Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 hijacked, official says

BlueLaser

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Why don't they send a nuclear sub to track the black boxes? There's got to be one in the area.
I'm not sure anyone wants to admit where their submarines are. Plus it's needle-in-a-haystack if you can't narrow down the search area. They knew exactly where Air France 447 crashed and it still took 2 years to get to the black boxes.
 

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Back to the topic at hand, a RNZAF P-3 has spotted and photographed a large debris field some distance northeast of where they had been searching.


Further, I'd be interested in what Bluelaser thinks of the following theory that the flight crew were killed and the aircraft depressurized by a cockpit fire fueled by the emergency oxygen such as occurred to an EgyptAir Boeing 777-200 on the ground at the airport in Cairo in 2011.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-fire-could-yield-clues-to-missing-plane.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...owned-missing-jet-claims-London-law-firm.html
 

Perry Mason

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Further, I'd be interested in what Bluelaser thinks of the following theory...
What troubles me about all these fire related theories is how the plane could keep on flying for 5 or 6 hours after such devastating damage...

Over to you, captain!

Perry
 

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NOW I know who you remind me of!!!

That know-it-all 'tard wanna-be magnate on Bering Sea Gold, Vernon Adkison!!!

Schlong, Blackrock might be right when he suggests he sailed through 40 foot waves. when he travels to Costa Rica he thinks all the Ticos know him because they all say HOLA to him.
 

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Back to the topic at hand, a RNZAF P-3 has spotted and photographed a large debris field some distance northeast of where they had been searching.


Further, I'd be interested in what Bluelaser thinks of the following theory that the flight crew were killed and the aircraft depressurized by a cockpit fire fueled by the emergency oxygen such as occurred to an EgyptAir Boeing 777-200 on the ground at the airport in Cairo in 2011.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-fire-could-yield-clues-to-missing-plane.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...owned-missing-jet-claims-London-law-firm.html
If the aircraft did indeed keep flying for hours, this seems extremely unlikely. Any fire bad enough to overpower the crew would also overpower the aircraft's automatic systems. And while aircraft are designed and built to be stable and can "fly themselves" even without an autopilot in the short term, in the long term the odds of them not hitting any uneven pockets of air pressure and ending up in a spiral dive are very, very unlikely. It's not impossible... But it's not likely.
 

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Thanks BlueLaser.

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It turns out that the three pieces of debris picked up by a Chinese ship earlier today are just trash.


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Rumor is that the FBI has finished recovering the deleted programs on the pilot's home made flight simulator and found nothing suspicious.
 

BlueLaser

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Thanks BlueLaser.

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It turns out that the three pieces of debris picked up by a Chinese ship earlier today are just trash.


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Rumor is that the FBI has finished recovering the deleted programs on the pilot's home made flight simulator and found nothing suspicious.
Is anyone surprised? I delete files from my computer all the time. And every pilot I know owns several flight simulators. I use my flight simulator to keep up with my instrument flying. Practice makes perfect, and sometimes I can go as much as week or more without flying, even longer if you don't count flights where the autopilot is doing all the work.
 

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If the aircraft did indeed keep flying for hours, this seems extremely unlikely. Any fire bad enough to overpower the crew would also overpower the aircraft's automatic systems. And while aircraft are designed and built to be stable and can "fly themselves" even without an autopilot in the short term, in the long term the odds of them not hitting any uneven pockets of air pressure and ending up in a spiral dive are very, very unlikely. It's not impossible... But it's not likely.
Wouldn't an autopilot system handle 'uneven pockets of air pressure'?
 

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Wouldn't an autopilot system handle 'uneven pockets of air pressure'?
I would imagine an autopilot will keep altitude according to airpressure, as it is the only measurements of altitude it has. I cannot imagine an autopilot changing direction unless it is instructed to do so.
 

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Wouldn't an autopilot system handle 'uneven pockets of air pressure'?
If an electrical fire is the reason all the electronics shorted out, there wouldn't be an autopilot unless in addition to flying itself for hours, the airplane miraculously managed to put out the fire that the aircrew couldn't before it overwhelmed them. If you assume an electrical fire, I think you have to assume no autopilot.
 

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Sorry to interject, I don't mean to barge in on your sword fight, but I have a really important question. I keep seeing images of the debris, now its 120 articles of debris, well why the heck is it always a satellite view, why can't they use image view so they can zoom in and actually see this debris...Cant they take a still shot and then zoom like google does??
They are zooming in to a point.
 

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If an electrical fire is the reason all the electronics shorted out, there wouldn't be an autopilot unless in addition to flying itself for hours, the airplane miraculously managed to put out the fire that the aircrew couldn't before it overwhelmed them. If you assume an electrical fire, I think you have to assume no autopilot.
Right, ok. Thanks.

I'm not sure if there was a fire or mechanical failure since the pilots would've communicated. That about-face turn with the transponder switched off & no communications doesn't make sense if it was a result of a malfunction of some kind.
 

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Right, ok. Thanks.

I'm not sure if there was a fire or mechanical failure since the pilots would've communicated. That about-face turn with the transponder switched off & no communications doesn't make sense if it was a result of a malfunction of some kind.
Well, just to be fair, if it was an emergency, and the plane was am unresponsive burning wreck in a hard left-hand turn in clear skies, as long as I wasn't losing altitude, I'd let the plane turn all it wanted while I fought to put out the fire. As long as it stays at altitude and I can see there's no one around to crash into me, I'm dealing with the emergency first. Once my crew and I have that sorted, I'm going to figure out why the plane is turning and fix that. Then I'm going to figure out where I am and what direction I'm pointed and come up with a plan. Hopefully at some point after the immediate danger of the fire had passed and I've assured the safety of my passengers and crew, we had a chance to get in touch with ATC, our company, a fishing trawler underneath us, anyone, and let them know what's going on, but that communication would be my last priority unless it was critical. Why keep flying in that direction for hours? No clue. You also have to bear in mind that the "fire" theory assumes a fire that spread so rapidly it knocked out the communications. Again, it's an extremely unlikely situation, but not impossible. It's the flying for 5 more hours that makes it virtually impossible. I don't want to say 100% impossible, but about as close as you can get. I can't imagine any situation that would result in the series of events that have presented themselves.

Then again, I'm still not 100% sold on the idea that they did fly for 5 more hours and won't be unless they come up with more data than the have now or, ideally, the wreckage. I'm not saying I don't believe it flew for 5 more hours, I'm saying I'm not convinced it did. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out it crashed shortly after contact was lost, but I also wouldn't be surprised to hear it flew 5 more hours and ended up off the coast of Australia.
 

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don't rule out abducted by aliens.
 

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don't rule out abducted by aliens.
It wasn't aliens. The Space Shuttle programme was never actually cancelled. The shuttles are now bigger, and can fly upside down -- one flew down, opened its giant cargo bay doors, and ate the plane. The passengers are all alive and well and being held hostage on the International Space Station.
 

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Wasn't there a fairly popular tv show a few years ago that started something like this? :cool:
 

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Thanks BlueLaser.

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It turns out that the three pieces of debris picked up by a Chinese ship earlier today are just trash.


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Rumor is that the FBI has finished recovering the deleted programs on the pilot's home made flight simulator and found nothing suspicious.

Wow!!!! Chinese picking up trash? This is getting REALLY wierd :Eek:
 

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I am starting to doubt anything and everything we have been told: there seems to be no reliable evidence of anything.

How reliable is that evidence from the satellite?

The situation begins to fit the words that Winston Churchill used to describe the Russians (unrelated to MH370!): "It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."

I expect that if we ever find an answer, it is going to be something pretty weird! Something like maybe the plane was hijacked to North Korea?

Perry
 
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