No, the lady you're going to see will be grateful if you don't. Plus, the legislation has not been passed into law.I have an appointment today. Should I cancel?
No, the lady you're going to see will be grateful if you don't. Plus, the legislation has not been passed into law.I have an appointment today. Should I cancel?
Law hasn't been passed yet. Do it while you still can.I have an appointment today. Should I cancel?
I was thinking occasional outcalls with selected indies would work and then I thought that there's a potential for blackmail there because after all, the client is now the one breaking the law, not the seller. So there went that idea.The bill has not been passed into law.
Go forth and fornicate young man. Your days of care-free fornication are coming to an end.
Doesn't matter if porn becomes illegal or not under this law. The big question is the enforcement of the law. If they turn a blind eye towards it it isn't an issue. If they try to charge someone it becomes an issue.Yes, according to Ms. Nikki Thomas porn is now illegal as well.
https://twitter.com/MsNikkiThomas/status/474284726383939584 https://twitter.com/MsNikkiThomas/status/474285837010886656
You can follow her on Twitter, or just read her stream https://twitter.com/MsNikkiThomas
brazzers is Canadian owned and they are huge.Not saying I'm happy about it, but to point out an important difference TERB is Canadian, Xhamster is not.
There goes my hobby phone….Snip...
They will need to come up with a hell of a secure means of communication that simply cannot be traced. (And no, the 7-11 cell phone would not be untraceable.)
s. 213 is about communicating in public, not advertising. Unless you are referring to something else.In another clause they say advertising in public is illegal, despite that exemption for advertising your own services.
Doesn't matter if porn becomes illegal or not under this law. The big question is the enforcement of the law. If they turn a blind eye towards it it isn't an issue. If they try to charge someone it becomes an issue.
There were laws in force before Bedford had them struck down. They were mostly being ignored by law enforcement. Now that they have a new set of tools and its in the public eye again they will want to give the laws a try to see how they fair in court. I don't want to be the sacrificial lamb that gets caught.
http://nationalmagazine.ca/Articles/June-2014/Not-quite-the-Nordic-model.aspxs. 213 is about communicating in public, not advertising. Unless you are referring to something else.
I wish you were wrong but you are not.Good post.
If I had a comment on the pay for sex industry in Canada in the last 10 years, it would be that it has become a LOT more mainstream and out in the open. (Which is why Ms. Bedford should have just left things well enough alone. I truly blame her naivety for this result. But I digress.) Paying for sex is far more out in the open than it has ever been in the past. You can see that on TERB, and by the shear numbers of women in the industry and the proliferation of massage parlours, etc. Because the laws were favourable, and the ones that did exist were rarely enforced (the exception may have been street walking), more and more men began to take part in "the hobby". You can see that on TERB.
But things are going to change.
Sure, there will be a hard core group of guys who will role the dice and take their chances because they NEED to hobby.
But the recreational users of the hobby, the guys who have a lot to lose, professionals who cannot chance a criminal record will stop and stop cold. (Or if they do still partake, it will be all the while looking over their shoulders for LE and it won't be a comfortable place to hobby from. We (and I say we because I'm in this category will not enjoy the overall experience because in the back of our heads it will be, "Christ, I hope I don't get busted" and visions of those US cop shows where they set up stings to bust johns will be replaying in our heads as we walk up to whatever location.)
The neuveau hobbiest (the guys who have driven the explosive growth in Canada in the last 10 years) will severely curtail and or eliminate altogether their involvement in pay for play industry. It's never going to disappear, but it is going to get clobbered and with it, the thousands of women who make their living from it.
Once this law is passed, this hobby will go right back to the way it was in 1972 in Canada. Underground, dangerous for all, highly unpredictable and fraught with risk.
Do you mean if you password protect your website you don't think it would be public, or do you mean you already think it's not public? Because as it stands right now, I think the crown would argue it's not private at all and I believe the crown would side with them.I'm talking about this article ... read it I don't think my website is a public place, nor do I think terb is (if you have to log in to access it).... what do you think?
I think that LE will go after the SP industry (Agencies in particular). Stopping porn on the web, even if they really wanted too, isn't high on their list and it would be too costly with no valuable publicity (and probably not possible). Nobody challenged the federal law on porn they challenged it on prostitution and thats what they hit back at. You can't easily challenge a law if nobody has been charged with breaking it.Not to turn this into a partisan discussion, but the conservatives under Harper have been 'vindictive' against those that are not identified as being their 'base'. For this reason, I believe enforcement will be a priority. If for no other reason then to pander further to their right-wing Evangelical supporters. I could be wrong. And I hope I am.
I think that LE will go after the SP industry (Agencies in particular). Stopping porn on the web, even if they really wanted too, isn't high on their list and it would be too costly with no valuable publicity (and probably not possible). Nobody challenged the federal law on porn they challenged it on prostitution and thats what they hit back at. You can't easily challenge a law if nobody has been charged with breaking it.
Maybe porn can be targeted by this bill/law that isn't what it is aimed at. Once SPs and their clients are gone... maybe then they would go after porn, but even the conservatives know that would be too much and they would gain little from it.Agencies are most visible, and would provide the most 'bang for the buck' given there are multiple women working for them. As for porn, any Canadian websites will no doubt be targeted. Sites from outside Canada could be blocked quite easily. Are you familiar with Turkey and how they blocked Twitter during the recent uprising? The government has decided that the internet needs to be monitored and censored, and sadly, they have the tools to do so. Not quite what Tim Berners-Lee had in mind when he developed it!
Maybe porn can be targeted by this bill/law that isn't what it is aimed at. Once SPs and their clients are gone... maybe then they would go after porn, but even the conservatives know that would be too much and they would gain little from it.
I was just repeating what Nikki Thomas had posted yesterday on Twitter. To be honest, I haven't read the entire bill.I have an 18+ disclaimer on the home page, but I could password protect it.
I don't think their intention is to ban all porn, it's about images, videos etc that are used for advertising.
Plenty of porn on the internet has nothing to do with prostitution.
Indy's can still have a web site and provide what they do. It is just 3rd parties can't like a pimp or an agency.No, unless they a find a way to have a website to advertise companionship or dating services without the "BBBJ, PSE, CIM". They can't advertise selling sexual services on a website but there are ways around that.
Is back page considered public for advertising ?Justin is good like that, he likes to chat. I too am on Twitter.
If Fred were to lock the entire board down, perhaps it would be considered private. But as it stands right now, it is open to public view.