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swanky

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I would be hesitant of any SP who doesn't properly screen her clients. You said she takes strangers off the street. That's just a tragedy waiting to happen. The fact that she will let just anyone fuck her for $200, doesn't say much about her self esteem. In fact it sounds non existent.
Cmon. The most that SPs do with vetting their clients is getting a valid phone number and looking through the peep hole. If they have the cash and they look reasonable the door opens.

As for her self-esteem, I frankly think it's fucked up. She seems confident and cocky but it may simply be a facade.
 

mur11

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I feel like quoting Lester Bangs from Almost Famous here
(Slightly paraphrased)

"Aw man. See you made friends with them. They make you feel cool. And hey, I met you. You are not cool"

It really doesn't have much to do with your specific situation, but I immediately thought of it while reading your post

Carry on.
 

swanky

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Back-in-the-day I used to date strippers, and can say from first hand experience that SOME of these girls have serious game. Not saying she does, but be careful. Remember that her feelings are probably not be involved when you're paying her for sex. Other than that, you might want to consider just bring her friend and not a paying customer. See how that goes.
Best of luck.
I tried that for a few weeks. She had no problems with that, but I was warned "your loss". In the end, I couldn't resist keeping my hands off her.
 

Jiffypop69

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I tried that for a few weeks. She had no problems with that, but I was warned "your loss". In the end, I couldn't resist keeping my hands off her.
Well....then there's probably no hope for you. LOL
If you really want to be her friend, all I can say is JUST be her friend.
Again, best of luck.
 

Bobzilla

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I tried that for a few weeks. She had no problems with that, but I was warned "your loss". In the end, I couldn't resist keeping my hands off her.
She knows you have/had feelings for her, that's why she tells you that anyone with $200 can have her. She's hoping that will force some perspective on you. Since you've already tried not having sex with her & you've failed to maintain that resolve, she knows it's gone beyond simple paid sex on your part. Hence, the "your loss" comment.
 

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She is who she is. You knew that going in. Either enjoy her for who she is, or take a pass. How all the things that she does affect you is really your problem, not hers.
 

explorerzip

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You need to make some new friends and spend less time with her (better yet stop) especially if you are paying her for time spent together regardless if there's sex involved or not. If you have to compromise your values and pay to spend time with her, then that's a bad sign and not a good relationship. You shouldn't have to compromise anything on a true friend.
 

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Cmon. The most that SPs do with vetting their clients is getting a valid phone number and looking through the peep hole. If they have the cash and they look reasonable the door opens.

As for her self-esteem, I frankly think it's fucked up. She seems confident and cocky but it may simply be a facade.
I don't buy that. There are many who don't operate that way. If they're concerned about their safety then they have some self esteem. There are many indy SPs who have complex screening rules and criteria and they do this for a reason...........mostly to rule out the undesirable. They are not all willing to fuck just anyone who has the $200. They want to be sure they're not going to get some criminal or some psycho who will put them at risk. Any SP who doesn't properly screen her clients is asking for trouble.
 

wazup

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Who initiates these friend get togethers, you`re probably nothing more than a free meal and drinks.
 

curiousm7

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Who initiates these friend get togethers, you`re probably nothing more than a free meal and drinks.
I am with wazup on this one...sorry dude...you still gotta pay to see her or be with her, you are just one of her "regulars" who pays her rent. You are her job...back off my man...the short term loss of missing her will go away. The day you take her to dinner, a romantic walk and then MAJOR mutual sparks in the sack with no money exchanged...that is the day you become more than a client. It is a possibility but, based on your posts about this situation, I wouldn't hold my breath.

I have an sp friend...we meet for lunch, some necking and heavy petting but, if the clothes come off...it's all business. I am ok with that. Clothes stay on, we can spend a couple hours together just eating and chatting...and, btw, we take turns paying for lunch. She is a friend...
 

TeasePlease

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She seems confident and cocky but it may simply be a facade.

Good observation. Entirely possible, if not probable. Being a sexworker and acting in persona can be the perfect foil.

just tread carefully if and when she lets down her guard and reveals her true self to you.
 

JessyTurner

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I have read all the posts on here but a bit confused... i keep reading about you being a friend yet you have problems with things that only a more then a friend would have. Either way boyfriend feelings or friend feelings It does not seem like this girl would want to change her ways anyway. So either like her for how she is or move on.

Now on her saying she would fuck anybody for $200 etc. and to tell it to the world , to me that is a little fucked up lol but we are not the same so once again either you like her for her or you don't.
 

curiousm7

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Well said!!


I have read all the posts on here but a bit confused... i keep reading about you being a friend yet you have problems with things that only a more then a friend would have. Either way boyfriend feelings or friend feelings It does not seem like this girl would want to change her ways anyway. So either like her for how she is or move on.

Now on her saying she would fuck anybody for $200 etc. and to tell it to the world , to me that is a little fucked up lol but we are not the same so once again either you like her for her or you don't.
 

swanky

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I feel like quoting Lester Bangs from Almost Famous here
(Slightly paraphrased)

"Aw man. See you made friends with them. They make you feel cool. And hey, I met you. You are not cool"

It really doesn't have much to do with your specific situation, but I immediately thought of it while reading your post

Carry on.
Care you explain what this means? I'm curious.
 

swanky

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I don't buy that. There are many who don't operate that way. If they're concerned about their safety then they have some self esteem. There are many indy SPs who have complex screening rules and criteria and they do this for a reason...........mostly to rule out the undesirable. They are not all willing to fuck just anyone who has the $200. They want to be sure they're not going to get some criminal or some psycho who will put them at risk. Any SP who doesn't properly screen her clients is asking for trouble.
May be true with some SPs but 95% of the BP girls don't do too much vetting. Even the INDYs who advertize here have no trouble seeing me on the same day just by texting. Some will ask for things like age, race, and profession but that's rare. Yes many do get into trouble with thugs and drug dealers if they continue to operate this way.
 

swanky

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I am with wazup on this one...sorry dude...you still gotta pay to see her or be with her, you are just one of her "regulars" who pays her rent. You are her job...back off my man...the short term loss of missing her will go away. The day you take her to dinner, a romantic walk and then MAJOR mutual sparks in the sack with no money exchanged...that is the day you become more than a client. It is a possibility but, based on your posts about this situation, I wouldn't hold my breath.

I have an sp friend...we meet for lunch, some necking and heavy petting but, if the clothes come off...it's all business. I am ok with that. Clothes stay on, we can spend a couple hours together just eating and chatting...and, btw, we take turns paying for lunch. She is a friend...
I don't pay for any social time. I will often spend all Saturday with her walking around DT, grabbing lunch, and then I drop her off so that she can work that evening. As for long romantic walks, we've done that few times in Collingwood too. I won't deny that I have feeling for her but I'm not in love with her and I don't have any delusion that we can ever be a couple. As noted earlier, when we do have sex I always pay her. This is a rather unease part of our relationship but it's has more to do with history of the relationship. I don't mind paying her but it's something that we just don't talk about. I just discretely leave it on the table or something.
 

mur11

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Care you explain what this means? I'm curious.
In the movie, the 15-year old William Miller is assigned by Rolling Stone to go out on tour with an up-and-coming rock band called Stillwater and write an article about them. Lester Bangs is one of the most important and influential rock journalists at the time and serves as William's mentor. William goes out on tour with the band, befriends them, loses his virginity, meets the girl of his dreams, and basically gets a behind-the-scenes look at the rock n' roll lifestyle. However, he finds that he grows to like the members of the band, especially the lead guitarist, and can't bring himself to write anything negative about them. What Lester says in the quote I referenced is that the band intentionally befriended him, made think he was cool, so he would only write flattering things about them.

I believe the connection between that quote and your situation with a SP who gets you to buy her dinner, drinks etc, in exchange for an illusion of friendship would be obvious no?

I don't know the exact specifics of your situation, it could very well be a genuine friendship, but it does sound a bit like she's taking you for a ride, metaphorically speaking

BTW, the movie ends with William writing an "unmerciful" and truthful article about the band, the article being praised by his editors, but then the band (who William thought were his friends) denying 90% of the article because it doesn't make them look 'cool' enough. Eventually the girl who William loves (a groupie) who also loves the band's guitarist, persuades the guitarist to visit William at his house and apologize for selling him out. He then contacts Rolling Stone to explain that William's article is the honest truth
Excellent movie, btw, one of the best of the 2000s
 

swanky

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just tread carefully if and when she lets down her guard and reveals her true self to you.
One times when she was really drunk, she told me all about how she got into this business and that people closest to her were responsible. Heart wrenching story but I heard worst.

People generally don't like it when a mirror is placed front of them, so I know what you mean.
 
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