Flu Vaccine Time
- Thread starter Petzel
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Yes, it's essential for people whose immune systems are comprised ie. diabetes, heart disease, emphysema, asthma and the elderly.
Some people don't get them cuz they think it will give them the flu! They should learn that it doesn't, but sometimes the first vaccine can give you a reaction of flu-like symptoms. That's where people get confused. After the first couple of years you don't get a reaction anymore. What I do notice now though after several years of the flu vaccine, is that if I do catch a cold or the flu, the symptoms are much milder and the duration is much less time to recover.
Yes I saw the sign at Shoppers Drug Mart yesterday. In the past I have it done at work by a visiting nurse or at my GP if I am visiting her.
I initially misread this as 'at my SP'. Now that would be a full service provider.
I think SPs only "needle" us for:
Poor performance
Late show
No show
Hygiene (or lack thereof)
Asking for non menu service
You must be one of those conspiracy theory believers!
Listen, I've had pneumonia 3 times in my life and if it wasn't for the shots I would've/could've died, you know it all! :frusty:
X2 and I have yet to be very ill in many years, since my mid 30's and I be 50 in a few years
And if you get cancer 30 years from now, the doctors will tell you it just happens and they don't know why all cancers happen
http://curezone.org/art/read.asp?ID=12&db=12&C0=735
Could virus-contaminated vaccines lie at the root of AIDS? A few researchers, including myself, believe HIV was "introduced" into gays during the experimental hepatitis B vaccine trials when thousands of homosexuals were injected in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York, during the years 1978-1981.
The AIDS epidemic first erupted in gays living in those cities in 1981. In 1980, one year before, already 20% of the gays inoculated in Manhattan with the experimental vaccine were already HIV-positive. This was several years before definite AIDS cases were diagnosed in Africa. In the early 1970s the hepatitis B vaccine was developed in chimpanzees, now wildly accepted as the animal from which HIV supposedly evolved.
Hepatitis B vaccine was developed to protect people from the sexual spread of the hepatitis B virus. Now the government recommends that all newborn babies be given the vaccine [this is also the case in Australia]. Such recommendations do not make sense to many parents. And people are still fearful of the hepatitis B vaccine because of its original connection to gay men and AIDS. The original experimental vaccine was made from the pooled blood serum of hepatitis-infected homosexuals and, as mentioned, serum-based vaccines cannot be sterilised.
Another theory of AIDS is that HIV originated from polio vaccines contaminated with chimp and monkey viruses, and administered to Africans in the late 1950s. In The River: A Journey to the Source of HIV and AIDS, published in 1999, Edward Hooper details how polio vaccine was made using monkey (and possibly chimp) kidneys and how the ancestor virus of HIV could have jumped species (via the vaccine) to produce the outbreak of AIDS in Africa. Hooper's well-researched book greatly expands the polio vaccine theory of AIDS first reported by Tom Curtis in Rolling Stone magazine in 1992, and The River is a must-read for anyone interested in the possible man-made origin of AIDS.
Other researchers think it more likely that the various WHO-sponsored vaccine programs (particularly the smallpox program) in Africa in the 1970s are responsible for unleashing AIDS in Africa in the 1980s. Hooper, who has worked as a United Nations official, has discounted the research pointing to AIDS as a man-made disease, as proposed by Dr. Leonard Horowitz in Emerging Viruses, and in my two books AIDS & The Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic and Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot.
Horowitz and I both suspect contaminated smallpox vaccines as the source of HIV in Africa. Certainly the smallpox (vaccinia-cowpox) virus is an excellent virus to use for the genetic engineering of new, multipurpose vaccines. By splicing into the DNA genes of the vaccinia virus, scientists can add on parts of disease-producing viruses like influenza, hepatitis, and other viruses. The safety of this technique has not been fully evaluated, prompting one vaccine maker at a Vaccinia Virus Workshop in 1984 to ask if this could lead to another form of AIDS.
Vaccine Connection to Gulf War Illness and Huntsville Mystery Illness
The cause of Gulf War Illness (GWI) is unknown. For years this debilitating illness (which now affects one-half of the Gulf War vets) has been ignored by Pentagon officials who claim the disease does not exist and that vets are simply reacting to stress. GWI is also thought to be contagious. Vets insist their disease has been passed on to spouses, other family members, and even pets.
Some people suspect multiple vaccines, particularly the experimental anthrax vaccine, are implicated in the disease. Currently, soldiers who refuse to take the mandatory anthrax vaccine are being court-martialled and dismissed from the service.
read more
http://curezone.org/art/read.asp?ID=12&db=12&C0=735
Could virus-contaminated vaccines lie at the root of AIDS? A few researchers, including myself, believe HIV was "introduced" into gays during the experimental hepatitis B vaccine trials when thousands of homosexuals were injected in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York, during the years 1978-1981.
The AIDS epidemic first erupted in gays living in those cities in 1981. In 1980, one year before, already 20% of the gays inoculated in Manhattan with the experimental vaccine were already HIV-positive. This was several years before definite AIDS cases were diagnosed in Africa. In the early 1970s the hepatitis B vaccine was developed in chimpanzees, now wildly accepted as the animal from which HIV supposedly evolved.
Hepatitis B vaccine was developed to protect people from the sexual spread of the hepatitis B virus. Now the government recommends that all newborn babies be given the vaccine [this is also the case in Australia]. Such recommendations do not make sense to many parents. And people are still fearful of the hepatitis B vaccine because of its original connection to gay men and AIDS. The original experimental vaccine was made from the pooled blood serum of hepatitis-infected homosexuals and, as mentioned, serum-based vaccines cannot be sterilised.
Another theory of AIDS is that HIV originated from polio vaccines contaminated with chimp and monkey viruses, and administered to Africans in the late 1950s. In The River: A Journey to the Source of HIV and AIDS, published in 1999, Edward Hooper details how polio vaccine was made using monkey (and possibly chimp) kidneys and how the ancestor virus of HIV could have jumped species (via the vaccine) to produce the outbreak of AIDS in Africa. Hooper's well-researched book greatly expands the polio vaccine theory of AIDS first reported by Tom Curtis in Rolling Stone magazine in 1992, and The River is a must-read for anyone interested in the possible man-made origin of AIDS.
Other researchers think it more likely that the various WHO-sponsored vaccine programs (particularly the smallpox program) in Africa in the 1970s are responsible for unleashing AIDS in Africa in the 1980s. Hooper, who has worked as a United Nations official, has discounted the research pointing to AIDS as a man-made disease, as proposed by Dr. Leonard Horowitz in Emerging Viruses, and in my two books AIDS & The Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic and Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot.
Horowitz and I both suspect contaminated smallpox vaccines as the source of HIV in Africa. Certainly the smallpox (vaccinia-cowpox) virus is an excellent virus to use for the genetic engineering of new, multipurpose vaccines. By splicing into the DNA genes of the vaccinia virus, scientists can add on parts of disease-producing viruses like influenza, hepatitis, and other viruses. The safety of this technique has not been fully evaluated, prompting one vaccine maker at a Vaccinia Virus Workshop in 1984 to ask if this could lead to another form of AIDS.
Vaccine Connection to Gulf War Illness and Huntsville Mystery Illness
The cause of Gulf War Illness (GWI) is unknown. For years this debilitating illness (which now affects one-half of the Gulf War vets) has been ignored by Pentagon officials who claim the disease does not exist and that vets are simply reacting to stress. GWI is also thought to be contagious. Vets insist their disease has been passed on to spouses, other family members, and even pets.
Some people suspect multiple vaccines, particularly the experimental anthrax vaccine, are implicated in the disease. Currently, soldiers who refuse to take the mandatory anthrax vaccine are being court-martialled and dismissed from the service.
read more
http://curezone.org/art/read.asp?ID=12&db=12&C0=735
Get out more often and see how it goes. Much of you luck comes from you had a number of those usual diseases and got some immunity. It's down hill at 50, get use to it. Or was it 60?
That can be true, the last time I got very ill I was visiting relatives and holding their little kids for pictures and ate at their home which wasn't so clean. After that, I ate before I went visiting and limit my time and what I did and was sure to wash my hands and face in the bathroom before leaving.
I believe my immune system is now stronger as well. I'm hoping I don't start going downhill till my 60's. My folks are in their late 70's and still doing pretty well.
I did get ill during New Years Eve a few years back when I went to Toronto to celebrate, I swear I caught the germs in the subway being in those pack subway cars, I was feeling fine till after I was in Toronto for 36 - 48 hours. Lucky my plans took me to Niagara and I didn't get too sick--no throwing up and body sweats, just feeling like crap and a mild sore throat...about a week later I was OK with no meds
I believe my immune system is now stronger as well. I'm hoping I don't start going downhill till my 60's. My folks are in their late 70's and still doing pretty well.
I did get ill during New Years Eve a few years back when I went to Toronto to celebrate, I swear I caught the germs in the subway being in those pack subway cars, I was feeling fine till after I was in Toronto for 36 - 48 hours. Lucky my plans took me to Niagara and I didn't get too sick--no throwing up and body sweats, just feeling like crap and a mild sore throat...about a week later I was OK with no meds
Well known fact, farm kids are usually more healthy than city kids; more dirt and germs on the farms to eat wallow and swim in.
