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groggy

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Palestine is not a self governing part of Israel. It is occupied by Israel. The occupation would simply end. There would remain a border dispute over a few square km's of land where the settlements are, but the WB and Gaza would cease being occupied land.
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Right, so they would become bantustans within Israel's borders, since Israel would not allow open borders for Gaza and the West Bank will become a serious of bantustans divided by settlements.
 

gryfin

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Even Olmerts map shows that the Palestinian state would have been 100% contiguous. Another groggy lie.
You need to get up to speed on reality. There never was a map from Olmert. He refused to provide it to the Palestinians.

"Abbas silenced those present at the late hour meeting so that he could concentrate. He asked for the map that Olmert described to be drawn from what he remembered because Olmert refused to give him a copy. The Israeli prime minister told him that he would not give Abbas the map until the Palestinian leader was willing to ink his initials on it, or in other words, agree to the borders that Israel offered."

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-...ts-peace-offer-to-Palestinians-exposed-314261

Now, those are serious negotiations.
 

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Right, so they would become bantustans within Israel's borders, since Israel would not allow open borders for Gaza and the West Bank will become a serious of bantustans divided by settlements.
No, they are not now, nor will they be, within Israeli territory.
 

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Racial purity is important to fanatics.
Fanatics like the Palestinians who ethnically cleansed every single Jew from the territory under their control, and where there are blatant anti Jew laws in force.

Israel on the other hand is a vibrant multi ethnic state, with a large Arab minority, in which everyone shares equality.
 

gryfin

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Fanatics like the Palestinians who ethnically cleansed every single Jew from the territory under their control, and where there are blatant anti Jew laws in force.

Israel on the other hand is a vibrant multi ethnic state, with a large Arab minority, in which everyone shares equality.
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fuji

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No, that's my response when I hear all sputter, no content and racism.
Except you wrote that in reply to an indisputable fact, like you always do. In this case, the indisputable fact that the Palestinians ethnically cleansed all Jews from their territory, and have blatantly anti-Jewish laws in force.
 

groggy

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Except you wrote that in reply to an indisputable fact, like you always do. In this case, the indisputable fact that the Palestinians ethnically cleansed all Jews from their territory, and have blatantly anti-Jewish laws in force.
Are you trying to claim that settlers aren't Jewish?
 

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Are you trying to claim that settlers aren't Jewish?
They aren't in Palestinian controlled areas. There are no Jews left in Palestinian controlled areas. The Palestinians ethnically cleansed every single last one of them.
 

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Except you wrote that in reply to an indisputable fact, like you always do. In this case, the indisputable fact that the Palestinians ethnically cleansed all Jews from their territory, and have blatantly anti-Jewish laws in force.

The fact is that the West Bank is completely Palestinian territory and hundreds of thousands of Israeli's have been illegally transferred there. You need to read a newspaper.
 

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The fact is that the West Bank is completely Palestinian territory and hundreds of thousands of Israeli's have been illegally transferred there. You need to read a newspaper.
The fact is they there were numerous Jews living in the West Bank, in places like Hebron, who were ethnically cleansed by the Arabs. Every single Jew was forced out or murdered, so that now there is not a single solitary Jew left in Palestinian controlled territory.
 

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The fact is they there were numerous Jews living in the West Bank, in places like Hebron, who were ethnically cleansed by the Arabs. Every single Jew was forced out or murdered, so that now there is not a single solitary Jew left in Palestinian controlled territory.
There are hundreds of thousands of Israeli's illegally in the occupied West Bank. You might have of this thing called "settlements".
 

fuji

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There are hundreds of thousands of Israeli's illegally in the occupied West Bank. You might have of this thing called "settlements".
Why would you write about settlers in Israeli controlled areas in response to a post about Palestinians ethnically cleansing Jews from territory under their control?

OH WAIT..

You think the job isn't done yet, you want the ethnic cleansing to continue. Of course.
 

groggy

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OH WAIT..

You think the job isn't done yet, you want the ethnic cleansing to continue. Of course.
Are you still pushing for more ethnic cleansing by way of settlements?
Its time to end those racist enclaves and allow a pluralistic PA to run them.
That's the only way to end the ethnic cleansing.
Equal rights for all through all of Israel and the occupied territories.
 

fuji

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Are you still pushing for more ethnic cleansing by way of settlements?
There has been no ethnic cleansing.

Its time to end those racist enclaves and allow a pluralistic PA to run them.
Hilarious that you claim the way to achieve pluralism is to ethnically cleanse.

Are you aware of what a clown you are?

Equal rights for all through all of Israel and the occupied territories.
That would be great. Israel already has equal rights for all. Is the PA going to do the same?

As of now the PA is incredibly racist and discriminatory, with a variety of anti Jewish policies and laws as well as state sponsored violence against Jews.

When will we see the PA make progress towards being a pluralistic state?
 

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Its time to end those racist enclaves and allow a pluralistic PA to run them.
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Do you even believe what you are saying? The pluralistic PA has a death sentence for selling land to Jews and who refuse to let Israeli Jews live in the eventual Palestinian state.


Of course more significant, neither the PA nor the Palestinian people want a One State solution.
 

fuji

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That's not what you said in post 35.
You really should make your mind up.
I have, I have decided you are an illiterate, dishonest clown.

Israel did not ethnically cleanse Arabs, on the contrary, it extended full rights and citizenship to its Arab citizens, some of whom hold prominent posts in cabinet, on the supreme court, as ambassadors, and army officers.

The Palestinians on the other hand really did ethnically cleanse every single Jew from the territory under their control, teach hatred to their children in school, and enacted blatantly anti Semitic laws.

The facts are exactly opposite of the lie you constantly repeat.
 
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