Criminalizing Clients at the Conservative Party Convention in Calgary

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The Conservative Party Convention in Calgary this week is going to vote on a proposal to make paying for sex a criminal offence.

They are suggesting you can give it away for free but the client can't pay.

If the party supports this and Harper likes the idea, Harper can bury it in one of his omnibus budget bills. That would flush years of work in the courts down the drain.

The fact that prostitution is a lawful occupation has been central to the court cases challenging related laws. If Harper changes the law, it becomes a whole new ball game.

Here is the media release and info from the FIRST email list.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Does research inform where Canadian political parties stand on prostitution?

October 28, 2013

The topic of prostitution will be among the policy floor resolutions at the upcoming Conservative convention, which is scheduled to be held at the end of the month in Calgary. The modified resolution on prostitution says that the party will, among other things, seek to develop a plan to criminalize the act of purchasing sex in Canada. Given how little research exists about the clients of sex workers, it is important to ask – what is the basis of the party’s call to criminalize an activity which has never been illegal in Canada?

Considering recent discussions about prostitution law in Canada and internationally, it is not surprising that the topic of prostitution is coming up in political parties' conversations. The Liberals will be voting next year on supporting legalization of prostitution. At their most recent convention, the NDP postponed a vote supporting the party’s position of decriminalization.

As political parties discuss their respective positions on this issue, it is imperative that voices of those who are directly impacted by resulting policies be included in the conversations. This includes the people who sell and purchase sexual services in Canada. For the past several months, our study Sex, Safety & Security has been asking Canadian buyers of sexual services about their experiences. The project is led by Chris Atchison, who has spent 18 years researching experiences of Canadians who pay for sex. His most recently completed work, Johns' Voice (http://www.johnsvoice.ca/) was the largest and the most successful research with sex buyers in Canada to date.

Sex, Safety & Security, a project funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, is one of several that are currently taking place about the sex industry in Canada. We hope that a better understanding of the industry will lead to policies that truly do contribute to and help ensure the wellbeing of all involved in Canada's sex industry.

CONTACT:

Chris Atchison
Tel: 604.558.0489
Email: info@sexsafetysecurity.ca
Department of Sociology
University of Victoria
PO Box 1700 STN CSC
Victoria, BC V8W 2Y2

www.sexsafetysecurity.ca
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Phil C. McNasty

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That dominatrix woman is to blame for all this :frusty:


 

oldjones

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Well, at least it will make sense all the American-style bull-doody about 'roses' and 'donations' that some buyers and sellers think is necessary. Now it will be.
 

Azprint

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Well, it's not even the proposed bill. Just a proposed point of the platform that has yet to be voted on. And even if it becomes part of their election platform it doesn't mean they will actually take action on it. And even if they do, and it becomes law. Who gives a fuck, Alberta is like a redneck Alabama of Canada.
 

TeasePlease

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I raised this long ago. It's been on their official agenda for a while.

It has nothing to do with rights or legalities of the profession. It's simply and solely a social policy position.

If this passes, you're going to need some "John" to stand up and say that it's his god-given right to poon...
 

Butler1000

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Well, it's not even the proposed bill. Just a proposed point of the platform that has yet to be voted on. And even if it becomes part of their election platform it doesn't mean they will actually take action on it. And even if they do, and it becomes law. Who gives a fuck, Alberta is like a redneck Alabama of Canada.
He is discussing , I believe, the Conservative Party of Canada. Any law they bring in will be across the nation.
 

basketcase

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I guess this will help in the dating scene.

imagine....

That was a wonderful dinner. I would like to pay for your meal but since I'm planning to nail you tonight, the law prevents me from doing so.
 

d_jedi

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Bullet proof legal strategy to avoid getting entangled in this law, courtesy of Family Guy:
 

d_jedi

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Im an American (from Buffalo) that comes to Canada for the hobby. I have limited knowledge of Canadian politics. Is there any chance this actually becomes law?
With the current government, it's certainly possible.
 

night ride

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Watch out if Harper wins another term. The dark side of their policies are finally going to come out in what he probably plans as his final term.
 

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Conservative boosters have been downplaying the nasty social side of the party for awhile. This is now supposedly 'only' a proposal. Then it will 'only' be an election promise. Then 'only' a bill, not yet law.
 

blackrock13

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Next election wont be till October 2015. If current polls stay the same till then the Liberals will win (and I'll be voting for Trudeau myself).

So unless this becomes law before 2015 there's still a chance it might never happen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_in_the_42nd_Canadian_federal_election

That raph is an eye opener. The Conservatives have been in decline since July '11, from a high of ~42% to presently at 30%. The Liberals have been basically on the rise since before July '11, from ~20% to ~38% presently. Apparently the electorate don't think it all abut the economy as the Conservative seem to love and parrot.
 

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This whole situation is a disaster. Some ego-manic (Alan Young) decides to challenge the prostitution laws and we are going to end up being criminalized.

Harper is looking for any distraction regarding the senate scandal and I am sure he will decide to add this to the mix.
 

yung_dood

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This whole situation is a disaster. Some ego-manic (Alan Young) decides to challenge the prostitution laws and we are going to end up being criminalized.

Harper is looking for any distraction regarding the senate scandal and I am sure he will decide to add this to the mix.
You're blaming Alan Young for this LOL?
 

TeasePlease

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You're blaming Alan Young for this LOL?

Theres a Good chance the cons will rush this through parliament. They could use the law and order and religious right support for the next election. Lord knows they didn't do enough to appease their base with lame sauce long guy registry repeal.

I dont know if it was alan young, but a lot of industry folks were none too pleased to see the case proceed......
 

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I believe the Conservatives have adopted the same policy position at each of their previous two annual conventions. There's a big difference between adopting a policy position as part of the party platform, and actually introducing a bill to the floor of the house.
 

blackrock13

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I believe the Conservatives have adopted the same policy position at each of their previous two annual conventions. There's a big difference between adopting a policy position as part of the party platform, and actually introducing a bill to the floor of the house.

and a lot of time passes along the way.
 
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