Gunfire on Morningside!

[sp free]

What is so wrong with profiling anyway?

I travel a lot. I go through airports and sea ports and land border crossings. I am subject to search at any of them, and I accept it because that's the deal.

If the cops want to pull me over because I look suspicious and they want to search my car for weapons...go right ahead.

The only people that are against profiling are the ones that are guilty, and of course the garden variety liberal d-bags that will whine and cry about human rights.

How about the human rights of some kids and other innocent people that just got shot at a freaking block party?

The cops could just set up in a bad part of town with an xray truck and radio the plate numbers ahead.

Something has to be done. Citing statistics to fool yourself into thinking that there is no problem isn't going to work.

 

[oldjones]

Didn't a drunk driver who was twice over the limit go free because a policeman stopped him on a hunch?
Police are not allowed to use their experience or intuition to investigate possible criminal activity anymore.

Re: Toronto's future if this continues. Bette Davis said it best.

Does that apply to gun-sniffing dogs sitting quietly by the RIDE point-officer?

 

[msog87]

What is so wrong with profiling anyway?

I travel a lot. I go through airports and sea ports and land border crossings. I am subject to search at any of them, and I accept it because that's the deal.

If the cops want to pull me over because I look suspicious and they want to search my car for weapons...go right ahead.

The only people that are against profiling are the ones that are guilty, and of course the garden variety liberal d-bags that will whine and cry about human rights.

How about the human rights of some kids and other innocent people that just got shot at a freaking block party?

The cops could just set up in a bad part of town with an xray truck and radio the plate numbers ahead.

Something has to be done. Citing statistics to fool yourself into thinking that there is no problem isn't going to work.

the govt will just throw money at the issue which will do nothing but look proactive. then you have the liberal gta judges that undermine the tough on crime agenda

 

[oldjones]

Safe places to raise kids wanted. Could it be there's more to it than downtown vs. suburbs? Just don't say it needs better smarter civic leaders; we gotta work with what we have. The problem is getting them to see the problems where people live. Saying they shouldn't live just leads to worse.

 

[msog87]

virtually all the shooters in these crimes have previous charges for violence or are currently in the court system. they need to be put away for 10 years for any violent crime thats a first offence and I mean time served, get these guys off the street and there is no crime, let them get out of jail at 40 and hopefully they will be mature enough to not make stupid decisions, if they commit another crime when they get out they go to jail for another 20 years. cut all funding for liberal social programs aimed at reducing gang violence to help pay for these losers to be locked up

 

[oldjones]

virtually all the shooters in these crimes have previous charges for violence or are currently in the court system. they need to be put away for 10 years for any violent crime thats a first offence and I mean time served, get these guys off the street and there is no crime, let them get out of jail at 40 and hopefully they will be mature enough to not make stupid decisions, if they commit another crime when they get out they go to jail for another 20 years. cut all funding for liberal social programs aimed at reducing gang violence to help pay for these losers to be locked up

Hopefully? Sounds bleak, desperate and doomed to fail to me. The word even recognizes the fat chance it'll work. But just keep taxing us to pay for all the new jails you'll need. At least there'll be bad non-union jobs building them.

 

[msog87]

Hopefully? Sounds bleak, desperate and doomed to fail to me. The word even recognizes the fat chance it'll work. But just keep taxing us to pay for all the new jails you'll need. At least there'll be bad non-union jobs building them.

the govt wastes tons of money, the liberal govt just announced they are wasting 190 million to relocate that power plant. in the whole scheme of things to lock these guys up for life is chump change

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

The TSA in US also has spotchecks on highways, railways and subways:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/28/travel/tsa-vipr-passenger-train-searches/index.html

They check for terrorists. If they can do it for terrorists, then why cant we do it for Toronto gangbangers??

 

[msog87]

The TSA in US also has spotchecks highways, railways and subways:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/28/travel/tsa-vipr-passenger-train-searches/index.html

They check for terrorists. If they can do it for terrorists, then why cant we do it for Toronto gangbangers??

all that is unconstitutional, im sure the canadian supreme court is politicized as well since they passed RIDE. there are other ways to deal with this problem instead of taking away EVERYONES civil rights

 

[GameBoy27]

Really Chief Blair? You want "the community" to break the "code of silence"? I suppose it's no different than when Police refuse to hand over their notes or refuse to cooperate with the SIU.

Of course, this justifies the "code of silence" in the community and allow the culprits to shoot again another day.

No, it doesn't justify the "code of silence" but with the threat of retaliation from shooters still on the loose, couple with the fact that these maniacs have an obvious disregard for anyone's safety, I can't blame people for not coming forward. In addition, the fact that perpetrators of gun crimes are rarely locked up for a long period of time, I wouldn't want to finger anyone either.

Edit: With that said, people with information should anonymously call TIPS with any information.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

This is the guy who was killed: Joshua Yasay

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...rborough-shooting-victim-one-of-the-good-guys

Joshua Yasay spent his days running a business in Ajax and his nights coaching basketball for at-risk youth, trying to stem the very kind of violence that led to his death.

Yasay, a 23-year-old from Ajax, was gunned down Monday night in a shooting at a community barbecue in Scarborough, near Morningside Ave. and Lawrence Ave. at 10:40 p.m.

A 14-year-old girl, Shyanne Charles, was also killed in the fray.

Every Monday, Yasay coached kids between the ages of 13 and 17 in the Malvern area. He was described as dedicated and passionate about his volunteer work.

“It’s not good for anybody when this happens, but he’s one of the good guys. That’s what it comes down to. He was one of the true good guys really trying to equalize the playing field,” said Katie Bushie, program manager at Learning Disabilities Association of Toronto.

Yasay opened a barbershop with his friend one year ago, according to corporation records. Goodfellas Barber Lounge is a men’s salon located in a squat Ajax plaza, just south of Church St. and Kingston Rd. W.

He is from Ajax

 

[oldjones]

the govt wastes tons of money, the liberal govt just announced they are wasting 190 million to relocate that power plant. in the whole scheme of things to lock these guys up for life is chump change

No, as the Parliamentary Budget Officer said, it's likely billions. On the other hand the feds and the Police here both believe those low-cost—not so much as a hundred mill—youth diversion projects do actually work.

Although Rosedale folks and even Etiobickians do shoot each other now and then, I somehow don't think it's the fear of jails that keeps them from doing it more often.

 

[HEYHEY]

The TSA in US also has spotchecks on highways, railways and subways:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/28/travel/tsa-vipr-passenger-train-searches/index.html

They check for terrorists. If they can do it for terrorists, then why cant we do it for Toronto gangbangers??

People like you are ridiculous.
You'll piss on EVERYONES rights because a small percentage of the populations doesnt care about laws, yet when they get stopped with a ILLEGAL gun, they'll be back out on the streets in one day, as is the case every time!

We don't need more laws, or spot checks, hell all HANDGUNS need to be registered. You need a license to buy one, same for ammo etc..You cant take it out of your house, you need magazines to be capped at 10/5. Yet these guys dont care. They will break every law you throw at them. People like this don't belong in society and should have already been sitting in prison. Just like the eaton center shooter these thugs will have a rap sheet 3 pages long, out on probation, prohibited from owning firearm etc etc etc...

 

[homerjsimpson]

They were saying on the news cops gotta start doing RIDE checks for guns.

Its not a bad idea actually

If we have RIDE spotchecks for drunks, we can have RIDE spotchecks for gangbangers with guns

You guys can't be serious. Give your head a shake.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin 1775

 

[GameBoy27]

No, as the Parliamentary Budget Officer said, it's likely billions. On the other hand the feds and the Police here both believe those low-cost—not so much as a hundred mill—youth diversion projects do actually work.

Although Rosedale folks and even Etiobickians do shoot each other now and then, I somehow don't think it's the fear of jails that keeps them from doing it more often.

No, they have no fear of jail which is why they shoot at will. Jails only serve to keep shooters from shooting again. Unfortunately, they're never in long enough. How many times have you heard of repeat offenders of gun crimes. I think if you're caught walking around with an gun, let alone shooting someone, you get 10 years with no parole. Nobody needs to be walking around with a gun.

 

[blackrock13]

You guys can't be serious. Give your head a shake.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin 1775

Except that the courts in the land have already dealt with this kind of stop and found it worthwhile, so meh.

 

[OddSox]

No, they have no fear of jail which is why they shoot at will. Jails only serve to keep shooters from shooting again. Unfortunately, they're never in long enough. How many times have you heard of repeat offenders of gun crimes. I think if you're caught walking around with an gun, let alone shooting someone, you get 10 years with no parole. Nobody needs to be walking around with a gun.

Anyone using a gun in the process of a crime should simply be shot with their own gun. Under medical supervision of course, and somewhere with minimum damage and maximum pain - eg the gluteous maximus. They probably won't do it again any time soon...

 

[fuji]

Chances are these idiots were filling the air with lead shooting gangster style. Once caught they should be taught how to fire a handgun properly with a live demonstration.... From the receiving end.

We should teach all of them proper shooting technique. They are mostly aiming at each other, so more accurate fire would be a good thing. Most of the innocent people are killed by misses.

 

[frankcastle]

While I don't have a good solution I agree that making things more difficult for everyone (with car checks for guns) won't prevent crimes when the perpetrators already don't give a shit about the law.

What if gun manufacturers put gps into all non military and police guns. And what if police were able to track these guns so if they spot a gun moving they can pull the person over.

I'f I'm on my way to the gun range or hunting I'd have no problem if the cop stopped me to see if I had my papers in order, that the gun is transported properly etc.

At the very least the gang bangers would all be wearing those orange hunting vests to pretend that they are on their way to go hunting and we the public could spot them more easily.

What if bullets were individually stamped so that they could be traced? Sure there would be a way around that too but at least coops might be able to trace where the leak of illegal bullets came from.

Anyways, just throwing some outside the box thinking. So if you think it's retarded no problem this is more like just shooting the shit.

 

[GameBoy27]

No, they have no fear of jail which is why they shoot at will. Jails only serve to keep shooters from shooting again. Unfortunately, they're never in long enough. How many times have you heard of repeat offenders of gun crimes. I think if you're caught walking around with an gun, let alone shooting someone, you get 10 years with no parole. Nobody needs to be walking around with a gun.

We don't need more laws, or spot checks, hell all HANDGUNS need to be registered. You need a license to buy one, same for ammo etc..You cant take it out of your house, you need magazines to be capped at 10/5. Yet these guys dont care. They will break every law you throw at them. People like this don't belong in society and should have already been sitting in prison. Just like the eaton center shooter these thugs will have a rap sheet 3 pages long, out on probation, prohibited from owning firearm etc etc etc...

Like I said, put them away for a long time so they can't shoot more people.