Will You Quit Hobbying If A Nordic Model is Implemented In Canada?
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I was commenting in the context of a previous post: the notion that it would 'never' happen; it would. For reputable agencies, they wouldn't stay in business very long, since they will be watched by the police, and their clientele likely disappear very soon. Some would probably resort to facilitators (pimps) in order to drum up business and secure their 'employees' away from police surveillance (another new bunch of criminals created by the Nordic law to prosecute). Those wanting to remain independent would probably wind up on backpage, but then, clients would be suspicious of what they would find at the other end. Along with the legitimate SP's, you would probably find intermixed a few opportunists: She will take advantage of the fact that she can never be charged for selling sex, and just demand your money after you show up at the door, and then tell you to fcuk off or she will call the cops on you. And if that don't work, she'll tell her boyfriend to smash your face in and break your fcuking fingers.
That could happen. We don't know how things will turn out. We just have to wait and see where the police are shifting their focus if this law passes.
Thinking up the worst doomsday scenarios if this law were to pass is not going to get us anywhere. We need to do something positive and fear mongering and speculation is not positive.
I'm actually thinking of uping my tempo and seeing ever more sps over the next while. I don't know how much longer I will be able to keep doing this safely. and I want to go out with a bang. but we need to unite more then ever now.
and if this hobby does become impossible, We'll find a way to cope. We have to. The feminists and religious douches don't care about us. We're less then human to them. If we let them destroy our spirit, they've won.
Take away the lions food, put him in a cage with many other hungry lions and see what happens! Numbers are too grand to ignore just look at terbs hits. What do you think will happen to all of the men who need this to keep tame, especially the ones who have important roles, are very intelligent, and/or hold power or influence. Man I don't even even want to imagine, let alone what would happen to me. Don't take our food we need to live a normal life! Not a very wise thing to do.
I don't know, what do you think will happen?
Everyone copes differently, for some it won't be a big deal and they will move on, for others, It won't be easy, I'm struggling with this a lot myself. I am driving myself nuts thinking about this. I don't know what to do, I can't talk to anyone about this other then on here. I am almost tempted to see a councilor, I can't think, I can't sleep, I am anxious, I really feel like our society does think men like me are less then human.
Thinking of doomsday scenarios is one way to get motivated. Send e-mails to newspaper editorialists, MP's, municipal politicians. If you see a politician or a columnist say something outrageous, prejudicial or completely false, write them a note to set them straight (politely). It's easy to figure out journalist's e-mail address.
Don't have to pick up the tempo and go with a bang, so to speak. Just establish a professional relationship with one or a few reputable SP's. If there is a crackdown, you will be able to continue hobbying with a trusted SP without exposing yourself to the unknowns and perils of on-line adds, including possible sting operations.
Also, as I mentioned in another thread, I feel that organizations like Maggie's etc. need to mobilize and stage high profile protests on Parliament Hill and so forth... why haven't they done anything? The future of the hobby as we know it is at stake here!
Blah blah blah. Maggie's IS mobilizing.
edit: but you have given me the beginning of an idea. We should start by brainstorming to figure out ways to mobilize terb, merb, cerb etc members as a group, while keeping identities anonymous.
Just to start off:
perhaps we can begin forum campaigns to encourage everyone to create a gmail account with a particular identifying prefix or suffix. Gmail would be good to use because there are other Google servcies we can use such as document collaboration, real time chat etc.
Emails to the government as individuals are okay but working collectively could be an effective additional method of getting our points across.
Agreed.
i am going to send an e-mail to my local MP, we all need to take action and contribute something instead of just whining on TERB about it. however I've never written to a politician before, I know what I should write but it should be concise, and not to be too long otherwise it will be glossed over. Should I use my real e-mail address?
I know that if this law gets passed quite a few reputable SPs are going to get very rich that's for sure. Hobbyists should be keeping an eye on sps they know they will be able to trust if these dark times do come.
That's what I'd like to know as well... Bedford has a blog, but hasn't said much. She's all but disappeared from the public eye since the court ruling, leaving us to fend for ourselves in the trenches. I can't believe she would be so idiotic as to challenge the laws in a time of a Conservative majority. Her silence appears to indicate that she doesn't care what happens from now on in...
Bedford launched her court actions for herself, not for the public good. She was busted for having a dungeon in her house. The cops took everything in it, even her chandelier, and not only deprived her of her livelihood, but of her place of residence. She got convicted but appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, and won; she got justice.
Whether the Conservatives were in power or not is irrelevant. You don't wait for the right political party to be in power before you seek justice.
Whether or not a person is in the public view depends entirely on the press/media. If they don't think that you're newsworthy, you disappear from public view.
Did she suffer millions in damages? No, but it was her right to demand justice and she got it. Her lawyer, Alan Young, took her case pro bono (free) because of the principle involved. He's a professor of law, and I guess if it was more important for him to leave a legacy behind, rather than making cash as most lawyers do.
The only action she could take to bring herself to public view would be to create a public incident, and that would probably be against the law. Because that's what the press would want, exploitation for the same of making money. The media isn't interested in what she has to say because most readers and viewers are not interested either right now. Nobody calls the press and demands that their ideas and comments be put on the front page, or anywhere else for that matter. The press is opinionated, while they try to let you believe that they reflect society's thinking and values.
There is no doubt in my mind that the forthcoming laws will be unconstitutional, but my question is: By whom will the new laws be challenged? It would be nice if Ms. Bedford would continue the fight, but court cases cost a lot of money, and I don't know if Alan Young would agree to continue pro bono.
I think that is exactly right. None of the plaintiff's were worried about sex workers. Bedford had nothing to lose. She was hoping to start her dungeon again and not be busted. But if it didn't work out (ie. Nordic model), then she wouldn't be any worse off. The same thing with the other plaintiffs. One wanted to open a brothel. Again, if things worked out, then she could open the brothel, but if things didn't work out, then she wouldn't be any worse off.
We and sex workers are just collateral damages to those people. It's the streetwalkers who will be the real victims. Their lives are going to be much worse after the nordic model is introduced.
