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Good Samaritan from Barrie stabbed by Black guy on TTC Subway

ogibowt

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i say it again, and also for John henry...the OP, has a history of race baiting, and trolling topics regarding race relations..im only the messenger, dont shoot me...if all 3 of you, Simon, Henry and Connery , who are self appointed sherriffs and know it alls on Terb, actually acted as such and checked his posting history, you may react differently to his post....however like most windbags neither of you will bother...
 

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i say it again, and also for John henry...the OP, has a history of race baiting, and trolling topics regarding race relations..im only the messenger, dont shoot me...if all 3 of you, Simon, Henry and Connery , who are self appointed sherriffs and know it alls on Terb, actually acted as such and checked his posting history, you may react differently to his post....however like most windbags neither of you will bother...
and there you go with the insulting again. what is the problem with saying a black guy stabbed another guy when in fact a black guy stabbed another guy ?. do i need to go research his posting history to see that in fact a black guy stabbed a guy in barrie ?

you are the one telling us to go do this and that while being insulting. like you are the forum police.
 

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i say it again, and also for John henry...the OP, has a history of race baiting, and trolling topics regarding race relations..im only the messenger, dont shoot me...if all 3 of you, Simon, Henry and Connery , who are self appointed sherriffs and know it alls on Terb, actually acted as such and checked his posting history, you may react differently to his post....however like most windbags neither of you will bother...

Dude, you think I am going to go back and read everyone's years of posting to create a profile?





On its face, was his post racist or factual?

Is it not YOU exhibiting prejudice towards the OP?
 

John Henry

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I see no problem in saying the guy is black , because he is black . Now if the attempted murder was white or Asian I wouldn't have any problem saying that as well . :)
 

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Black guy chiming in here: there is nothing wrong with describing the perpetrator as a black male in the body of the article (as this one does, it is known fact), but including it in the TITLE does tend to lead people to cultivating negative mental associations.

I looked at the article in the link, and you will notice that the papers usually take great care not to mention ethnicity in the titles of their articles for crimes/tragedies for this precise reason: people love to jump to stereotypes. Including the ethnicity in the title makes things prematurely inflammatory/divisive and can prejudice the reader before they've even read the article. Better for them to read it through, digest whatever facts are contained therein, and then make their own conclusions/associations...

You'll never see "White Canadian tourist taken hostage", it will just say "Canadian tourist taken hostage"; nor will you see "Indian child gone missing in Markham", it will just say "Child gone missing in Markham".

Subtly adjusting our language can help us minimize unintentional biases. Similar to the whole he/she "gender neutrality in expression" movement that took place a couple of decades back (when I was in high school).
 

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Description also doesn't seem necessary in the Title when the identity of the suspect is known. The real issue now is how the hell did he get probation if he has ( as implied by the article ) a short fuse and possibly a chip on his shoulder.
 

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I looked at the article in the link, and you will notice that the papers usually take great care not to mention ethnicity in the titles of their articles for crimes/tragedies for this precise reason: people love to jump to stereotypes.
It is considered scandalous in this city to point out that the gangsters are overwhelmingly black. We are supposed to try and solve all these problems while ignoring who is doing the crime, as though it were somehow true that white, asian, and black kids were equally likely to wind up shooting somebody.
 

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It's not his fault. If someone were to bring a lion and set it free and the lion would harm someone would you blame the lion? Same thing here, blame those who brought him or his ancestors here.
 

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It's not his fault. If someone were to bring a lion and set it free and the lion would harm someone would you blame the lion? Same thing here, blame those who brought him or his ancestors here.
Depends...is the lion a black dude?
 

Celticman

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i say it again, and also for John henry...the OP, has a history of race baiting, and trolling topics regarding race relations..im only the messenger, dont shoot me...if all 3 of you, Simon, Henry and Connery , who are self appointed sherriffs and know it alls on Terb, actually acted as such and checked his posting history, you may react differently to his post....however like most windbags neither of you will bother...
What a good idea to weigh the value of a post against the posting history of the poster. If anyone looks at ogibowt's posting history they will see page after page of nastiness, rudeness, provocation (read trolling) and virtually nothing nice. Devoid of anything resembling civility, humour or interest in fellow human beings. Spending all that time on an escort review board simply spilling vitriol. A truly spiritually bankrupt person. Must be an unmitigated joy to know him in real life. An excellent suggestion on his part to weigh the value of a post against the posting history of the poster. A wonderful contribution from ogibowt.
 
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Description also doesn't seem necessary in the Title when the identity of the suspect is known. The real issue now is how the hell did he get probation if he has ( as implied by the article ) a short fuse and possibly a chip on his shoulder.
He looks drugged out in the photos.
And where were the $100K +/ yr SPECIAL TTC "Constables" while all this was happening ?
 

simon482

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Good idea to weigh the value of a post against the posting history of the poster. If anyone looks at ogibowt's posting history they will see page after page of nastiness, rudeness, provocation (read trolling) and virtually nothing nice. Spending all that time on an escort review board simply spilling vitriol. A truly spiritually bankrupt person. Must be a real joy to know him in real life. An excellent suggestion to weigh the value of a post against the posting history of the poster. A valuable contribution from ogibowt.
 

Celticman

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He looks drugged out in the photos.
And where were the $100K +/ yr SPECIAL TTC constables while all this was happening ?
If memory serves, they used to have a habit of secreting themselves away to write up bogus tickets on bogus homeless men.
 

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Interesting article in the papers to-day. York Region police officer Dameian Muirhead is facing misconduct charges for not investigating racial taunts by a member of a drunken mob of partygoers. The victim of the racial taunts is Officer Muirhead.
 

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If anyone looks at ogibowt's posting history they will see page after page of nastiness, rudeness, provocation (read trolling) and virtually nothing nice.
Sir, you call a spade a bloody shovel. So sad, that guy is such a loser. His only talent is personal attacks and insults.
 

Smash

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Black guy chiming in here: there is nothing wrong with describing the perpetrator as a black male in the body of the article (as this one does, it is known fact), but including it in the TITLE does tend to lead people to cultivating negative mental associations.

I looked at the article in the link, and you will notice that the papers usually take great care not to mention ethnicity in the titles of their articles for crimes/tragedies for this precise reason: people love to jump to stereotypes. Including the ethnicity in the title makes things prematurely inflammatory/divisive and can prejudice the reader before they've even read the article. Better for them to read it through, digest whatever facts are contained therein, and then make their own conclusions/associations...

You'll never see "White Canadian tourist taken hostage", it will just say "Canadian tourist taken hostage"; nor will you see "Indian child gone missing in Markham", it will just say "Child gone missing in Markham".

Subtly adjusting our language can help us minimize unintentional biases. Similar to the whole he/she "gender neutrality in expression" movement that took place a couple of decades back (when I was in high school).
+1 Well said.. I also agree with ogibowt in stating that it sounds like "race bating".
 

james t kirk

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The guy is black. It's not racist to point out that he is black. It is simply stating a fact.

But anyway, I'm confident the cops will catch this idiot. He's too stupid not to get caught.

The problem is that nothing will happen to him. He'll get probation (again) or maybe a "hug a thug" program.

I just hope I don't cross paths with him.
 
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