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frankcastle

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lol she two hand curls 25 lbs and tosses the bar a few inches in the air.

i one hand curl 30 lbs and would never casually toss a 25 lbs weight and play catch with it.
 

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I am glad you said that in the bold. As for the hunting thing. If things ever got that bad the woods would be emptied of anything bigger than my dick within months. Keep in mind, I'm white, so we are not talking Moose here ;). As I understand it [correct me if I am wrong] even those isolated reserves in the middle of nowhere are too big to live off of hunting and gathering. Traditionally bands are pretty small, imagine every asshat with a gun trying to shoot up some food.

I assume you are not speaking in jest because others elsewhere have made this point and I think it is a valid one. Of course it isn't valid if you plan of feeding on long pig.
with the job i do i have a truck that can get me minimum 3000kms before i need to worry about fuel. i will be turning that truck north and not stopping till it runs out. my brother has a truck that sits with a full reg tank and reserve tank. the world won't die so fast we can't stop to get some reserves on the way. i am not worried about the forest running out of things to kill either, as far up as i am going not to many people will venture. big enough garden to pull food out of that will carry over for the winter and carry past winter. i will be loading up people that i care about into a trailer if they want to come with me, if not i am not going to beg. i could live a long and happy life that far up and out of the way and would never get bothered by anyone.
 

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with the job i do i have a truck that can get me minimum 3000kms before i need to worry about fuel. i will be turning that truck north and not stopping till it runs out. my brother has a truck that sits with a full reg tank and reserve tank. the world won't die so fast we can't stop to get some reserves on the way. i am not worried about the forest running out of things to kill either, as far up as i am going not to many people will venture. big enough garden to pull food out of that will carry over for the winter and carry past winter. i will be loading up people that i care about into a trailer if they want to come with me, if not i am not going to beg. i could live a long and happy life that far up and out of the way and would never get bothered by anyone.
sounds a bit far fetched but no interest in arguing......clearly i must have more respect for simon than mrs loko
 

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sounds a bit far fetched but no interest in arguing......clearly i must have more respect for simon than mrs loko
without arguing tell me what seems far fetched about it ? i see no reason why you couldn't point out what seems far fetched and i could explain with a little more clarity than others the details that make it actually real.
 

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I am sure you don't actually believe this, it is just another part of your fantasy position. I mean really, you look at all the posts, all the people calling bullshit on your story and that is what you come away with. 4.0 99 percentile my ass.
Best part for me is laughing at the people claiming it is BS. It would not be fun and funny if it was not true.

I am aware of how the world operates. 4.0 GPA and 99 percentile means you are getting free ride all the way through.
In Canada for Canadians, yes. In US for a person who is a resident, yes. So what ?

Your school was not in rough shame because you never went to med school. Funny, I've been reading 101 reasons not to go to grad school and its comments. Pages of pages from bitter grad students who regret their decisions to go, not one of them cited losing funding because the schools are in rough shape, funding runs out yes, they lose agreed funding, nope.
All US schools have a wide range of financial programs to help students. Some, like athletic scholarships can be negotiated and 'agreed' upon. For most of us you apply like crazy to every program at a school and you get a gift basket of smaller amounts. If you are bright enough you get several and they add up to what you need to pay for your tuition etc. Most are NOT 4 year 'agreements'. For most you need to apply every year. I do not know how it works for US students in US, because many of the best assistance is not available to people from other countries so I have no idea.

Almost all scholarships I applied for came from endowments from individuals and other sources. Very few are gift to school = $ to student. They are more typically gift to school = Investments, investment interest = $ to student. When the return on investment goes down, they have less money to give to students. Some programs gave the same amount to fewer students. Some programs gave a lower amount to the same number of students. In the US, they prefer giving it to US students because they will 'help the American people' after they graduate. Foreign students are the ones more at risk.

I find it laughable that you respond as if you know so much more than I do about the financial conditions of universities in NY state.
dah ya. You must be kidding.

You claim to be a high IQ 4.0 GPA 99 percentile yet you can't seem to get it through your thick head that no matter what you say, your story is just not believable. on so many levels.
Gee Horatio, I must be stupid. Or maybe it simply the truth, and you guys seem convinced it cannot be and try and prove it is not?

I should never have allowed Frankcastle to needle my Mcat score out f me.

The only sort of people who will keep beating a dead horse are pathological liars. Any smart and sane person would have long ago stopped with the stories.
Unless of course they are speaking the truth ? :)

t your story is just not believable. on so many levels and give up trying to convince everyone.
It would not be funny and the argument would not go on and on if it was not true. It is amusing to always speak the truth and watch you guys trying to pick holes in it. I just am not certain I understand why you do it. And why yo come up with such silly arguments to prove I am lying. Everything from funding models to litmus paper only works at one end. It is hilarious to watch the BS you guys create just so you can continue to believe I am not being honest.

I knew you were full of shit, but at this point it goes beyond that, you must be trolling.
I like hearing from people in PMs. The public stuff generates the PMs. I like to cuddle when Loki does his thing on the tablet. I find this more fun than reading. I am having fun seeing the flawed arguments you guys bring up. Anyone who types a comment on any bulletin board is trolling. That is a pretty meaningless concept. I am however exploring MIRC and some of those places are actually sharing information that adds value. I may eventually leave Terb, but I will not stop reflecting my real life while I am here.

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without arguing tell me what seems far fetched about it ? i see no reason why you couldn't point out what seems far fetched and i could explain with a little more clarity than others the details that make it actually real.

just that you have enough farmland to feed a small group of people year round in a remote location
 

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just that you have enough farmland to feed a small group of people year round in a remote location
100 acres good enough ? small group being me and my girl, my 2 kids, brother and his kid and girl. my other brother wouldn't come he is afraid of the country and my mom is old and sick and probably wouldn't last long anyway.
 

frankcastle

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100 acres good enough ? small group being me and my girl, my 2 kids, brother and his kid and girl. my other brother wouldn't come he is afraid of the country and my mom is old and sick and probably wouldn't last long anyway.
how do you farm 100 acres minus gas n hydro
 

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how do you farm 100 acres minus gas n hydro
well the sun is free and that helps plants grow, rain is also free and it is good for plants. as for the planting and harvesting. when i was younger my family had a garden, it was about half an acre in size, it produced enough food (tato's, beans, tomato, carrot, beets, etc..) to feed a family of 4 every night for the winter and with 4 people working it, it was actually pretty easy and only took 2 weeks to plant, 1 day every week to maintain, 2-3 weeks to harvest it all with no power tools. if you can't think of a way to plant and harvest without the use of machines, i would be worried about your future.
 

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well the sun is free and that helps plants grow, rain is also free and it is good for plants. as for the planting and harvesting. when i was younger my family had a garden, it was about half an acre in size, it produced enough food (tato's, beans, tomato, carrot, beets, etc..) to feed a family of 4 every night for the winter and with 4 people working it, it was actually pretty easy and only took 2 weeks to plant, 1 day every week to maintain, 2-3 weeks to harvest it all with no power tools. if you can't think of a way to plant and harvest without the use of machines, i would be worried about your future.
i thought we were discussing nicely no need to take shots at my intelligence.

lead with the 1/2 acre story.....instead of a space 200x bigger
 

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without arguing tell me what seems far fetched about it ? i see no reason why you couldn't point out what seems far fetched and i could explain with a little more clarity than others the details that make it actually real.
Oh can I point it out?

The further north you go, the shorter the growing season is. That is why there are so many farms in Southern Ontario. The buffalo farm where where we buy our meat is probably a good example of a northerish farm. I doubt if it could survive and produce enough food without modern equipment and fuel.

Every person in the cities will be thinking about getting out. Refugees travel thousands of miles on foot to escape things. I would guess most will go North? What are you going to do with them when they arrive at your door? Unless you have no rail or roads within sight of your smoke and within ear shot of your place you will get visitors.

I have been learning how to shoot recently. Some people at the gun club are into all that survival stuff. But how many fire fights can they survive and win? 5? 10? 100? How many people with guns and no food will be visiting?

I tried to plant a garden last year. Even with the hydraulic shovel trying to make it was hard. If I was going to be there this summer I might get more food out of it. If the ground is not ready, if the ground id not already producing, what will you eat for the first few years? DO you know how to farm? Do you have the knowledge and skills?

Hunting is ok as a hobby. I even like the taste of wild game and it is better for you. If food becomes scarce the would will be full of locals all trying to get the very limited food available. If even only a small percentage of them are successful there is not nearly enough out there to feed many people.

:)

How am I doing?
 

simon482

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i thought we were discussing nicely no need to take shots at my intelligence.

lead with the 1/2 acre story.....instead of a space 200x bigger
it wasn't meant as an insult, it was more of a suggestion for you to look into stuff and get ready "just in case" and if a 1/2 acre can feed a family of 4 and i will only have 8-9 people there why would i need to use the entire 100 acres. 2 acres would give us plenty and with everyone chipping in it will actually be pretty easy to plow, plant, maintain and harvest.
 

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what i am most worried about is if things really do go south, there will come a time when i run out of cigarettes and then i would just go into a rage.
 

mrsCALoki

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well the sun is free and that helps plants grow, rain is also free and it is good for plants. as for the planting and harvesting. when i was younger my family had a garden, it was about half an acre in size, it produced enough food (tato's, beans, tomato, carrot, beets, etc..) to feed a family of 4 every night for the winter and with 4 people working it, it was actually pretty easy and only took 2 weeks to plant, 1 day every week to maintain, 2-3 weeks to harvest it all with no power tools. if you can't think of a way to plant and harvest without the use of machines, i would be worried about your future.

Are we still pointing at things?

Unless you are much older than even Loki ;) your family used the garden to add food to the table and help feed the family. Or did you have milk cows, chickens, an a few acres of wheat and corn as well? Human's need salt. Where do you get it? Most diets decades ago in north america relied heavily on grains. Where are yours going to come from? Are you going to rely on plant protein? Do you know how to balance it so you will be able to live off it? If you do not, how will you deal with the need for protein? Do you have fertilizer? It takes a years to condition the soil using compost.

How are you going to live until the first crop comes in? It could be a year or more before you even see a radish unless you already have it all set up.

One of our neighbours down the road bought an old farm. I love to visit and they are very proud of their canned vegetables. They think in 4 or 5 more years they will be mostly self sufficient. And they get to use machinery to make the land productive.

Did I mention heat and the time needed to cut down and split wood? The further north you go the colder the winter and the more wood you need.

Do you have a nice warm safe house for everyone already built up there?
 

mrsCALoki

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Ask the mennonites they do it all the time.
And I love their cheese.

But it took them generations to build their places and learn how to do it. Not to mention horses etc.

A guy trying to have an instant subsistence farm and the mennonites established communities is not quite the same thing.

And of course hungry Torontonians trying to steel their food has never been a big issue for mennonites.

But they do have a very well organized and simpler life style.
 

frankcastle

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Are we still pointing at things?

Unless you are much older than even Loki ;) your family used the garden to add food to the table and help feed the family. Or did you have milk cows, chickens, an a few acres of wheat and corn as well? Human's need salt. Where do you get it? Most diets decades ago in north america relied heavily on grains. Where are yours going to come from? Are you going to rely on plant protein? Do you know how to balance it so you will be able to live off it? If you do not, how will you deal with the need for protein? Do you have fertilizer? It takes a years to condition the soil using compost.

How are you going to live until the first crop comes in? It could be a year or more before you even see a radish unless you already have it all set up.

One of our neighbours down the road bought an old farm. I love to visit and they are very proud of their canned vegetables. They think in 4 or 5 more years they will be mostly self sufficient. And they get to use machinery to make the land productive.

Did I mention heat and the time needed to cut down and split wood? The further north you go the colder the winter and the more wood you need.


Do you have a nice warm safe house for everyone already built up there?
lol no mrs loki is not a troll...... +1 point

i am happy with simon's reply so i am done.....no need to argue....disproving mrs loki's assertion that i will argue anything +1 point

winning!!!!!!!!!!!!! okay just kidding
 
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