hired an escort, now i need help!!

[Vixens]

I like many SPs was abused as a child. I like many abused girls was volunteering at a shelter. I became intimately aware of the stories of dozens of sex trade workers. When I decided to accept the risks and problems of the industry as a viable path to getting out of debt I joined a few sex trade boards to get more insight on the financial aspects.

See now this I find really really annoying. I really get steamed when I hear the "she's working as an SP, so she must be broken" crap. Is the fact that you were abused as a child the reason you became a service provider? Or is it the fact that you volunteered at a shelter, heard the stories about the money you could make and utilized this industry as a way to get out of the hole you had dug yourself into?

In the almost 15 years I've been involved in this industry it has been rare that I've met someone who was abused as a child, although it does happen. It has NEVER been the reason they opted to become an SP.

By far the majority of women I've met ( and in 15 years there have been a lot ) have a very healthy attitude about this industry and the clients that they see. There are of course varying reasons for getting involved, the overwhelming one being money however, I've found that even with the money there is generally a noble goal. Paying off student loans, buying a place to live, traveling etc... and rarely about ( at least initially ) a Louis Vuiton purse or a fancy car ( may find out they can have both ). Like all industries in which someone makes a lot of money, enjoying that money will of course also go hand in hand. There's nothing wrong with that and as long as they don't lose light of their initial goals ( which can and does happen but does not make them "broken" ), this industry serves a purpose for all those involved. No doubt it can suck you in but so can making a couple of hundred in cash tips as a waitress. SP's are not all broken, money hungry, the world owes me something man haters. At least not more so than any other industry and less than some others lol.

"So yes, I am aware that not all sex workers are the same. I know that for many it is something they do because they just need the money. I know some enjoy it because they crave the attention. I know some have classic inferiority complexes that make them vulnerable and in need of continuous attention."

Every reason listed above has a negative connotation......and I'm sorry but it's bullshit. Perhaps you need to view it this way because you're broken but please, for the love of God, stop painting this industry with such a broad goddamn brush because after having only one client and then marrying that client you frankly haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Petzel]

See now this I find really really annoying. I really get steamed when I hear the "she's working as an SP, so she must be broken" crap. Is the fact that you were abused as a child the reason you became a service provider? Or is it the fact that you volunteered at a shelter, heard the stories about the money you could make and utilized this industry as a way to get out of the hole you had dug yourself into?

In the almost 15 years I've been involved in this industry it has been rare that I've met someone who was abused as a child, although it does happen. It has NEVER been the reason they opted to become an SP.

By far the majority of women I've met ( and in 15 years there have been a lot ) have a very healthy attitude about this industry and the clients that they see. There are of course varying reasons for getting involved, the overwhelming one being money however, I've found that even with the money there is generally a noble goal. Paying off student loans, buying a place to live, traveling etc... and rarely about ( at least initially ) a Louis Vuiton purse or a fancy car ( may find out they can have both ). Like all industries in which someone makes a lot of money, enjoying that money will of course also go hand in hand. There's nothing wrong with that and as long as they don't lose light of their initial goals ( which can and does happen but does not make them "broken" ), this industry serves a purpose for all those involved. No doubt it can suck you in but so can making a couple of hundred in cash tips as a waitress. SP's are not all broken, money hungry, the world owes me something man haters. At least not more so than any other industry and less than some others lol.

"So yes, I am aware that not all sex workers are the same. I know that for many it is something they do because they just need the money. I know some enjoy it because they crave the attention. I know some have classic inferiority complexes that make them vulnerable and in need of continuous attention."

Every reason listed above has a negative connotation......and I'm sorry but it's bullshit. Perhaps you need to view it this way because you're broken but please, for the love of God, stop painting this industry with such a broad goddamn brush because after having only one client and then marrying that client you frankly haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

I agree. This type of commentary only reinforces this stereotype.

 

[mrsCALoki]

See now this I find really really annoying. I really get steamed when I hear the "she's working as an SP, so she must be broken" crap. Is the fact that you were abused as a child the reason you became a service provider? Or is it the fact that you volunteered at a shelter, heard the stories about the money you could make and utilized this industry as a way to get out of the hole you had dug yourself into?

In the almost 15 years I've been involved in this industry it has been rare that I've met someone who was abused as a child, although it does happen. It has NEVER been the reason they opted to become an SP.

By far the majority of women I've met ( and in 15 years there have been a lot ) have a very healthy attitude about this industry and the clients that they see. There are of course varying reasons for getting involved, the overwhelming one being money however, I've found that even with the money there is generally a noble goal. Paying off student loans, buying a place to live, traveling etc... and rarely about ( at least initially ) a Louis Vuiton purse or a fancy car ( may find out they can have both ). Like all industries in which someone makes a lot of money, enjoying that money will of course also go hand in hand. There's nothing wrong with that and as long as they don't lose light of their initial goals ( which can and does happen but does not make them "broken" ), this industry serves a purpose for all those involved. No doubt it can suck you in but so can making a couple of hundred in cash tips as a waitress. SP's are not all broken, money hungry, the world owes me something man haters. At least not more so than any other industry and less than some others lol.

"So yes, I am aware that not all sex workers are the same. I know that for many it is something they do because they just need the money. I know some enjoy it because they crave the attention. I know some have classic inferiority complexes that make them vulnerable and in need of continuous attention."

Every reason listed above has a negative connotation......and I'm sorry but it's bullshit. Perhaps you need to view it this way because you're broken but please, for the love of God, stop painting this industry with such a broad goddamn brush because after having only one client and then marrying that client you frankly haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

As part of training to be a volunteer in a shelter you have to attend a "John School". Perhaps that has tainted my view. It also tainted my acceptance of pimps .

Re abuse, well of course it does not "make you a sex worker". I never said it did. It does remove an inhibitor.

Most girls have a natural inhibitor that makes them resist the idea of having sex with someone they do not find desirable. The more you do it, the more you get used to it and less those feelings inhibit you from doing it again.

Since most abused girls have already had sex, often many times, with someone they did not want to have touching them, the inhibition has been eroded.

Every time I admit I was abused and raped when I was a child I get a handful of PMs saying "wow, me to". Odd so few share that with you. I wonder why? < Sarcasm

I obviously elected to become an escort to pay off bills. It was a financial 'noble' motive by your definition. So I cannot fault others for doing the same.

Are all SPs broken? Of course not. Those with exit strategies that stick to them are in my opinion worthy of admiration.

It is just a job. It is an incredibly dificult job for most young women and the burn out rate is very high. Some have an exit strategy. Others do not.

It just happens to be HUGELY over represented in shelters.

 

[Ridgeman08]

or...

AMEN. I've been telling this woman that for months. She tells me I'm the only one here that feels this way and she gets dozens of PMs from these 'broken' girls patting her on the back and congratulating her for posting what they are too afraid to post. FINALLY someone else speaks up, thank you!!

I agree. This type of commentary only reinforces this stereotype.

Maybe, (as many have surmized) "she's" really a delusional "he", perpetuating the stereotype.

 

[mrsCALoki]

AMEN. I've been telling this woman that for months. She tells me I'm the only one here that feels this way and she gets dozens of PMs from these 'broken' girls patting her on the back and congratulating her for posting what they are too afraid to post. FINALLY someone else speaks up, thank you!!

Well I wish a few of the women here could summon the courage to say what they feel, but it would be bad for business. the entire concept that SPs are broken was brought up by an agency that needs to perpetuate the happy hooker idea, and by you.

Oh how inconvenient to notice that.

I accept that some of the old timers here like seeing men.

Oh wait, did you not go on about screening out the bad ones and not seeing the younger ones in previous posts? Guess that would help a lot. Harder for a young woman trying to pay the rent I guess.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Maybe, (as many have surmized) "she's" really a delusional "he", perpetuating the stereotype.

Well I used to post my pics in chat with a black dot over my nose And set up my week of bookings on MSN video so indeed you are doing the assumption thing without facts.

 

[Celticman]

I believe capitalguy

I'm willing to bet a lot of money this loki persona is just a troll job by some dude sitting in a basement somewhere.

It was revealed as such in a thread several months ago, that has of course since been deleted. Loki must have been drunk when he posted that thread but the Mrs thing was confirmed to be a sad man asking for help, who then (sadly) deleted the thread in which he asked for help. Ah well, the internet!

 

[Ridgeman08]

Well I used to post my pics in chat with a black dot over my nose And set up my week of bookings on MSN video so indeed you are doing the assumption thing without facts.

You saying (writing) this or anything else proves nothing. Just like anyone else spouting off what ever they want... no one has presented ANY facts. :hand:

I am not assuming anything. Just putting forth a viable opinion. (Or rather presenting one that has been presented already by a multitude of members...)

 

[Celticman]

you'd think by now that someone would have at least come forward to say they remember her picture in chat, or they remember booking with 'student' and then having her cancel on him... but nothing. Even with all the long time veterans that remember everything. Strange.

Ah, the challenge of trying to prove a negative

 

[Roger Thorpe]

I remember her pic in chat with the dot on her face .It was when she would PM me although have not met in personI have met Loki a couple a times and must say he was a classy gentleman in his late 50s and didnt seem like the type to play a game of pretend on here but like I said I only met him twice and he was just fine with me

 

[Celticman]

I remember her pic in chat with the dot on her face .It was when she would PM me although have not met in personI have met Loki a couple a times and must say he was a classy gentleman in his late 50s and didnt seem like the type to play a game of pretend on here but like I said I only met him twice and he was just fine with me

Was this before August 2012?

 

[Ridgeman08]

Was this before August 2012?

Beat me to it...

 

[Nate1]

I remember her pic in chat with the dot on her face .It was when she would PM me although have not met in personI have met Loki a couple a times and must say he was a classy gentleman in his late 50s and didnt seem like the type to play a game of pretend on here but like I said I only met him twice and he was just fine with me

Under what circumstance did you meet Loki twice? Some industry party, that others may have attended?

You are one voice in a strong wind and details will help.

 

[Vixens]

As part of training to be a volunteer in a shelter you have to attend a "John School". Perhaps that has tainted my view. It also tainted my acceptance of pimps .

1.Re abuse, well of course it does not "make you a sex worker". I never said it did. It does remove an inhibitor.

2.Most girls have a natural inhibitor that makes them resist the idea of having sex with someone they do not find desirable. The more you do it, the more you get used to it and less those feelings inhibit you from doing it again.

3.Since most abused girls have already had sex, often many times, with someone they did not want to have touching them, the inhibition has been eroded.

4.Every time I admit I was abused and raped when I was a child I get a handful of PMs saying "wow, me to". Odd so few share that with you. I wonder why? < Sarcasm

5.I obviously elected to become an escort to pay off bills. It was a financial 'noble' motive by your definition. So I cannot fault others for doing the same.

6.Are all SPs broken? Of course not. Those with exit strategies that stick to them are in my opinion worthy of admiration.

7a.It is just a job. 7b. It is an incredibly dificult job for most young women and the burn out rate is very high. Some have an exit strategy. Others do not.

8.It just happens to be HUGELY over represented in shelters.

I'll take on your points one by one.....

1. Abuse does not make you a sex worker. Agreed. You used it as an explanation as to why you got involved in the industry and then said that the majority of sex workers you came into contact with had also been abused. Therefore, it must be the reason you became a sex worker. God forbid sex workers should have a willingness to get into this line of work without having had a trauma in their past. That would simply make them....gasp...sex workers. 160/ per hour will certainly over come a lot of morality issues....just look at lawyers

2. What the hell does that even mean anyway??? You did it for money or was it that you had been abused?

3. I cannot speak to this as I've never been sexually abused. I'm sure its a very traumatic experience and would not wish it on anyone. As a mother, I would do serious damage to anyone who attempted to assault my children.

4. Fair enough, I cannot know who chooses to PM you or why. As for the ladies I've represented sharing that? Some have, and I'm sure some have not. I can tell you though that not one of the ladies I've discussed this with has allowed that experience to define them. Those also that have discussed it with me seem to have a much harder time with emotions and true caring for another as opposed to "pay for play". An intimate relationship becomes the hard part as I believe the abuser in a lot of cases was someone that should have looked out and cared for them, not tormented and took advantage.

5. Doing anything to improve your position in life is always noble in my book. Especially when you earn it yourself.

6. Agreed.

7a. No it is not. 7b. Sex workers wear a lot of hats. This makes the job challenging. Burn out can and does happen but you're generalizing again. Not everyone, not even a majority in my experience, who leaves the industry does so for burn out. Some reach their goals and move on.

8. I'm sure that it is. But I believe that that represents a smaller minority and I believe that based on 15 years in the industry.

 

[mrsCALoki]

I believe capitalguy

You are a jerk of a remarkable skill set. You keet quoting the same things over and over.... so lets quote the entire thing shall we?

I'm willing to bet a lot of money this loki persona is just a troll job by some dude sitting in a basement somewhere.

Oh oh I will take that bet. We can get a lawyer to hold both our bets and give the money to the winner

But lets make it worth my while. How about $100,000? What will you accept as proof? I would never provide it to you but I will to a responsible lawyer.

Oh and loser pays legal costs

Any lawyer recommended by the Upper Canada guys will be ok. This is simple, you put in your $100,000 if you are right you double it. Or if I do not match your funds etc at worse you get bragging rights to having humiliated me on Terb, proven your point, ad gotten rid of me. Simple. Easy.

Think of the glory! Now put up or shut up.



Want me to pick a lawyer?

Then the blow hard shut up.

Unlike Celticman who keeps quoting the first lime over and over again. What are you up to celticboy? 3 or 4 times so far?

Do you think repeating the "me to" posting of a guy with out even the ethics to honor a bet to make it true?

1 of 2 posts.

 

[Vixens]

Well I wish a few of the women here could summon the courage to say what they feel, but it would be bad for business. the entire concept that SPs are broken was brought up by an agency that needs to perpetuate the happy hooker idea, and by you.

Oh how inconvenient to notice that.

I accept that some of the old timers here like seeing men.

Oh wait, did you not go on about screening out the bad ones and not seeing the younger ones in previous posts? Guess that would help a lot. Harder for a young woman trying to pay the rent I guess.

I can't speak for SPJ here but maybe she just enjoys her work?? As for having to tow the happy hooker line....sorry Mrs. Loki but I call bullshit again. You were the one that brought up a very erroneous and sweeping generalization. I'm starting to think that you get your information on the industry from television docudramas as opposed to any actual and relevant experience.

The only thing I need to prove as an agency owner is that I value our clients business. Happy clients are repeat clients. Happy Sp's ensure happy clients. It's just good economics and you can't really have one without the other.

I do resent on SPJs behalf though the suble insult. Really Mrs. Loki, resorting to that nonsense should be beneath one who holds herself in such esteem.

 

[mrsCALoki]

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Post # 92 03-03-2013, 01:49 PM

An now the identical quotes in:

I believe capitalguy

Post #100 03-04-2013, 12:35 PM

I already responded to this foolishness:

Do you have any point at all…

Re the Capital Guy, IF such a statement had existing all the jerk off boys would have made a fuss about it instantly. No one mentioned it ever except after Capital Guys delusional post several months later.
So do you have a point other than being a "me to" tag along guy?

Same answer to the same quote

2 of 2

 

[mrsCALoki]

I like many SPs was abused as a child. I like many abused girls was volunteering at a shelter. ...

See now this I find really really annoying. I really get steamed when I hear the "she's working as an SP, so she must be broken" crap. Is the fact that you were abused as a child the reason you became a service provider?

Re abuse, well of course it does not "make you a sex worker". I never said it did. It does remove an inhibitor.
Most girls have a natural inhibitor that makes them resist the idea of having sex with someone they do not find desirable. The more you do it, the more you get used to it and less those feelings inhibit you from doing it again.
Since most abused girls have already had sex, often many times, with someone they did not want to have touching them, the inhibition has been eroded.

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2. What the hell does that even mean anyway??? You did it for money or was it that you had been abused?

I forgot the first thing they taught me at the shelter. Never try to have a discussion with a pimp / people who are living of the girls. They are master manipulators.
Your logic would imply that I was also putting down all shelter volunteers and claiming that being abused forced you to become a shelter worker. Pure bogus logic.
Anyway, I do not wish to chat with you . I dislike people putting words in my mouth.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Was this before August 2012?

NO ONE has seem pictures or videos of me since early 2011. I would not disrespect Loki by sharing them

 

[mrsCALoki]

Under what circumstance did you meet Loki twice? Some industry party, that others may have attended?

You are one voice in a strong wind and details will help.

What does Lord Loki seeing people from TERB have to do with me being me?

If you search the archives before we got involved in late 2010 Lord Loki had already been involved with Terb. Several SPs have met him. A few made a big deal that he had spent mid 5 figures on them. So how can any sane person doubt he exists and is a whale?