Afgan women disrupt Rememberance day ceremonies

mrsCALoki

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I think they are referring to the election of the first term of George Bush II. Maybe they prefer the last election of Saddam who got 99% of the popular vote.
Probably. I sort of think that a lot of the world sees American political system as a black box. One that apparently conveys the god given right to assassinate the leaders of other governments at their discretion. Or is it just that god bless America is a simple fact of life.
 

Rockslinger

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One that apparently conveys the god given right to assassinate the leaders of other governments at their discretion.
Illegal under American law. That is why Saddam lasted so long.

Speaking of Hong Kong, one of the most successful societies on Earth on a land mass smaller than the Gaza Strip. It is people, not land, that make successful societies.
 

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I will report that. :)

So current results are over 122 million out of 311,591,917 voted in the election, and Obama got a little under 61 million ?

And that means he has it :) got it.
Obama = 62,611,250 popular votes
Romney = 59,134,475 popular votes

Yes, this doesn't represent the "majority" of Americans. But your ill-informed "friend" was wondering why "the guy who had fewer people vote for him got to be president this time." This is inaccurate... He had more people vote for him than the other guy..
 

mrsCALoki

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Obama = 62,611,250 popular votes
Romney = 59,134,475 popular votes

Yes, this doesn't represent the "majority" of Americans. But your ill-informed "friend" was wondering why "the guy who had fewer people vote for him got to be president this time." This is inaccurate... He had more people vote for him than the other guy..

And how many voted in total?

Next time we see him I will let him know. I wonder if he was indeed referring to the most recent election. Oh well. My point was that many around the world are not impressed by the US dedication to things.
 

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One of my friends asked me about democracy in US. They were confused why the guy who had fewer people vote for him got to be president this time. And why a few years ago the judges appointed by the administration ruled who would be president instead of recounting the votes.
Most importantly because the U.S.A. is a federal union, hence it is states which matter in such things. We could go on from there but I'm not sure of the marginal utility of my doing so*.

*Such as the recount paid for by the Washington Post and the New York Times which showed that in the 2000 election in Florida in fact President Bush recieved the most votes.


Iraq actually. 2003. And as far as she was concerned it was simply an invasion and life went down hill for everyone there.
I can see her point. However, although I should know better. . . . .

Remember the repeated efforts of Saddam's Government to use SAMs to shoot down aircraft enforcing the Northern and Southern No Fly Zones.

Regarding the Second Gulf War, things were different the first few months after the occupation of Iraq then they were later.

Most of the problems were due to Civilian Leaders failing to pay attention to the Military. Indeed the force sent was more than adequate to defeat the Iraqi Military, however it was not sufficient to adequately occupy Iraq. That indeed was wrong and lives were lost due to it.
 

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Indeed the force sent was more than adequate to defeat the Iraqi Military, however it was not sufficient to adequately occupy Iraq.
Should have come home once it was determined there were no WMD and Saddam was captured. Staying there was like putting a target on your back.
 

Aardvark154

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Should have come home once it was determined there were no WMD and Saddam was captured. Staying there was like putting a target on your back.
However, it is a principle of the Law of War that basically "you break it you bought it." You can't just occupy a state and then without doing anything to attempt to create a stable government take your marbles and go home.
 

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However, it is a principle of the Law of War that basically "you break it you bought it." You can't just occupy a state and then without doing anything to attempt to create a stable government take your marbles and go home.
We did in Gulf War I. Where is this "Law" that you state?
 

Rockslinger

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Much of it is customary law. However also:

The Hague Convention of 1907;
The Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949;
The Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 1977
Shoot, do the Russians know this? I heard when they invaded Afghanistan in 1980, they simply killed 2 million Afghans.
 

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Shoot, do the Russians know this? I heard when they invaded Afghanistan in 1980, they simply killed 2 million Afghans.
It is the problem of being a democratic state, you try to do the right thing and are criticized left, right and sideways, while nondemocratic states get away with just about anything. One doesn't have to stray from the pages of TERB to see the principle in action.
 

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Just disrespectful and cowardly. If they dont agree then dont go to the ceremony. Plain and simple, and if you dont like that then go back to your homeland and live.

If you dont stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them!!

Between this and the idiots that desicrated the war memorial, a bunch of morons. Why couldnt a real Canadian catch this creep in the act and kick the living the crap out of them. I know I would have boot stomped the fucker, and used their blood to clean off the magic marker. Just makes me sick to my stomache.
Right on.
 

mrsCALoki

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a bunch of morons. Why couldnt a real Canadian catch this creep in the act and kick the living the crap out of them. I know I would have boot stomped the fucker, and used their blood to clean off the magic marker. Just makes me sick to my stomache.
Yes I guess so. Nazi Brown Shirts and SS apparently felt just like you do and did what you recommend.

Some times I so wish I was a man so I could see morality so clearly and simply. <=====sarcasm
 

Rockslinger

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It is the problem of being a democratic state, you try to do the right thing and are criticized left, right and sideways, while nondemocratic states get away with just about anything.
So, by following the "Law" in Iraq, we ended up being "occupiers".
 

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Deport these two fuckin' scumbag immigrants back to fuckin' Afghanistan !!!!
 

Rockslinger

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I thought this thread had expired. Anyway, I'll kill it with a bad joke.

We should be thankful that these women weren't suicide bombers.
 
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