Bill C-36 tabled (New Prostitution Law)

[kbiii2]

This will be the most repressive postitution law in the western world. For a country that prides itself on individual freedom
and letting people "do their own thing", even more so than the US, the propose legislation is unbelievable. The government
is treating citizens like they do in places like China, Russia or the Congo.

Even in the US, the sex industry is pretty much ignored as long as it isn't too obvious and keeps a low profile. There are
literally hundreds of professional independents in most states and thousands in some; as well as thousands of massage parlors,
even in small towns, providing everything from straight massage, to HJ's to full service (particularly in Korean parlors) available
to anyone. There are occasional stings particular against agencies and, of course, street walkers. Most people don't care and
the fines and punishment are generally not significant unless real crime is involved.

Headlines: FORMER LIBERAL CANADA REVERSES COURSE AND MARCHES DOWN THE ROAD TO FASCISM AS THE FREE
WORLD WATCHES IN DISBELIEF!

 

[lovelatinas]

This will be the most repressive postitution law in the western world. For a country that prides itself on individual freedom and letting people
"do their own thing", even more so than the US, the propose legislation is unbelievable. The government is treating citizens like they do in places
like China, Russia or the Congo.

Even in the US, prostitution is pretty much ignored as long as it isn't too obvious and keeps a low profile. There are literally thousands of
professional independents, particularly in states like Texas and Florida, etc. and thousands of massage parlors even in small towns with everything
from straight massage, HJ's to full service (particularly in Korean parlors) available to anyone. There are occasional stings particular against
agencies and, of course, street walkers. Most people don't care and the fines and punishment are generally not significant along as other crime
is not involved.

Headlines: FORMER LIBERAL CANADA REVERSES COURSE AND MARCHES DOWN THE ROAD TO FASCISM AS THE FREE WORLD WATCHES
IN DISBELIEF!

This what we get with conservatives. Those on the this board who voted conservative they just fucked you over. Are still voting for them in 2015?

 

[Nemesis_2007]

I think a majority jumped the gun and expected a new law that would have more favorable terms for the sex workers. Instead, the Government was only required to change current laws, not necessarily change them for the benefit of sex workers.

I'm curious what this will mean to escort agencies. With selling sexual services and benefiting from the sex workers now being made illegal, can agencies simply put a huge disclaimer stating that they sell companionship services and delete all sexual acronyms and evade getting raided?

If independent escorts are still permitted, how do they get customers if buying sex is illegal now? It's kind of like the cops saying it's OK for you to open a Marijuana store but any customer who walks through your doors will be arrested.

 

[lovelatinas]

Here is another way around it. A SP advertises as a model and her modelling rates are $75 to $250/hr, you take some 10-25 photos of her and she like the photos so much and thinks your a hot photographer, she lets you have sex with her for free. On the website they use code word "Romantic style photography" as way to indicate sex. Escorts will have to show there face, otherwise blurred faces would be too obvious that they are escorts.

 

[bubble pop]

I'm curious what this will mean to escort agencies. With selling sexual services and benefiting from the sex workers now being made illegal, can agencies simply put a huge disclaimer stating that they sell companionship services and delete all sexual acronyms and evade getting raided?

No, laws are applied by intelligent people.

If independent escorts are still permitted, how do they get customers if buying sex is illegal now?

They're not supposed to get customers. They're supposed to leave the industry, find Jesus, repent, and pay off their student loans with their part time Tim's shifts.

 

[lovelatinas]

If re-elected, another 4 years of the conservatives we will be seeing pornography being banned. Trust me. First you can't pay to have sex, soon you won't be able to watch porn, free or paid porn.

After that, they may go after abortion and same sex marriage.

Harper is a dictator with his repressive law making. Hope for a minority gov at the very least in the next election.

 

[GPIDEAL]

No, laws are applied by intelligent people.



They're not supposed to get customers. They're supposed to leave the industry, find Jesus, repent, and pay off their student loans with their part time Tim's shifts.

The government said they will set up a $20 million transition fund to assist sex workers. Let's see. Assume 10,000 MPAs, SPs., EDs, etc. apply. That would be $2,000 for each gal to live off while they find a new career or vocation. (Sounds like the Taliban is the ruling party).

 

[GPIDEAL]

If re-elected, another 4 years of the conservatives we will be seeing pornography being banned. Trust me. First you can't pay to have sex, soon you won't be able to watch porn, free or paid porn.

After that, they may go after abortion and same sex marriage.

Harper is a dictator with his repressive law making. Hope for a minority gov at the very least in the next election.

No more porn means you can't even jerk off with excitement. The CONS will make every guy turn blue (from their nuts).

What will happen with swingers clubs?

 

[GPIDEAL]

This what we get with conservatives. Those on the this board who voted conservative they just fucked you over. Are still voting for them in 2015?

With respect latin lover, voting the CONS was better for my standard of living (which indirectly allows me to hobby). We don't vote based on single issues, but perhaps this will be the first time I do.

The Liberals might have done the same thing. Let's see how it's debated in Parliament.

I am pissed though at the CONS.

 

[GPIDEAL]

This a bill made by the Harper government to discredit the Supreme Court of Canada and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This bill will eventually be challenged in the Supreme Court and it will be ruled in violation of the charter. If the Harper government is still in power they will use this as an example of majors changes that have to be made to the Supreme Court. Meanwhile we will all have to decide if we want to be pawns in the game.

On a side note, I do find it somewhat comical that the Conservatives received incredible support on this website previous to the last election. If you voted for them in the last election will you still vote for them despite them trying to abolish your hobby or trade?

I answered this elsewhere. I'm not a single issue advocate, but it's entirely okay to vote on a single issue if you want. Right now, I'm pissed. Fuck the Conservative Taliban Party.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I admire your optimism, and truly hope you are correct.

For me, once this legislation is passed into law I will be retiring.

Unless you have a mistress or a regular that doesn't advertise or works from their home (or can visit your home), IOW, a gal that keeps a low profile, it is still possible to mutually engage.

But as far as venturing out to savor new territory, that would be risky because you never know if it's a sting operation.

Also, LE can monitor busy girls or girls who advertise and are not low key to intercept johns.

 

[james t kirk]

If re-elected, another 4 years of the conservatives we will be seeing pornography being banned. Trust me. First you can't pay to have sex, soon you won't be able to watch porn, free or paid porn.

After that, they may go after abortion and same sex marriage.

Harper is a dictator with his repressive law making. Hope for a minority gov at the very least in the next election.

Slowly but surely. That's how the reform party will do it.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I really can't see them touching the abortion issue.

 

[james t kirk]

I fully expect that once this bill is passed, and make no mistake, it will be passed quickly and in its current form, the reform government will motivate LE to start making examples.

I see TERB as one of the first victims frankly. Hate to say it, but it makes sense. It seems to me that a large portion of this bill is aimed right at Internet advertising and TERB definitely fits that description..

Shutting TERB down will "cut off the head" so to speak. Instead of a like minded group, there will be just silence. We will not be able to communicate.

I'm fully expecting that one day I will try to log on TERB and I will have my login request directed to one of those sites that gives you a set of links to buying vacation packages.

 

[jamestheother]

I fully expect that once this bill is passed, and make no mistake, it will be passed quickly and in its current form, the reform government will motivate LE to start making examples.

I see TERB as one of the first victims frankly. Hate to say it, but it makes sense. It seems to me that a large portion of this bill is aimed right at Internet advertising and TERB definitely fits that description..

Shutting TERB down will "cut off the head" so to speak. Instead of a like minded group, there will be just silence. We will not be able to communicate.

I'm fully expecting that one day I will try to log on TERB and I will have my login request directed to one of those sites that gives you a set of links to buying vacation packages.

Or more likely to surrender to the police as a co-conspirator.

 

[MattRoxx]

MacKay and Harper are such an inconsistent hypocrites. "Most people wanted the gov't to make buying sex illegal, so we increased the penalties. Most people wanted cannabis legalized, so we are not going to do that and instead increased the penalties".

With respect latin lover, voting the CONS was better for my standard of living (which indirectly allows me to hobby). We don't vote based on single issues, but perhaps this will be the first time I do.

The Liberals might have done the same thing. Let's see how it's debated in Parliament.

I am pissed though at the CONS.

And now since you won't be paying for sex, your financial standard of living has improved again. I am so happy for you. But now that I think about it, you say your standard of living has improved but it's been a really long time since one of your mind-bending '2 girls for 3 hours' reviews.


Escort agencies should incorporate as oil companies, then they'll be allowed to do anything they want under the Harper government.

'Toronto Pipeline Agency' will be able to hire temporary foreign workers, have them work in unsafe conditions, not provide overtime or holiday pay, dispose of condoms without regard for the environment, dismiss without cause, set up wherever they want...

 

[MattRoxx]

If you have to be suspicious and calculating and worry about sting operation, then the "GFE" is already over.

And I expect neighbours who see multiple men going into a condo or apartment for 1 hour per day, day in and day out, will start coming forward to complain to police. So it won't only be sting operations, there will be surprise knocks on the door of escorts and agencies. And just because money isn't on the table is not going to help. You don't even know each other's real names, and it's likely that neither of you are named on the lease or are the condo owner.

What reassurances can rippedlover provide that this will not happen.

 

[HappynSmiling]

Those idiots are really pushing for it. They view sex workers as victims They should have seen all the single moms I've seen so far and they should have asked what would they rather do work at McDonalds or see clients. What a bunch of dumb asses!

 

[funliness]

I feel that the industry has gone too far in its indiscretions: advertising openly in mainstream media (now, friggin toronto life, backpage etc.), opening up parlours in very public locations - insensitivity to what kids are able to access is a problem and I believe that the new laws might stop some of this insanity. As for the rest of the proposal, yeah it will hurt but I know that there will be some clever reinvention.

 

[HappynSmiling]

I feel that the industry has gone too far in its indiscretions: advertising openly in mainstream media (now, friggin toronto life, backpage etc.), opening up parlours in very public locations - insensitivity to what kids are able to access is a problem and I believe that the new laws might stop some of this insanity. As for the rest of the proposal, yeah it will hurt but I know that there will be some clever reinvention.

So you allow a "pride" parade with have naked men dressed as women hugging, kissing and imitating sex acts in public for all the kids of the world to see and you don't let a girl advertise her services? That's bs! Besides the ads don't just pop up you have to kook for it. What they are trying to do with the bill is to make this kind of equality: sex worker = victim = exploitation simply because some overly educated, removed from reality bookworms believe that this is so.

What's next restricting access to porn sites? ALL the kids can see it, no age check needed.