Western Women Interviewed On Why Western Men Go To Thailand

[Narg]

I think you should be the last person on the planet to judge other men of their shortcomings. ...

I beg your pardon? You think being a hypocrite disentitles someone to judge others? Precious few judgments would be made in your world.

[Typo corrected to irritate grammar nazi immediately below.]

 

[SenecaBoy]

I beg your pardon? You think being a hipocrite disentitles someone to judge others? Precious few judgments would be made in your world.

Its spelled hypocrite, not hipocrite. Come to think of it, yes I might have read to deep into that post by VIP...but in the end he confessed to playing a game to hurt one woman while actually reaching out for her friend? I called it the way i saw it..now whats so hypocritical about this?

 

[VIPhunter]

yes attitude plays a key role in all of this games you play, infact most guys and girls play games these days so no foul there. But lets look at this a little bit more deeper.

In all fairness, by what you just said, you play games to attract the women of your choice while misleading another because you have no intent of ending up with "least attractive woman". I think you should be the last person on the planet to judge other men of their shortcomings. I mean lets be honest here, if you are going to field a game to get women which most guys do you should not be coming on any site and judging the rest because in one way or the other you yourself are guilty of a shortcoming or two, just saying.

Also the business card trick, works on and off, not all the time.

I beg your pardon? What game am I playing? I'm speaking to one woman in a group. She may be a woman who usually gets no attention. I'm giving her attention. I never promised to date, propose to, or marry the girl.

The business card trick is not 'a trick'. It just simplifies exchanging information. If she calls you, good show....If not..no big loss.

I talk to many people every day...It's Not really that hard to do. It's not a game so much as just life...Some are easier than others, some need warming up, and some it's better to bail early.

But if you feel guilty about it, ask the less attractive one out too.

Jeez.

 

[SenecaBoy]

I beg your pardon? What game am I playing? I'm speaking to one woman in a group. She may be a woman who usually gets no attention. I'm giving her attention. I never promised to date, propose to, or marry the girl.

The business card trick is not 'a trick'. It just simplifies exchanging information. If she calls you, good show....If not..no big loss.

I talk to many people every day...It's Not really that hard to do. It's not a game so much as just life...Some are easier than others, some need warming up, and some it's better to bail early.

But if you feel guilty about it, ask the less attractive one out too.

Jeez.

And what happens when you give a woman who usually gets no attention ...some attention, she begins to feel special and feel needed for once, she thinks about the encounter and thinks that there could be more there. The game of baiting the prettier one with the show of interest on the less prettier one is sort of malicious in one way because it ignores any and all feelings the not so pretty girl may have..I can see why women are more guarded these days.

 

[Don Draper]

It's not being fat, short or old. It's attitude. Bring something, anything to the table...People (Women) would like to spend time with interesting men.

Free advice: My work has put me in many social situations, while working...dinner, bars, night clubs.....

Here's the major list of 4 problems most men seem to have:

1) Lack of desire for anything but sports. Sure, enjoy hockey, and you may even find a few gals who like it....but if it's your only passion, you sir are boring

2) Table manners: Many men dine with all the grace of a vulture...Sit down, slow down, use your knife, fork and napkin properly..This shows that you have some culture (take your damn hat off too)

3)Dress like a man. I don't care if they are $500 jeans. They are still jeans....don't wear them on social occasions.

4) I like a good curse word now and again....a properly placed 'Fuck you' gets results. But when having an adult conversation with a woman you would like to get to know better....dump the sailor mouth.

Bonus: I'm amazed at how many men do not carry business or at least calling cards. All your contact information is on them, and they can be given out with great aplomb, or a nonchalance that suggests you are not TOO invested in the meeting.

Again, for fun, I've tried the 'talk to the least attractive girl in the group' to get the pretty one's attention.

Works like a charm most of the time.....but nothing suggests at the end of the night you can't just slip the cute one your card.....as an afterthought of course.

This is exactly what it is! Well said VIPHunter.

It's not out of any man's reach and works wonder with women.

 

[Vixens]

I'm a western woman. Here is what i've learned, both in my own life and from what my girlfriends tell me.
Women want a man that is worthy of their RESPECT. Period. It doesn't matter to most of us if you drive a fancy car, or if you're 6 feet tall or if you make a gazillion dollars. We want to respect you. As MEN.
That means not being a douche. Complaining that the prettiest girl in the room won't look twice at you and using that as a reason to blame all western women makes you a douche. Flaunting your assets as a means to attract a woman makes you a douche. Expecting a woman to be subservient because you have a penis makes you a douche. Playing games makes you a douche.
Be a real person who wants to share your life with an equal. Not a pair of tits. Look for someone who makes you happy....again, not because of tits. Want someone who you respect and be worthy of her respect. It's really that simple. Realize though that it needs to be earned ( and no, not just for you, she needs to earn it too ).
If this isn't what you want then by all means go to Thailand. Find your perceived perfection and please, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Steph

 

[VIPhunter]

And what happens when you give a woman who usually gets no attention ...some attention, she begins to feel special and feel needed for once, she thinks about the encounter and thinks that there could be more there. The game of baiting the prettier one with the show of interest on the less prettier one is sort of malicious in one way because it ignores any and all feelings the not so pretty girl may have..I can see why women are more guarded these days.

You guys are crazy. I talk to a woman. Can I help it, that her prettier friend feels so entitled to every dollop of attention that she feels the need to come on to me?

This is not the male's problem. This is a female problem.

Should I feel guilty that women betray their friends?

 

[FOOTSNIFFER]

says the man and his comrades who are unable to attract a woman

why do you attack or insult someone rather than addressing their arguments with some substance. I have a woman yet I agree with exotic spirit and plan B completely. They're not bitter, just perceptive.

 

[canada-man]

why do you attack or insult someone rather than addressing their arguments with some substance. I have a woman yet I agree with exotic spirit and plan B completely. They're not bitter, just perceptive.

saying that toronto women are no good because you are single and unable to attract one is not an argument.

 

[FOOTSNIFFER]

saying that toronto women are no good because you are single and unable to attract one is not an argument.

haha...now I see the problem, your reading comprehension skills are not up to snuff. The women in this city are getting a rep for being pretty shitty...I used to discuss this with my buddies around a decade ago, no less. Go to any number of any (real) countries in the world if you want to see how real, feminine women behave around men. And let me suggest that you pay attention when you're there. Canadians are so bloody insecure when criticized....too funny.

 

[whobee]

I'm a western woman. Here is what i've learned, both in my own life and from what my girlfriends tell me.
Women want a man that is worthy of their RESPECT. Period. It doesn't matter to most of us if you drive a fancy car, or if you're 6 feet tall or if you make a gazillion dollars. We want to respect you. As MEN.
That means not being a douche. Complaining that the prettiest girl in the room won't look twice at you and using that as a reason to blame all western women makes you a douche. Flaunting your assets as a means to attract a woman makes you a douche. Expecting a woman to be subservient because you have a penis makes you a douche. Playing games makes you a douche.
Be a real person who wants to share your life with an equal. Not a pair of tits. Look for someone who makes you happy....again, not because of tits. Want someone who you respect and be worthy of her respect. It's really that simple. Realize though that it needs to be earned ( and no, not just for you, she needs to earn it too ).
If this isn't what you want then by all means go to Thailand. Find your perceived perfection and please, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Steph

I went out with a woman from eharmony last month. It was our first time meeting and she wanted to know about my income tax return. Her respect would be proportionate to my bank account. To be fair she was Sri Lankan and not born in NA. I've also met other women who were game players. Can't paint all women the same way. They're all after different things.

 

[canada-man]

haha...now I see the problem, your reading comprehension skills are not up to snuff. The women in this city are getting a rep for being pretty shitty...I used to discuss this with my buddies around a decade ago, no less. Go to any number of any (real) countries in the world if you want to see how real, feminine women behave around men. And let me suggest that you pay attention when you're there. Canadians are so bloody insecure when criticized....too funny.

again you are using the same "women in this city are shitty" argument. all you are doing is repeating yourself. seek a relationship councilor/ therapist the problem is you. the so called real countries you talk about are not better despite the your buddies think. all you are going to get is gold diggers who only want western predominantly white men for their money and a quick shortcut to Canadian or western citizenship. an example is a judge judy episode where a man suing his Russian ex for deception after she dumped him when she get a green card. I posted this in a thread titled "from Russia with love" That is your future.

 

[ExoticSpirit]

again you are using the same "women in this city are shitty" argument. all you are doing is repeating yourself. seek a relationship councilor/ therapist the problem is you. the so called real countries you talk about are not better despite the your buddies think. all you are going to get is gold diggers who only want western predominantly white men for their money and a quick shortcut to Canadian or western citizenship. an example is a judge judy episode where a man suing his Russian ex for deception after she dumped him when she get a green card. I posted this in a thread titled "from Russia with love" That is your future.

I know a guy in Montreal who was married to a Canadian-Polish girl for years. She was good looking but BOSSY AS HELL! They eventually split up and everyone saw that coming. He ended up going to Cuba and brought back a new wife. They have now been together for over 10 years.

Yes, the Cuban girl most definitely wanted to leave Cuba for a better life and the guy is quite wealthy. But I see nothing wrong with this. She has a much better life in Canada now AND doesn't boss the guy around. Sounds like a fair deal to me.

Some of you are still reading the key messages in this thread wrong. Many of us here have NO problems getting western women - heck, I just had a really pleasant date the other night with one. But listening to how this lady talks and her opinions, I certainly wouldn't want to have a serious relationship with her. It's just that some of us guys refuse to take all the attitude that most western women have adopted in recent years. Already had years in relationships where women here tried to constantly pussy whip me - no more!

 

[ExoticSpirit]

why do you attack or insult someone rather than addressing their arguments with some substance. I have a woman yet I agree with exotic spirit and plan B completely. They're not bitter, just perceptive.

These forums are for like minded members. Well, Canada-Man will soon realize that most of the members here are not like him.

 

[FOOTSNIFFER]

again you are using the same "women in this city are shitty" argument. all you are doing is repeating yourself. seek a relationship councilor/ therapist the problem is you. the so called real countries you talk about are not better despite the your buddies think. all you are going to get is gold diggers who only want western predominantly white men for their money and a quick shortcut to Canadian or western citizenship. an example is a judge judy episode where a man suing his Russian ex for deception after she dumped him when she get a green card. I posted this in a thread titled "from Russia with love" That is your future.

I'm in a LTR, thank you very much and my future is quite good in that respect. O.k., the foreign bride angle I agree with you about for sure...totally a bogus way to go about getting someone, especially with the laws we have here. Btw, everyone 'generalizes' when stating their opinion, otherwise no one would bother reading meticulously footnoted fact-supported posts. All I can say is do some traveling, my friend and you will have your eyes opened...unless you're comfortable in your illusions. In French they say you 'bercer ses illusions'...or that you cradle your illusions like a baby.

 

[canada-man]

These forums are for like minded members. Well, Canada-Man will soon realize that most of the members here are not like him.

yes i agree unlike some members here i don't have problem with western women. i would rather take relationship advice from the female members here on Terb like Vixen

 

[VIPhunter]

This is exactly what it is! Well said VIPHunter.

It's not out of any man's reach and works wonder with women.

I thank you, sir.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

You may be typical, but the majority of us CAN catch a break with western women.

Fixed.

Sorry to burst your self-pitying bubble. In fact, the vast majority of western men find successful partnerships with western women. There is no evidence to suggest that western men with immigrant spouses have a better marital track record and these relationships are certainly in the extreme minority.

If you have issues with Western women, you need to get that worked on. Don't pretend it's everyone else's problem too.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

Fat, short, on the wrong side of 40,

There's a wrong side?

The guy you quoted is on the side of 40 that has learned to be successful in spite of our imperfections rather than attacking others for their perceived failings. I'll take my experience over your youth any day. You'll agree with me but, unfortunately, not until you get some experience.

 

[canada-man]

looking foward to the next self-pitying thread