Oops Robby did it again!

Boober69

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He lies about things like the amount of money he saved, the tax rate in Toronto, stuff like that. These are basic to being a mayor and not lies about his many personal problems. Whatever the cause, I don't like liars.
Incorrect. The City Financial Officer confirmed this numbers. People are interpreting these numbers in their own way. Doesn't mean he's lying.

And if you are new to politics, they all lie. It's about what they lie about and how it affects you that makes you vote for one vs the other.
 

oldjones

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Guys..We still dont know IF IT INDEED WAS CRACK! It could have been weed, the pipe was not clear. Also crack is for broke people, although dealers sell to anyone with cash. Some People who can afford it, snort cocaine.
Technically both are the same, crack has the connotation of being dirty and impure. If freebasing is done right no baking soda would be left in the product and it would be just as expensive as coke if not slightly more.
Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7009#ixzz30Tpiyc2L
I fixed your post, and added the quote from the first Gooogle hit under the 'difference between freebase and crack'.
 

james t kirk

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As others have correctly pointed out, it's not just the drug abuse and the alcoholism, it's everything else on top of that.

1. Pathological lying

2. Hypocrisy

3. Homophobe


4. Misogyny


5. Never shows up for work.

6. Domestic abuse

7. Football

8. Inability to work with other Councillors


9. Incompetence


The list goes on and on and on and I haven't even touched on his substance abuse. The man is a boor of the highest degree.
 

oldjones

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The lying, denials and excuses are part of the illness.
Councillors went on record as "refusing to work with him" the night he was elected. So it is not his inability alone to get along with the others.
He has not stolen money from taxpayers and in that regard, he is not corrupt.

So if you are big enough to offer sympathy and understand that it's a sickness, don't stop half-way and say "that doesn't excuse his lying...".
No the lying and denials are avoiding the illness. They are still the result of his conscious thought processes. Or are you saying he should have been committed because he doesn't have any? Psycho Boards for everyone seen with a crack pipe? Not Criminally Responsible for drunk drivers? Being a drunk excuses everything, including not stopping being one? Is that what you think? Or do we still get to expect them to be adult and law-abiding and know the consequences of taking that drink? Ford certainly knew, and knew he couldn't handle it, and knew he was refusing help. And we should overlook what such pigheaded stupidity has done to him and our City and cluck, "Wuzza-wozzas, you couldn't help it, you're a drunk"?

Please refer us to your post last May when all his drug-related failings became undeniable and you urged the City to force him into treatment or at least get him off the job to a facility where he could do no harm.

His long record as an obstructive, unco-operative unrepentantly unethical Councillor certainly influenced some Councillors, but in fact the majority tried to make Council work in his early days as Mayor and voted with him. The one who did not try, was Rob. Hiring Don Cherry to call half the elected members Pinkos was an opening gun in his war, not an open hand of co-operation.

Every hour he and his staff spent on the football field was stolen from us taxpayers, as well as the hangover mornings, the days he didn't show up at all and the countless meeting-hours wasted dealing with his obstinate refusal to do right, listen to reason or accept that he too could now and then be wrong. Millions wasted because he was a lying, drug-abusing drunkard, never mind whether he was ever competent as a member of Council or Mayor.

Typhoid Mary was sick, and deserved sympathy in hospital, but while she was denying there was anything wrong, she deserved none. And everyone who informed on her as she fled from police and infected ever more people, deserved approval, praise and gratitude.

As does the Star, and its reporters who have yet to be found at fault in any detail of this sad tale for the fifty-some weeks that Ford and his family denied and lied about every aspect of it. While over and over and over, he continued to choose to do wrong.
 

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The lying, denials and excuses are part of the illness.
Councillors went on record as "refusing to work with him" the night he was elected. So it is not his inability alone to get along with the others.
He has not stolen money from taxpayers and in that regard, he is not corrupt.

So if you are big enough to offer sympathy and understand that it's a sickness, don't stop half-way and say "that doesn't excuse his lying...".
so how much time (money) did he spend on drunken stupors, buying and smoking crack ? i pay for his time by paying taxes... so he wasted time recovering from hangovers and going out to buy drugs?... if this was Olivia CHow the right wouldnt be sympathetic at all... look at how they still critisze her dead husband , for going to massage parlour in the early 80's...and Ford Nation (conservatives) some how pin it on her... fuck Ford, hope he and his crackhead family GTFO of Toronto...
 

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Incorrect. The City Financial Officer confirmed this numbers. People are interpreting these numbers in their own way. Doesn't mean he's lying.

And if you are new to politics, they all lie. It's about what they lie about and how it affects you that makes you vote for one vs the other.
That is false, the number was not confirmed. It is a blatant lie and you have to be financially illiterate to believe it.

You cannot count both user fees being added and user fees being removed both as savings. Neither is a savings at all but if you are going to do dodgy accounting and include them you cannot add them both as savings, one adds and one subtracts!

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...llion_savings_claim_misleading_staff_say.html
 

oldjones

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The billion has been repeatedly shown to be highly exaggerated by numerous people outside and within City Hall, including the City Manager and chief financial officer.

The best Ford can claim is to have raised taxes less than Miller did, and reduced spending compared to him, by a good deal less than a billion.

Ford no longer promises to eliminate the Land Transfer Tax as he did in the last Election.
 

GameBoy27

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I can't wait for our new Mayor "Olivia Chow" to make everything better in this city. :rolleyes:
 

IM469

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Is this the new media now, lets record everyone's private conversations and leak them to the pre$$.

Disgusting!!
In your house is a private conversation - ranting at a public open bar is ... a public conversation. Embarrassing -yes ; Disgusting - only that people stand by this embarrassing loser as a good mayor !
 

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In your house is a private conversation - ranting at a public open bar is ... a public conversation
Yeah sure, tell that to Donald Sterling :biggrin1:
 
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