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An unfortunate PSE session with Candice Cane.

dirkd101

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It's good to hear that you ended the session. The limits, as set out by any SP should be respected. The fact that this scum did not respect the boundaries is appalling. You are a good friend to do what you did and it's good to hear that you are both unharmed.
 

Hornee

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You girls were 100% right, everybody has boundaries & noone should cross them once they know what they are....and if they do....hit the road! Well done ladies.
 

Zook

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I have met Candice and she came across to me as one of the best SPs I have ever met. and we had a great convo too and she is so cool and easy to deal with. And I emailed her several times as Indy trying to make a deal and she was amazing. It makes me feel awful that she and yourself went trough this.

Zook
 

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Really what is there to say? Candice and Jezzi, nobody deserves that type of behaviour. Good to hear that you have each other's backs and there was nothing further.
 
That sucks! Glad you two are okay.

I hate the idea of having to cut a session early as I try to make the best of every situation and offer alternatives, as im sure we all do. But when that line is crossed, he KNOWS IT, and I hope all the girls in this industry will use this as an example to clearly define and enforce our own individual rules so that certain gentlemen know that crossing lines is NOT okay, not even once in a while with a new girl who doesn't know better.

>:| To guys who call agencies asking for the "new" girl giving the idea he is doing her a favor, but really just wants to pull a fast one over her... for example!

I often have trouble getting guys to provide screening information -- some things should just be the normal expectation...

Stay focused <3
 

mmello

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No need for second thought here. Two ladies who have liberal boundaries were disrespected and frightened by a client. Why impune their motives when empathy and relief that they are not seriously harmed is really all we should be feeling. To imply that their post was to pre empt any negative feedback is, in itself, disrespectful to them. Nit picking over where it was posted is petty. Whether you meant this or not it it seems that to paraphrase your ending "oh by the way.....I'm glad you are ok" is an afterthought. It should have been your first concern. The impression you give is that you have more sympathy for the perp that for Candice and Jezabel.
 

trod

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Damn, hope you two are ok.

It really makes one wonder how some people are wired in the head. Props to you for handling this well.
 

kratz

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there is a real business lesson here too... to borrow a phrase from a truly strange thread ... a repeat, known, safe client is "worth his weight in gold". i understand this message is a little self serving but nevertheless an opportunity to suggest to the lovely ladies (especially awesome independents like jez, cc, etc... and i have seen both) that there is a real opportunity to develop your business around dt guys who can host (likely a convenient location, reduces your overhead since you dont have to pay for a room) , who can commit to a regular schedule for visits (helps you plan your life better so is more efficient) and most important reduces the "fear factor" as this thread points out that even the most savvy, careful, and cool ladies are going to have real safety issues , unfortunately.

id recommend a little less clock watching, a little more flexibility, maybe the odd extra special session (like bring in a friend for a 3way as a loyalty reward ) bcuz just as we clients love to find and stick with a real "gem", there are gems to be found on our side too
 

69Shooter

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Any girl who wishes to know his name can contact me privately and I will most definitely share his info. I am not going to post it public because that will just escalate the damage and I am going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that he will remember that not all SPs will tolerate being taken advantage of.
Sorry to read about your experience and glad that it ended without serious consequences. However no SP, never, under any circumstances, for any reason at all​, should tolerate being taken advantage of!
 
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LKD

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sorry about the experience and glad to hear you two could get out of it. A little more details of the boundaries violated would help us understand better so any one us out to see you two be more careful.
 

69Shooter

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The boundaries that she had specifically laid out in emails, on her website and verbally at the start of the session were all violated.
sorry about the experience and glad to hear you two could get out of it. A little more details of the boundaries violated would help us understand better so any one us out to see you two be more careful.
Don't be such a jackass!
 

gassman

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Glad you are both ok. At least I hope you are.
Your body - your game - your rules. No questions asked
It's a shame you or any SP has to be subjected to this type of assault and Jez and Candace, call it what you want but it's assault and the guy should be punished.
Keep safe !
 

lenharper

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sorry about the experience and glad to hear you two could get out of it. A little more details of the boundaries violated would help us understand better so any one us out to see you two be more careful.
I love that there is some doofus trying to extract jerk off material out of this thread...
 

GPIDEAL

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He's lucky that Candice didn't use her boxing skills on him!

(I saw Candice with Sydney over a week ago which re-opened my eyes as to how great Candice is both in physical beauty and service. My RP request was fulfilled quite nicely, and it played out like a porno. Candice though is also a very cute and charming young lady - which turned me into a jack rabbit he he. I love the fact that she loves wearing heels throughout the session, but she did remove them eventually when I asked her for some mutual foot cuddling.)
 

69Shooter

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Dear Gentlemen who enjoy PSE,

There is a reason we screen more deliberately. Despite the fact that Candice and I both really enjoy PSE we had the unfortunate circumstance of having to kick out a client last night. Every single time I turned my head he crossed Candice's boundaries. It's ho's before bro's and I could tell she was not ok. The boundaries that she had specifically laid out in emails, on her website and verbally at the start of the session were all violated. The fact of the matter is that he took full advantage of Candice every time I turned my head. He didn't stop when she said red and he secretly took video and photographs of her which we are still unsure we were able to remove from the camera. The both of us are quite shaken up by this event as neither of us have ever had to ask someone to leave. The reason we are both able to offer PSE safely is because we have our individual limits and the capacity to verbalize them. It is the mans job to understand, respect and not violate. In this situation I was so incredibly turned off, Candice was in pain and almost crying and there was just no way I was going to continue to provide pleasure to this person who clearly demonstrated absolutely NO RESPECT for Candice's boundaries. I feel he really took advantage of the fact that she is tiny, very young, new-ish and a complete sweet-heart who just wants to please. I have seen Candice fuck like a rock star several times and in this situation, the client wasn't getting anywhere with her because he was making her feel so disrespected and turned-off. I got so turned-off and angry that I had to kick him out. I called him out on his behaviour and I hope that there won't be any drama on TERB.

I just wanted to put it out there that PSE is awesome fun until something like this goes wrong and then it is GAME OVER. I will always make sure play is 100% consensual and if you OVERTLY go beyond someone's consent then YMMV applies and you sink and you lose.

It was a really unfortunate turn of events as this was an extensive session that Candice and I prepared for much in advance right down to specific toys and outfit requests. We really wanted this to go well, but it didn't. Neither of us are crooks, but you can be damned sure we are self-respecting women who don't tolerate being blatantly violated. Yes, I am angry as hell. But I am not going to let this one asshole cause me so much anxiety that I pull back on what I am offering. I have been enjoying doing more PSE sessions lately, but when something like this happens, it reminds me of why I need to be screening more carefully.

THANKS FOR READING
lots of love,
Jezebel

PS- Candice is okay, we got out of the situation and I had her back. We both want to be able to keep offering what we do and being able to enjoy it as well. xo
Maybe it's so men can know what not to do?

This isn't some PG-13 site (fuckin' obviously), it can actually be helpful.
I guess you're another jackass that didn't bother reading the OP! I've highlighted a few items from the OP so that morons like you will know what not to do.
 

D-Fens

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I am so sorry that this happen to you. SPs screen clients as best as they can but on occasion a douchebag gets past it.

It's assholes like that that give the rest of us a bad name we are already stigmatized enough we don't need assholes like him prepuating the stereotype that all johns are violent misogynist pigs who just want to hurt women.

Good you got his information so that other sps can be on the lookout.
 

69Shooter

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So videotaping caused physical pain? And what's with the names? I've been nothing but polite in addressing you, and I'm fairly certain you'd hesitate to say those things to my face.

Relax. Breathe.
Yes, you have; and I apologize for my rude (and over the top) name calling. It seemed pretty clear from the OP what had happened... rules and boundaries had been clearly defined by the SP before the session began. I suspect that the client was made aware that he was violating those rules as the session progressed. Surely we (i.e., clients) should know that secretly photographing or filming a session is, if nothing else, unethical. And, for God's sake, when a client is ignoring an SP's use a safe word (while she is also crying at the same time) that's unacceptable. Why do you (or anyone else) need more specifics than what were provided to know that these actions were not appropriate?
 
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