to inflate their ego or justify their inadequacies . There is no specific general reason why men hobby, heck Hank Baskett cheated on Kendra Wilkinson with a tranny. Hugh Grant cheated on Elizabeth Hurley with a street walker.

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

..... AND DON'T forget ...... one of my favorites ........ Charlie Sheen did some High Class Hobbying!! :thumb:

 

[legmann]

..... AND DON'T forget ...... one of my favorites ........ Charlie Sheen did some High Class Hobbying!! :thumb:

Yes, that is one of my favourites -he certainly helped make it 'mainstream'.

 

[Czar]

When out in public with girlfriends who have bigger boobs than me, fake or otherwise, I've been overlooked countless times but don't stress over it and sure as hell am not going to run out and get a boob job to try and attract more men to me.

I took a look at your pictures for an analysis. Having done this for a long time and seen countless sets of the subject at hand, I have come to some conclusions. Keeping in mind that beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder as proven by this profession, I think your being overlooked is probably due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

My analysis is that usually, but not always, big naturals are frequently not very attractive due to the effects of gravity even at a young age. While they have a wow factor when seen in clothing due to high hopes and anticipation, once exposed, they are a disappointment. And if this is not the case at the present time, it will be in the future. I have been fortunate enough to experience some remarkable exceptions but it is unfortunately rare. A large set of fake(not too large) can be great entertainment of course but for many professionals who will be taking their future spouse to many get-togethers, it may not be something they really want for the civilian world.

Personally, I find the petite girls with the relatively small natural b-cups to have the nicest boobs. Great shape and probable a much better future until they finally succumb to the inevitable effects of aging.

I have discovered that no matter which set we are talking about, you never know what you will get until you see them, but the small naturals have a much nicer chance of being attractive. Based on size alone, you should be happy with what you have but it won't help with the fact that you are being overlooked due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

I took a look at your pictures for an analysis. Having done this for a long time and seen countless sets of the subject at hand, I have come to some conclusions. Keeping in mind that beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder as proven by this profession, I think your being overlooked is probably due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

My analysis is that usually, but not always, big naturals are frequently not very attractive due to the effects of gravity even at a young age. While they have a wow factor when seen in clothing due to high hopes and anticipation, once exposed, they are a disappointment. And if this is not the case at the present time, it will be in the future. I have been fortunate enough to experience some remarkable exceptions but it is unfortunately rare. A large set of fake(not too large) can be great entertainment of course but for many professionals who will be taking their future spouse to many get-togethers, it may not be something they really want for the civilian world.

Personally, I find the petite girls with the relatively small natural b-cups to have the nicest boobs. Great shape and probable a much better future until they finally succumb to the inevitable effects of aging.

I have discovered that no matter which set we are talking about, you never know what you will get until you see them, but the small naturals have a much nicer chance of being attractive. Based on size alone, you should be happy with what you have but it won't help with the fact that you are being overlooked due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

Czar, you appear to be a true connoisseur of the female breast. Kudos to you sir and keep up the diligent work!

 

[jiiimmm]

I took a look at your pictures for an analysis. Having done this for a long time and seen countless sets of the subject at hand, I have come to some conclusions. Keeping in mind that beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder as proven by this profession, I think your being overlooked is probably due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

My analysis is that usually, but not always, big naturals are frequently not very attractive due to the effects of gravity even at a young age. While they have a wow factor when seen in clothing due to high hopes and anticipation, once exposed, they are a disappointment. And if this is not the case at the present time, it will be in the future. I have been fortunate enough to experience some remarkable exceptions but it is unfortunately rare. A large set of fake(not too large) can be great entertainment of course but for many professionals who will be taking their future spouse to many get-togethers, it may not be something they really want for the civilian world.

Personally, I find the petite girls with the relatively small natural b-cups to have the nicest boobs. Great shape and probable a much better future until they finally succumb to the inevitable effects of aging.

I have discovered that no matter which set we are talking about, you never know what you will get until you see them, but the small naturals have a much nicer chance of being attractive. Based on size alone, you should be happy with what you have but it won't help with the fact that you are being overlooked due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

+1, well said!

 

[thirdcup]

Speaking of breasts, I like slow dancing. And for that reason, I like women who have their breasts on their back.

 

[Viggo Rasmussen]

Slow dancing is when guys less than 5 feet tall are the luckiest!

:thumb:

 

[thirdcup]

Slow dancing is when guys less than 5 feet tall are the luckiest!

:thumb:

Mickey Rooney knew it. "Who wants to be tall?"

 

[Czar]

Czar, you appear to be a true connoisseur of the female breast. Kudos to you sir and keep up the diligent work!

I was proven correct again this morning with a new petite young thing aged 20. She was typical in wishing she had something larger for what are in fact perfectly shaped, matched very well to the rest of her body, and are no doubt very comfortable to wear around every day. While standing or sitting up, they were beautifully shaped. While lying on her back, they are quite small but still there. I showed her that a guy can do the same things with a set of B-cups as what she assumed could only be done with the larger sizes. It was quite enjoyable as usual.

 

[livestrong2000]

I don't silver coat it or feel I justify it. I'm an average guy, older, overweight, good sense of humour and (I'm told, and not by ingratiating SPs) pretty talented in the sack.
1/ My wife's interest in sex is seasonal at best and I've been through the "don't want to divorce because of the kids/parents/etc." phase. Now I'm at the "don't want to end up with half my stuff,pension and paying alimony phase" and figure at some point I'll be old, frail or have a stroke or something and it would be nice to have someone hold my hand, wipe my ass, or care that I died.
2/ I've had a number of great affairs and NSA relationships but somehow someone always finds themselves emotionally overinvested and that will either lead to divorce and a shakey remarriage (of two cheaters) or exposure and divorce conditions (see above).
3/ Paying an MPA or SP is a simple, emotionally clean and legal transaction that provides variety of personality, race, body type and sex act; increased intensity/fun.
4/ Sometimes I'm just angry at my wife for her loss of sex drive/passion and it is sweet revenge to have wild monkey sex with someone else under her nose!
That's it!

+1 well said!

 

[elise]

+1 well said!

+2, ronzodd - Exactly where I'm at.

 

[DanJ]

I took a look at your pictures for an analysis. Having done this for a long time and seen countless sets of the subject at hand, I have come to some conclusions. Keeping in mind that beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder as proven by this profession, I think your being overlooked is probably due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

My analysis is that usually, but not always, big naturals are frequently not very attractive due to the effects of gravity even at a young age. While they have a wow factor when seen in clothing due to high hopes and anticipation, once exposed, they are a disappointment. And if this is not the case at the present time, it will be in the future. I have been fortunate enough to experience some remarkable exceptions but it is unfortunately rare. A large set of fake(not too large) can be great entertainment of course but for many professionals who will be taking their future spouse to many get-togethers, it may not be something they really want for the civilian world.

Personally, I find the petite girls with the relatively small natural b-cups to have the nicest boobs. Great shape and probable a much better future until they finally succumb to the inevitable effects of aging.

I have discovered that no matter which set we are talking about, you never know what you will get until you see them, but the small naturals have a much nicer chance of being attractive. Based on size alone, you should be happy with what you have but it won't help with the fact that you are being overlooked due to the inexperience of the overlookers.

I've got a female friend I need to show this post to. She has 36B and is one of the prettiest ladies I've ever laid eyes on (let alone laid, period lol). But she is also almost 6 feet tall and feels out of proportion. She was saying she hopes to have an enhancement done this summer. What are you supposed to say? I'm trying to be the supportive friend and tell her how beautiful she is and that if she wants to do it, to do it because she wants to, not because some guy(s) might have made her feel she needs to.

 

[rex_baner]

I had no idea people lied about why they do it.

I assumed we all have our own desires and fantasies and they are a lot easier to fulfill with escorts.

 

[bubble pop]

discussing jaw angles.

I just lol at this... Those poor guys.

 

[legmann]

I assumed we all have our own desires and fantasies and they are a lot easier to fulfill with escorts.

Bingo. I tried saying that about six pages but the kiddies were too busy arguing over other matters.

The reason really is as simple as that.