I notice some of the more introspective posters have given up discussing with you and I am joining them. When you disagree with empirical data, you should at least present evidence to the contrary. Just saying you disagree is not good enough. You did it earlier when I presented you with evidence that executive pay is not correlated to performance. Furthermore, you consistently misrepresent your opponent’s position, using double standards, and switching the loci of debate whenever cornered.
Do what you want there, teach
See what I mean? I want everybody to pay the full cost of health care, education, and other social spending as well, if eliminating the deficit is really the goal.
That will result in a two tier system with poor people not able to afford health care
Poor kids will be denied education (a rather shameful and selfish approach for an over compensated teacher)
I know that is not aligned with most Canadian's values
A more equitable solution is to control government spending now, by eliminating wasteful and excessive spending
With all due respect, you do come across as some kind of tin-pot demagogue on a personal crusade against teachers for some unspecified reason. Were you molested by one of them? I am really curious because this behavior is rather abnormal.
And you come across as a teacher with a agenda to continue extracting excess from the taxpayer
1. Strange comment about the molesting. For the record, No. That would have been dangerous for the teacher
2. If you were to gather opinion from people other than fellow teachers, you may begin to understand
a) We are taxed far too much. More than 50% in one form or another
b) Most rational people are infuriated if any of that tax is wasted or extorted by special interest groups
c) Most rational people do value an education and health care system
d) Most rational people expect the education system to place the interest of kids first and foremost.
Currently teachers place their so called collective bargaining rights ahead of the best interest of the kids, despite the fact they are compensated in the top 5-10% of all Canadians.
This is the hot button issue for me. It tells me this group will
i) Never back down from their objective to extract as much as possible without regard for what the province can afford
ii) Has zero respect for the average taxpayer
d) Most rational people expect compensation to be based on merit and to be reasonable relative to the private sector. No way it is comparable and bad teachers are protected
e) Most rational people understand compensation has to be sustainable. This is not the current case
3. I have watched unions destroy many industrial organizations and it boils my blood to see them driving up provincial debt, which I will have to pay for with higher taxes
4. I have yet to meet a teacher who is worth $83K / year, for a full year, let alone for 9 1/2 months
5. I can not believe the perks (paid for with my tax $)
which they take for granted
6. When told they must give up a ridiculous perk (banked sick days) they never should had in the first place , they respond like the gov't was stealing their first born and punish the students in reponse
For Christ sakes, teachers positions exist for the benefit of students,
Sadly teachers view their position as a path to an easy working life and excessive compensation
Understand now?
Why did I drag healthcare into the debate? It is one way for me to test the consistency of your position, and to figure out how much you really know what you are saying. It is also, like education policies, an area I know something about. I have done post-grad work in both areas.
Good for you
You should know, better than most, that the current comp is not sustainable and change to teachers compensation is necessary
