Toronto Maple Leafs 2013/14 Season

gcostanza

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Raptors won on Friday. Well MLSE won't have problems booking playoff gigs at the ACC. No scheduling conflicts between the Raps and Leafs this April/May.
And tonight in Milwaukee.
 

HOF

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I see it didn't take long for an obnoxious trolling habs fan to crawl out from under a rock.
Not surprised either, it's Les Habs little brother.
Jus sayin' that's all. Remember, I've always said that I admire Leafs fans loyalty and I always liked Daryl Sittler but he should have been a HAB! Okay, I'm out of this thread.
 

ogibowt

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Jus sayin' that's all. Remember, I've always said that I admire Leafs fans loyalty and I always liked Daryl Sittler but he should have been a HAB! Okay, I'm out of this thread.
you are a knob and a troll..........coming back after a long absence, invading the sports section with a mindless post..........
 

ogibowt

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i think what the Leafs needed was a heart transplant , just like the Raptors had, with their big trade...........the Raps play for their coach, play for themselves, and play for each other..........none of those can be applied to the leafs, it seems...last night DeRozen stepped up in the 4th quarter, almost single handidly to win for his team..........did any Leaf, step up in the 3rd period?...
 

saxon

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Kessel the $8 million dollar man has been virtually invisible the last 10 games, if you're going to throw that kind of money at a guy he better show up when it counts.
 

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i think what the Leafs needed was a heart transplant , just like the Raptors had, with their big trade...........the Raps play for their coach, play for themselves, and play for each other..........none of those can be applied to the leafs, it seems...last night DeRozen stepped up in the 4th quarter, almost single handidly to win for his team..........did any Leaf, step up in the 3rd period?...
The only one --- Bernier who was injured! The only reason I rooted for the leafs cause I did think as long as Bernier is healthy that the leafs might have a chance. Now, our hope has gone...

The leafs defense weakness is a long time problem that has to be fixed before the next session. In the history of the team sports, no one has won the championship without the defensive playing and that's the fact.
 

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Kessel the $8 million dollar man has been virtually invisible the last 10 games, if you're going to throw that kind of money at a guy he better show up when it counts.
I have no issue with Kessel but we are paying another guy (yes, he is a forward) $5million to score 5 goals.
 

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i think what the Leafs needed was a heart transplant , just like the Raptors had, with their big trade...........the Raps play for their coach, play for themselves, and play for each other..........none of those can be applied to the leafs, it seems...last night DeRozen stepped up in the 4th quarter, almost single handidly to win for his team..........did any Leaf, step up in the 3rd period?...
The Raptor trade was a salary dump that surprisingly created a team. With the caps situation in the NHL duplicating a trade like that is probably next to impossible.
The Leafs do need a personal shake up, something that will wake them up and get them playing a system as a team. I watched the first period last night and they were lucky to be tied.
Leafs last night did not seem to be aware that it was a must win situation.
 

blackrock13

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Kessel the $8 million dollar man has been virtually invisible the last 10 games, if you're going to throw that kind of money at a guy he better show up when it counts.
What has he done the previous 60+ games? Nothing like key holing stats. He's not the only one who has gone in the dumper the last 10 games. The whole team stunk.
 

Dorian Grey

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If the Leafs can't easily beat teams already eliminated from post season play they absolutely do not deserve to make the playoffs. Nonis needs his ass kicked for his apathetic approach to securing better talent for this team. Injuries are one thing, but the Leafs just have far too many minor leaguers masquerading as NHL pros. Time for Leiweke to really shake the tree and drive some significant change.
 

saxon

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Injuries can't be used as an excuse in this case, look at what Detroit has done the last few weeks with 8 regulars out of the line up.
 

Insidious Von

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There is a difference between the Wings and the Leafs, the former took a full decade to build their talent pool, the Leafs are still building theirs. After it was stripped bare during The Reign of The All Highest it was going to take years to generate strong farm club. The Leafs missing the playoffs this year was not unexpected. The bright side is they may not need to make too many changes in the off-season. Resign Komarov and bring in another defenseman to take the pressure of of Phaneuf and they'll be back in the hunt next year.
 

saxon

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There is a difference between the Wings and the Leafs, the former took a full decade to build their talent pool, the Leafs are still building theirs. After it was stripped bare during The Reign of The All Highest it was going to take years to generate strong farm club. The Leafs missing the playoffs this year was not unexpected. The bright side is they may not need to make too many changes in the off-season. Resign Komarov and bring in another defenseman to take the pressure of of Phaneuf and they'll be back in the hunt next year.
The Wings have always had a strong farm system, they have drafted well and have had good scouting here and in Europe. That's why they've been in the playoffs 20 odd years straight. The Leafs scouting and drafting has been a sore spot over the years.
 

Insidious Von

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That could have been fixed long before Brian Burke got here. Unfortunately for the fans Richard Peddie was put in place to make the Teacher's Pension Plan, they had no interest in the hockey club. After he deposed Ken Dryden he cut the scouting staff in half. If Steve Stravo's business interests had not been floundering at the time the hockey club would be in much better shape today, The Teacher's exploited MLSE for their own interests and The All Highest was their man.

Self-Aggrandizement knows no bounds.

 

Boober69

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God bless Tim and Sid!
God bless Toronto sports media. They are the first to throw the Leafs (whether it's select players or the whole team) under the bus as soon as things go south. But when things are going well, they stroke Leaf fans into thinking winning the cup is a strong possibility and they can do no wrong.
Everyone is an expert after the fact.
How about everyone stop judging the Leafs in 10 game increments and look at the big picture: no cup in 46+ years. The problem is bigger than injuries and single players season to season. It is the failure of an organization to build a team with a plan, knowing they have a never ending financial safety net. No excuses.

To put things into perspective, repeat to yourself: "maybe next year" 46 times and realize that insanity means doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

This organization has run out of slack a long time ago and it amazes me how so many continue to invest heart & emotion into this team without getting anything back.
And comparing the Leafs to other teams like the Cubs is no excuse. It just compares the same issue in some other cities but doesn't make it acceptable.

Sorry if I've offended anyone with my rant but jeezuz.
 

Dorian Grey

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The Leafs had a huge collapse last season in the playoffs against the Bruins. Everyone will have an opinion as to 'what happened'. Myself, I believe the loss of Mark Fraser who was instrumental at clearing out the net, combined with Reimer not being solid when needed were key. The result of that was Bernier to offer something more solid, Bolland and Clarkson to give more grit and experience. Both media and fan would agree last Oct... though hardly a contender, this was an improved team.
I hear you Kat, but for every Bolland and Clarkson who may still be legitimate team improvements should they stay, there are stiffs like McClement, Bodie, Orr, Gleason, D'Amigo, and Holland who really are nothing more than top tier AHL players talent-wise. If Nonis is going to take over and turn around what is arguably the flagship franchise of the NHL, he better be able to find and acquire some REAL talent to truly advance the team in significant fashion through relationship-based trades, and not just continue his opportunistic approach. Be bold. Reach around the league and pull the trigger on some big name, albeit higher risk trades to try and make some real impact. I mean shit, what is he waiting for! and for that matter, what does he have to lose? Trade Kadri. It's time. Phaneuf too, if you can. Bye Bye Kulemin. These guys just aren't good enough to be on the 'new' Leafs team. If that means you load up on two heavy lines and four decent defencemen and ride em' into the ground, so be it. The current mediocrity just cannot continue.
 

ogibowt

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God bless Tim and Sid!

come on IV, that was manufactured outrage.sid is just another loud jock trying to make a name for himself............he could of made the same point by not yelling and screaming...
 

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The problem of trading all the deadwood is you need two teams to make a deal and what makes you think you can get quality players in exchange for "leaf castoffs"? There's not a lot of top flight free agents available this year and a lot of the leagues top players have signed long term deals and it's going to be tough to rebuild in one off season not just for the Leafs but also clubs like the Panthers and Flames etc.
 

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Everyone is an expert after the fact.
Totally agree.


It is the failure of an organization to build a team with a plan, knowing they have a never ending financial safety net.
Totally disagree.

A)They already spend to the max, so it's not like they are going on the cheap, with a "we don't care" attitude, Harold Ballard notwithstanding.

B)By not having a winner (or even contender) they are leaving billions on the table with what they could generate from extra playoff games, from increasing ticket prices for a winner, from higher broadcast rights, from higher advertising rates, from merchandise and concessions. The city loves the team so much it is mind boggling how much more they'd make with a winner. That old argument of "because they already make a profit why should they care" is a total fallacy. Every business enterprise seeks to maximize profits and MLSE knows all too well that without a winner they are falling far short of that.
 
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