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This sad incident and other similar incidents is a sad reflection of our society. It shows how you can damage a person's character and reputation by constantly throwing mud at him (or her) and eventually some of the unwashed masses will believe you. Let's hope you or I never become the target of such character assassination.
I really don't know whether these, or other allegations against him are true or not.

But not one of these "scandals" that the Star has splashed across their pages has been proven. The public drunkenness, the ass grabbing, the substance abuse, the homophobic slurs, moving his property line...any one of them would have got him (rightfully) turfed from office. Every time another one comes out they say, "Oh this is it. He won't get out of this one." But he's still there.

Why? Because none of them have been proven. If they were true it would not have been hard to nail him because God knows, they've been trying damn hard and there have been so many of them. His performance of the duties of mayor may be up for debate, but these "scandals" are a joke, and bad ones at that.

Maybe his detractors are more incompetent than they paint him to be if they can't nail his fat ass given so many opportunities.

I'm not defending him because as I said, I don't know, but the vendetta is shameful. Don't like him? Vote him out. Making stuff up, which is what appears to be happening, is for sore losers.
 

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This sad incident and other similar incidents is a sad reflection of our society. It shows how you can damage a person's character and reputation by constantly throwing mud at him (or her) and eventually some of the unwashed masses will believe you. Let's hope you or I never become the target of such character assassination.
lol, ok I presume you're just stirring the pot?
 

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Globe's viewpoint:

This weekend, The Globe and Mail is publishing an extensive examination of the Toronto Ford family’s decades-old connection to illicit drugs. We are doing so with utmost caution, journalistic rigour and legal scrutiny – ultimately believing that Torontonians and, more broadly, Canadians need to understand the background of the most politically powerful family in the country’s biggest city.
Editor’s letter: Why we published the Ford family story
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/comm...lished-the-ford-family-story/article12152740/
 

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I'm still waiting for some actual proof on anything the Ford's have been accused of. Three people seeing a video in the back of a car or a report of Doug being a drug dealer as told by unnamed sources doesn't cut it for me. Unless we see the video and have the people making these accusations come forward with their testimony, it's all hearsay.

Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another person concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience. When submitted as evidence, such statements are called hearsay evidence. As a legal term, "hearsay" can also have the narrower meaning of the use of such information as evidence to prove the truth of what is asserted. Such use of "hearsay evidence" in court is generally not allowed. This prohibition is called the hearsay rule.
 

fijiman

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I'm still waiting for some actual proof on anything the Ford's have been accused of. Three people seeing a video in the back of a car or a report of Doug being a drug dealer as told by unnamed sources doesn't cut it for me. Unless we see the video and have the people making these accusations come forward with their testimony, it's all hearsay.
Three people witnessed the video. That is not heresy.

10 people recounted their first hand experiences to the Globe & Mail. That is not heresay.

You might want to reread the definition of "heresay" which you posted, as it clearly does not apply here.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Three people witnessed the video. That is not heresy.

10 people recounted their first hand experiences to the Globe & Mail. That is not heresay.

You might want to reread the definition of "heresay" which you posted, as it clearly does not apply here
You might wanna check your spelling too
 

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Whoops, there goes the right wing media now, too.
This investigation was purely by the Globe, no Star input, and the Globe has been a right wing sycophant for years now.
Time to start the pool on how long Ford can last.
I must have missed the big conversion the other day. When did the Globe and Mail announce that it now wants to be part of the "right-wing media"?
 

fmahovalich

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Well..as media outlets have suggested for Rob Ford....Doug Ford stepped up, admitted drug use 20 or 30 years ago...sold a few joints in High School.

now that is put to bed.


back to getting on respecting the tax payers with city business.
 

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Well..as media outlets have suggested for Rob Ford....Doug Ford stepped up, admitted drug use 20 or 30 years ago...sold a few joints in High School.

now that is put to bed.
Doug did alot more than sell a few joints in high school. And I didn't need the G&M article to tell me that.
 

fmahovalich

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But the media won't care..he stepped up, made a statement.

Put the peanut butter away, this story is over Emma!

Be real careful dc. Your statement is subject to scrutiny.
 
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jimmylikes

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Wow. Toronto is now the most embarrassing so called " world class city" on earth. Not because of Rob or Doug Ford, but because our media is a COMPLETE JOKE.
 

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I'm no Fan of Ford, the guy's a caricature, but I don't think I've ever seen a public figure get hammered so badly without any tangible evidence. Reminds me a little of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Contender_(2000_film)
You have to put it in context, he's a mayor who got fired from a volunteer football job that he used toronto resources on, failed in a casino, failed in ttc changes, failed in subways, voted against his own budget, lost council, lost his core support and continues to say idiotic, misinformed and racist comments.

Its just the straw that broke the big fucker's backers.
 

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I'm still waiting for some actual proof on anything the Ford's have been accused of. Three people seeing a video in the back of a car or a report of Doug being a drug dealer as told by unnamed sources doesn't cut it for me. Unless we see the video and have the people making these accusations come forward with their testimony, it's all hearsay.
Not only do they have to step forward, but also identify themselves. "Putting their money where their mouths are." Anyone can knock on a door and run away. If anyone wants to make an accusation, it better have concrete evidence of its veracity. Only then, can we take anything said as the truth. Allegations, without proof, do not amount to any more than the stuff bulls leave behind in the field. Grainy photos or videos do not cut it in a court of law. If the evidence exists, show it, and, if true, the accused will have to answer to the accusations and allegations. Quite simple, but not many believe in common sense, IMHO.
 

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You have to put it in context, he's a mayor who got fired from a volunteer football job that he used toronto resources on, failed in a casino, failed in ttc changes, failed in subways, voted against his own budget, lost council, lost his core support and continues to say idiotic, misinformed and racist comments.
I guess these reasons won't dissuade Ford supporters...
 

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lol, ok I presume you're just stirring the pot?
No, it is the Star and the loony liberal lefties that are stirring the pot. Their baseless accusations and tabloid journalism appeals to the worse of us. They suffer from "Jon Stewart Disease". Here is a brief definition of Jon Stewart disease.
1) Mocks other people.
2) Makes fun of other people.
3) Makes cruel jokes about other people.
 

simon482

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Three people witnessed the video. That is not heresy.

10 people recounted their first hand experiences to the Globe & Mail. That is not heresay.

You might want to reread the definition of "heresay" which you posted, as it clearly does not apply here.
i saw a video of you smoking crack and watched it with 2 other members here that i won't name. plus i talked to 10 other people that said they witnessed you smoking crack and dealing drugs. none of that is hearsay.
 

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hear·say
/ˈhi(ə)rˌsā/Noun
1.Information received from other people that cannot be adequately substantiated; rumour.
 

mur11

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No, it is the Star and the loony liberal lefties that are stirring the pot. Their baseless accusations and tabloid journalism appeals to the worse of us. They suffer from "Jon Stewart Disease". Here is a brief definition of Jon Stewart disease.
1) Mocks other people.
2) Makes fun of other people.
3) Makes cruel jokes about other people.
Jon Stewart is also politically astute, hilarious and intelligent
All things that you are not.
 
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