donation - put it in an envelope or count it in front of sp?

Lustology

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I never pay first, I always take big bills, for example if the donation is $250, I would keep three bills, two hundreds and a fifty. Spread them out on the table where it's visible and say good bye.

Unless it's mandatory of course.
 

krazyplayer

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I find that when there has been a problem agencies address it and indies don't. Agencies need you to call back and a girl who just ripped you off (or whatever)never wants to see you again anyway. Don't take it personally Jessica. There are some great indies and I do see some if well known and well reviewed but I usually go with an agency because of bad experiences with indies in the past. I also count everything out at the start for the same reason.
 

39ajaxmale

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I never EVER pay upfront. If an sp asks, I leave. Everytime I have paid upfront I have received horrible service. Sp's that ask for money upfront are generally independent and I avoid independents unless I have seen them before at an agency.

I stick with three agencies nowadays: Mirage, Select, and TorontoPassions

I have never been asked to pay upfront at any of these agencies and I always tip afterwards.

All these issues would not occur if you just stuck with reputable agencies and avoided Independents IMO.
I think that from the tone of your post:
I NEVER pay up front.
If an SP asks, I leave.
Everytime I have paid upfront I have received horrible service.
Sp's that ask for money upfront are generally independent...
All these issues would not occur if you just stuck with reputable agencies and avoided Independents IMO.

That anyone with "enough mental fortitude" could safely say you are insulting independents.

by verbally insulting independent sp's (which you did first I might remind you) you're looking at less options for booking a decent companion ...

it's a two way street sweetie... and btw....my clients love my sass xo
I've never booked with an agency, I figure why would I pay a cut to someone who's not giving me service. I read the reviews, when I book, I almost always book with a WELL respected girl, and I look forward to our meeting next week Jessica. I will HAPPILY put my donation in an envelope for you, and leave that on a table or, nightstand - up front.

I have nothing against girls who work in an agency, I'm sure a lot of them are very good at their jobs as well. I just have a preference, as you do.

As for my meeting with Jessica.. I have no concerns about a monetary mix-up. From what I have read, I have even less concern about my session. My theory is this: Because she is an independant, and her name is HER name, she has earned it, she has earned her reviews, and every contact I have with her is very professional, be it in PM or email. She is not an agency, she has MUCH more to lose from a bad review than any agency, who can recycle a new SP in and a bad SP out at any time.
 

frankcastle

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Hmmmm for the most part my SP experiences have been pay at hte beginning but all experiences were good..... Cupids, Honeygirls, Dreammakers, Mirage and a few no name agencies in hamilton before I learned about reviews and was just using the yellowpages.

Personally I think it would be nerve wracking to fuck somebody and hope that they have the cash after the fact.

It's for that reason that if I'm not asked I volunteer it.

With reputable agences or well reviewed indy's time of payment is a moot point wiht regards to quality of session.
 

GPIDEAL

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"Paying up front" means leaving the unsealed envelope on a table or whatever. Most gals I see leave it there, and when I leave, I remind them not to forget.

If seeing someone new, particularly an indy, they may take the envelope and hide it while you take a shower. I can understand that since many get ripped off if they don't.

I've never, ever had a problem with the upfront payment. Sometimes, the action starts right away if they're satisfied that you are shower fresh on arrival, or if they jump in the shower with you, so upfront makes sense.
 

GPIDEAL

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Hmmmm for the most part my SP experiences have been pay at hte beginning but all experiences were good..... Cupids, Honeygirls, Dreammakers, Mirage and a few no name agencies in hamilton before I learned about reviews and was just using the yellowpages.

Personally I think it would be nerve wracking to fuck somebody and hope that they have the cash after the fact.

It's for that reason that if I'm not asked I volunteer it.

With reputable agences or well reviewed indy's time of payment is a moot point wiht regards to quality of session.
Precisely. Christ, they ask you to pay upfront before you even see a movie.
 

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One good thing about MPs is that I pay at the end. I think it's pretty standard in MPs. With my regs, I just leave it on the shelf or table (sometimes when they leave the room to bring towels, supplies, etc). Some don't even look at it before I leave, but yes they are my regulars.

With SPs, I put it on a table or bed in an envelope before I take the shower. Gives them time to count it. It just feels less tacky with the envelope. Counting the money in front of me takes away the GFE feeling.
 

Demfeller

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I agree with Rocco, never pay up front, I always pay at the end and leave a good tip if the service is great.
 

39ajaxmale

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Funny though, you usually never pay for a sit down restaurant meal until after you've finished eating it!
Gives a whole new meaning to dine and dash when you throw this into the SP mix.
 

doggee_01

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"Paying up front" means leaving the unsealed envelope on a table or whatever. Most gals I see leave it there, and when I leave, I remind them not to forget.

funny reading this just reminded me ....a year or so ago i had to call someone after they left as she had left the donation on the dresser as luck would have it she was still in the hotel parking lot. we had a good chuckle over that next time i booked her
 

asterwald

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This is so confusing! I think the SP should just make it clear on their website. :closed_2:
 

Working Girl

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I agree thread has gone off topic.

Might be better here. https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?370240-Hobbyist-with-SO

But suffice it to say, i always find it amusing when people involved in the sex biz (client or provider, current or past) come in to an escort review board and pass sweeping moral judgements For example, by mrs loki`s logic, her married female friends should make sure ttheir husbands steer way clear of her, as she has an admitted extensive history of having sex with other women`s hubbies, and likely cant be trusted not to do the same again.
She is an admitted liar as she posted that she often told her clients when she was working that she was tested regularly when she was not (with a explanation that made no sense to me.) And she kept her involvement in the biz as a secret from most people in her life so that likely involved a lie (or 2). I am much happier reading posts from those in this community who do not present such a judgmental, loathing attitude.

WG
 
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Davenash2

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This is so confusing! I think the SP should just make it clear on their website. :closed_2:
Most of the good ones do.

I thing if you have built up a good connection with a SP, she will not ask you and you can pay at the end, if so desired, but what's the problem with paying up front?
Obviously you have done your research on the SP you want to see. Right? Yes YMMV, but if you are a clean, nice gentleman, what can go wrong? Why did you book her , if you did not what to see her and pay her upfront?

If you are a tipper, you can still do that at the end, as cash and it will be appreciated.

So if you had a bad time, what are you going to do? Not pay her or decide to reduce her rate?

I guess there will always be a few clients, that always need to feel like their in control, of the situation.
 
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Most SPs that rip me off with YMMV tend to disappear permanently. It's a shame, they smelled really nice too.
 

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I didn't read all the posts but I pay up front, and in an envelope.

I've never worried about the possibility of getting gyped by paying in advance. If anything, I think it helps to make the situation more relaxed, knowing the payment has been taken care of.

Like others, I only use the envelope because some SPs ask for it. I haven't questioned it because I don't really care.
 

frankcastle

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Why is there so much conceren over the exchange of money. Who are we trying to fool?!!!!???

I feel sorry for the guys who get bad service for paying up front...... never been my experience. Probably because they want me to come back. Hey give a good customer good service..... novel idea.
 
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