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Now if you really a right wing person then put your support for Rob Ford by declaring your verbal support for rob ford.
A lot of right wing people I know seem to believe in the rule of law. Ford's more of a buffoon than a conservative, and I'd describe his supporters more as dupes than right wingers, at this point.
 

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just a question, i don't follow or care about local toronto politics. who the mayor is doesn't really matter to me on any level at all.

my question is, is rob ford actually as bad as people say he is or is this the same as the crazy shit that is based on nothing that i hear about obama ?
 

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I am trying to figure this out. I do not agree with Jennifer but I would say that paying taxes is both a left and right wing virtue, and not a perogative of either side of the spectrum. On a somewhat lighter side, if you feel strongly about SP tax avoidance, please refrain from being part of the problem by not spending any more money on them :D
What i am trying to say is when you dont paid all of your taxes by not declaring all of your income and trying to get ahead in life by working in the underground economy .. Jennifer's real actions really shows that she fed up with the leftwing govenments who like to tax and spend all of your money recklesslly. Rob ford saved toronto taxpayers over 100 million dollars ( garbage saving ).
 

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Why didn't the judge slap him with a $20,000 fine instead of firing him. How much will a new election going to cost us?
 

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What i am trying to say is when you dont paid all of your taxes by not declaring all of your income and trying to get ahead in life by working in the underground economy .. Your real actions really shows that your fed up with the leftwing govenments who like to tax and spend all of your money recklesslly.
Buddy, you have to learn when you are being bullshitted. Right-wingers get elected on the pitch that the lefties are all arrogant, over-educated incompetents who drink chardonnay while going to poetry readings and who know nothing about really running a country, province or city. The right-wingers themselves - so they tell us - are down to earth beer drinkers who watch hockey on TV and could run everything under the sun at half the cost the lefty will charge and twice as efficiently.

Sure. And I got a bridge over the East River in Brooklyn I could sell you. Cheap.
 

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You realized your an oxyomoron.
For a person who is talked left wing but your actions indicate you are a truly a right wing persons.
. . Examples working in the illegal underground economy with a very high probablities not declaring all you income earned illegally to Canada Revenue Agency. If you are truly a left wing person then you should talk the talk and walk the walk. Another word proof that you are a really left wing...You should paid all your taxes and declare all your income to Canada Revenue Agency. Now if you really a right wing person then put your support for Rob Ford by declaring your verbal support for rob ford.
... hmmm

I'm an intelligent WOMAN who is also in the sex trade. I have gay friends, I live downtown, I care about my city.

I have had "real" jobs.... I'll have "real jobs" in the future. I Pay taxes, I watch city council debates.... I follow city politics closer than most - without question.

I think I know how I lean politically.

I do what I do but I (and every other girl in my "profession") would find another profession if our income was slashed by taxes. I wont apologize for my income.

I just gotta scratch my head and laugh at how you equate tax evasion as a right wing trait. Lol - gawd - the guy lost his job bc he's corrupt and sketchy. You simply are highlighting the reason why us pinkos dislike him. Rob Ford lost his job because of his corrupt and sketchy decisions.
 

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Buddy, you have to learn when you are being bullshitted. Right-wingers get elected on the pitch that the lefties are all arrogant, over-educated incompetents who drink chardonnay while going to poetry readings and who know nothing about really running a country, province or city. The right-wingers themselves - so they tell us - are down to earth beer drinkers who watch hockey on TV and could run everything under the sun at half the cost the lefty will charge and twice as efficiently.

Sure. And I got a bridge over the East River in Brooklyn I could sell you. Cheap.


By definition of leftwingers like Miller allies expected that the taxpayer paid for eveything just tax and spend and wasteful spending...like no tomorrow. And expect me as a Taxpayer to paid for everything whereas I am poorer for this. Look at McGunity government & Miller governments just tax and waste blews billion of dollar this are my hard earned money(eHealth, organe scandels, Power Plant cancellation , etc). Why dont you go buy Brookyln bridge from me if you believe all the crap from the leftwinger selling to you which you obviously believe in them. I want is responsible government who realy care about the taxpayers. Treat the taxes you taxes from me as hard earned money According what i heard from city tv new which George Mammoliti quoted that , Rob Ford saved Toronto city 600 million dollars.
 

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... hmmm

I'm an intelligent WOMAN who is also in the sex trade. I have gay friends, I live downtown, I care about my city.

I have had "real" jobs.... I'll have "real jobs" in the future. I Pay taxes, I watch city council debates.... I follow city politics closer than most - without question.

I think I know how I lean politically.

I do what I do but I (and every other girl in my "profession") would find another profession if our income was slashed by taxes. I wont apologize for my income.

I just gotta scratch my head and laugh at how you equate tax evasion as a right wing trait. Lol - gawd - the guy lost his job bc he's corrupt and sketchy. You simply are highlighting the reason why us pinkos dislike him. Rob Ford lost his job because of his corrupt and sketchy decisions.
According George Mammolties on citytv Rob Ford saved city of Toronto $600 million dollars. There is a high probabities ..You dont paid all your taxes. You paid some taxes. You dont declared all your incomes(illegall) earned to Revenue Canada. Whereas as me I paid all my taxes since I cannot work in the underground economy. Whereas you can. Leftwing people in that spectrum like you and your pinkos friends expected governments to tax and spend without consideration how much harm it does to the average taxpayer...who like me are really fed up working about half of year to paid off the taxes. Tax freedom day is july 1. That mean half of my incomes goes into paying all form of taxes(GST, payroll taxes,Fed taxes, Prov tax, Municpal taxes, incomes taxes, Garbage bag taxes or user fees , etc) . After July 1 the rest of my income I earned goes to me.
What I am trying to equates is that leftwing people like you and your pinkos friends expect the government to tax and spend without taking into consideration of how much they are hurting the average taxpayer like me. I am so fed up of paying so much in taxes. Just trying to get ahead in life. And enjoy my hard earned money...Not to lose it to wasteful spending life wing governments...in form of ehealth scandal, organe scandal, powerplant cancellation, etc. Is too much to ask for responsible governments who respect your hard earned money?

PS, When you dont declare all your income to Revenue Canada that means i am subsidizing you...that means you are not paying your fair share of taxes. When you are left wing person it basically you care about the other poorer people who are in that end of spectrum and expect the goverment to help them out..and be also happy paiding your taxes to help the other poor people in the other end of spectrum. This is what I figured what a leftwinger goverment or leftwinger person is.

PPS. Yes I know you 100% lean left by your talking and posting on terb...but your action indicates you lean right . ( Right winger hates paying lots of taxes and spend governments...they want to paid less in taxes and smaller governments and no wasteful spending). Too me when you are a right wing person you are basically want to paid less taxes and want no wasteful spenidng like eHealth, etc.). Since your action indicates you hid some of your income and dont paid your full amount of taxes means you are actually start to lean right. Are you a hypocrite?

On a final note:
All I know when you are young your are basically leftwing want to help everyone and saved the world . As you grow older, you poltically view moves from left to center then to finally to right wing of the politcally spectrum..this happens to most of my friends and co-workers which I noticed. I wont be at all surprised in 20 years from now Jennifer your poltically specturm will moved toward the far right .
 
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Council will not, and cannot remove Ford from the Mayors Chair for 14 days.

they may vote...but Rob is Mayor for minimum 14 more days.

during that time he will file for leave to appeal.

if successful, he remains Mayor beyond the 14 days!

until, the hearing of the appeal is complete.

i suspect, Ford will be Mayor til the end of his previously elected term..
 

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Council will not, and cannot remove Ford from the Mayors Chair for 14 days.

they may vote...but Rob is Mayor for minimum 14 more days.

during that time he will file for leave to appeal.

if successful, he remains Mayor beyond the 14 days!

until, the hearing of the appeal is complete.

i suspect, Ford will be Mayor til the end of his previously elected term..

I doubt it going happens . They will move to removed Rob Ford. Leftwings Council already trying to get their pinkos friends like Adam Vaughan to be Mayour of Toronto. It all going to shit. They are all moving in the backroom deal trying to get their person into the Mayour seats. PS The best outcome I can hope for is Holdays become Mayour of Toronto. All I want is a fiscally responsible goverments and not keep taxing me to death. I see holidays is a good person who really care about the taxpayer money.
 

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A mayor is elected by the people. A mayor is not appointed by ONE person as would be the case for Holyday-Holyday was given the job by Ford. He has no legitimate claim to the chain of office. The former mayor was removed from office because of a lack of integrity. Ask yourself honestly, would you feel comfortable with anyone who was hand-picked by a person who the courts, after a long and objective examination of the facts, found to be lacking integrity? Would you do business with a person who was recommended to you by a person who authorities said lacked integrity? This is my point. And yes, when it comes to politics, business, and friends, I know that birds of a feather flock together.

If Holyday wants to be mayor, he should have to earn it through an election. And if you want him to be mayor, then vote for him.
Holyday is by all accounts a decent guy and probably has been the one moving the current agenda forward.

You can thank Holyday for coming up with an agreement with the unions and no strike, you can thank him for any money the city is saving, for reducing the budget, and most of all for contracting out Garbage Collection.
 

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There is an abandoning of the shipwreck named Ford going on.

Mammoliti has resigned from the executive committee. Minzall-Wong is nowhere to be seen nor heard.

Council will motion to have either Carrol, Vaughan or Mihevic voted on a acting mayor.....maybe as early as tomorrow. Holyday is a non-factor. A by-election is not in play.

Ford's vacant seat will be filled....but not by Ford.

Ford will resign as mayor. I cannot see any councillor supporting him in his current state.
 

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Yes I do. A much nicer guy, BUT for sure he has blundered with his rough edges. But I would sooner be in a fox hole with Rob than Adam Vaughn. Or have a beer etc.
1. There would not be enough room in a foxhole for anyone else once Ford wedeged his way into it.
2. "Ford is removed from a Maple Leafs game after shouting insulting comments at other fans. A man had reportedly asked Ford to be quiet, so the councillor, who later admitted to being drunk, said something cordial like "Who the fuck do you think you are? Are you a fucking teacher?... Do you want your little wife to go over to Iran and get raped and shot?" "
3. "For the second time in as many months, police officers were called to Mayor Rob Ford's Etobicoke home about a reported domestic dispute, the Toronto Star reports.
Ford's mother-in-law made the call Christmas Day between 4 a.m. and 5 a.m., claiming the mayor had been drinking and was taking his children to Florida against the wishes of his wife, Renata, the newspaper reported Friday."

This drunk belligerent abusive asshole is a guy you want to have a beer with?

What I compare being mayor to, is swimming with the sharks. And if he could be on city council for a decade and be too lazy to ever bother to read the regulations about conflict of interest...it's his own fault at the end of the day

He is a fucking piece of shit. I hope he loses the other court case too.
 

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1. There would not be enough room in a foxhole for anyone else once Ford wedeged his way into it.
2. Ford is removed from a Maple Leafs game after shouting insulting comments at other fans. A man had reportedly asked Ford to be quiet, so the councillor, who later admitted to being drunk, said something cordial like "Who the fuck do you think you are? Are you a fucking teacher?... Do you want your little wife to go over to Iran and get raped and shot?"
3. For the second time in as many months, police officers were called to Mayor Rob Ford's Etobicoke home about a reported domestic dispute, the Toronto Star reports.
Ford's mother-in-law made the call Christmas Day between 4 a.m. and 5 a.m., claiming the mayor had been drinking and was taking his children to Florida against the wishes of his wife, Renata, the newspaper reported Friday.

This drunk belligerent abusive asshole is a guy you think would be a good drinking buddy?
Mayour Rob Ford did lots of good works... he saved city of Toronto $600 million dollars. Name me any Mayour of Toronto did that! I guess you rather have some smart and smooth politcans like Miller or Smitherman or McGunity to screw you by wasting your hard earned taxpayer money by taxing you to death.
 

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Mayour Rob Ford did lots of good works... he saved city of Toronto $600 million dollars. Name me any Mayour of Toronto did that! I guess you rather have some smart and smooth politcans like Miller or Smitherman or McGunity to screw you by wasting your hard earned taxpayer money by taxing you to death.
mayor. for the love of fuck it's mayor. i won't bother correcting the rest of it since i am guessing you are still learning the language but the way you spell mayor just drives me nuts. mayor...mayor...mayor...got it ?
 

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This city is a fucking joke. And then we wonder why all other Canadians hate us. We're controlled by a retarded left.
 

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mayor. for the love of fuck it's mayor. i won't bother correcting the rest of it since i am guessing you are still learning the language but the way you spell mayor just drives me nuts. mayor...mayor...mayor...got it ?
Simon, I did not know you one of those type of people a "Grammar Nazi" ,. I spell it out correctly for you " M A Y O R".:biggrin1:
 

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Simon, I did not know you one of those type of people whcih your are a "grammar Nazi" , I spell out correctly for you " M A Y O R".:biggrin1:
i'm really not. the rest of the mistakes don't bug me i can still figure out everything you are trying to say. it's just that one thing that was driving me crazy. like throw a kitten at a baby type crazy.
 

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Why didn't the judge slap him with a $20,000 fine instead of firing him. How much will a new election going to cost us?
I agree that would have been much better. The answer is the law as written does not allow the judge to do that. Once found in violation the judge's only options were to kick Ford out of office and ban him from politics for 7 years, or simply kick him out of office. It's a good example of the problem with "mandatory minimum" sentences--the minimum here is kicked out of office.
 

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If the judge had full discretion instead of having to impose a minimum sentence (kicked out of office) I think a creative penalty would have been best. Instead of removing him from office require him to walk up and down queen street in front of city hall for a full 8 hours on a Saturday wearing a sandwich board sign that reads "I cheated the taxpayers of Toronto" on one side, and "I wrongly believed I was above the law" on the other.

That would have been a fitting penalty for the crime.
 
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