The Province of Ontario had better start doing something, Toronto is beginning to be talked about as a travel disaster zone. Needless to say if that talk gets louder, that will not be good for business development.Hollow victory, where's the money gonna come from?
$1.5 BILLION from the province! Good luck with that.
Hollow victory, where's the money gonna come from?
$1.5 BILLION from the province! Good luck with that.
I don't quite understand the question. The money is going to come from the same place that the money for the LRT, and the other transit plans...Hollow victory, where's the money gonna come from?
Rob Ford vote buying? I disagree.It may be a victory for Mayor Ford, but it could be one that comes back to bite him down the road when the bills come in. It seems on the surface that there will be an increased tax liability for all Toronto residents. It will solidfy his political base in Scarb, but makes him vunerable to accusations of vote buying with the rest of Toronto's money.
He also campained on no new taxes. His problem is squaring that circle for the people who have incresed taxes and no benefits from the expanded line.Rob Ford vote buying? I disagree.
He always "campaigns" building subway to Scarborough for the last 4 or 5 years.
Subways was one of his major election platform in 2010 and he was democratically elected with a hugh margin.
Yes he is mandated to bring subway to Scarborough and after all his hard work he got it done.
Buying vote for 2014? Yes all those Liberals and NDPs flip flop on this issue just to get a better chance for the election.
Rob Ford has already been laughing all the way to be re-elected.
He also campained on no new taxes. His problem is squaring that circle for the people who have incresed taxes and no benefits from the expanded line.
I hope his campaign manager will harp on this.Rob Ford vote buying? I disagree.
He always "campaigns" building subway to Scarborough for the last 4 or 5 years.
Subways was one of his major election platform in 2010 and he was democratically elected with a hugh margin.
Yes he is mandated to bring subway to Scarborough and after all his hard work he got it done.
Buying vote for 2014? Yes all those Liberals and NDPs flip flop on this issue just to get a better chance for the election.
Rob Ford has already been laughing all the way to be re-elected.
Especially without a DTR (that would actually improve the TTCs bottom line).Big problem with extending subways that are tying into the existing lines is that the existing lines seem already filled to capacity.
TTC added the North York City Centre stop on the Yonge Line years ago so additional stops may be built here too when need arise.Especially without a DTR (that would actually improve the TTCs bottom line).
Yeah, this is a big victory for Ford, even though he had precious little to do with it. It's pretty much the provincial by-election opening the door, plus East end councillors who long wanted subways getting Stintz to walk through that door. To Ford's credit (and it damn near kills me to say it), he may have helped get some new money on the table without nuking existing (more optimal) plans.
I can say, that of all of the wrong subway projects, this one is slightly less wrong. It's replacing the Scarborough RT with a seamless connection, and isn't *directly* burdening the Yonge line all that much more traffic than what it's replacing.
Dedicated LRT with 7 stops would have made more sense than a subway with three stops, IMHO. People that use this extension may be more poorly served by it than the LRT, and it will be less operationally efficient that the LRT, but it shouldn't break the TTC. At best it will take this issue off the table.
The only thing that would make me loose my shit would be if the funding for this comes at the expense of the already approved plans that would move more asses per dollar in areas that really need it. If this clear the way to get the current projects done, and a DTR on the table, 'whatever'.
The biggest losers here are likely to be Stinz and a whack of counsellors, and some provincial liberals, who are going to be beaten with the cudgel they just handed the Fords. Oh, and any poor TTCer who's stuck between one of those 3 subway stops...
Especially without a DTR (that would actually improve the TTCs bottom line).
Yeah, this is a big victory for Ford, even though he had precious little to do with it. It's pretty much the provincial by-election opening the door, plus East end councillors who long wanted subways getting Stintz to walk through that door. To Ford's credit (and it damn near kills me to say it), he may have helped get some new money on the table without nuking existing (more optimal) plans.
I can say, that of all of the wrong subway projects, this one is slightly less wrong. It's replacing the Scarborough RT with a seamless connection, and isn't *directly* burdening the Yonge line all that much more traffic than what it's replacing.
Dedicated LRT with 7 stops would have made more sense than a subway with three stops, IMHO. People that use this extension may be more poorly served by it than the LRT, and it will be less operationally efficient that the LRT, but it shouldn't break the TTC. At best it will take this issue off the table.
The only thing that would make me loose my shit would be if the funding for this comes at the expense of the already approved plans that would move more asses per dollar in areas that really need it. If this clear the way to get the current projects done, and a DTR on the table, 'whatever'.
The biggest losers here are likely to be Stinz and a whack of counsellors, and some provincial liberals, who are going to be beaten with the cudgel they just handed the Fords. Oh, and any poor TTCer who's stuck between one of those 3 subway stops...