donation - put it in an envelope or count it in front of sp?

[mrsCALoki]

Have to agree with massman... I sure don't feel this way. A good percentage of my clients are unattached. My regular clients are 100% trusted by me... or I wouldn't keep them as clients. Just because they hobby doesn't mean they lie cheat n steal. And same for us ... as massman said. Generalizations are never fair.

I retired, I do not need to convince myself or the clients that it is fun or that they are all great lovers I know that it is a cardinal rule.

But any married man has already proven they can never be trusted. If a man will betray someone he married, how can you assume he is going to be honest with you?

 

[frankcastle]

The O/P asked, Put it in an envelope, or count it out in front of her?

On the one hand, when your loving grandmother gives you a cash present for christmas, it's way over the top in bad manners for you to count it.

On the other hand, when you pay cash at canadian tire, it's common sense to count it -- not because you don't trust the guy, but simply to make sure just what amount you're handing over. Nobody ever thinks you're accusing them of not being trust-worthy, when you count the cash in that situation.

You have to make up your mind which one of those situations is the closest match to your hobby encounter.

Most of my encounters I guess are closer to Canadian Tire I suppose seeing as the girl getting the money is closer in age to whatI'd be looking for (20s to 30s) than my 102 year old grandma.

Not to sounds pompous but every girl I meet hobbying I give the chance to prove themselves as to what type of person they are. I go in with the assumption that they are a good person.
But knowing that I want to put them at ease, I take care of the money up front and openly. This approach has in no way affected the GFE type service nor the GFE type feelings that I have for certain girls. Many of my regulars just see the money and don't touch it till we are cleaning up.

Would that be a good compromise that hasn't been mentioned yet..... what if you leave the money out in the open and she scoops it up at the end without making a show of it. Mind you this is more of a thing that someone I see regularly might do.

 

[Ridgeman08]

Lately, ive been putting it in a Victoria's Secret gift bag along with a lil something extra. :wink:

 

[frankcastle]

I retired, I do not need to convince myself or the clients that it is fun or that they are all great lovers I know that it is a cardinal rule.

But any married man has already proven they can never be trusted. If a man will betray someone he married, how can you assume he is going to be honest with you?

Ouch.

 

[gudnite]

I never ever use an envelope when I see a new sp. I count the money in front of the lady and ask her if wants to count it to then put it on a table. That way there's no chance of a mistake.

 

[frankcastle]

That's what happens when you're retired. Alone, and single.

Sounds like you guys might have two things in common. LEt's not take things personally. Sorry V but you totally are not acting like someone new to the board.

 

[great bear]

Very simple and foolproof.

What's even harder to understand is how the envelope maintains the GFE mood. Must be the sensitive metrosexuals.

I use coloured envelopes!!

 

[asterwald]

What about a transparent envelope?

 

[shack]

I use coloured envelopes!!

How about a scent?

No scent? No metrosexual.

 

[hornydavid]

Donation - put it in an envelope or count it in front of sp?

In an unsealed envelope in plain sight on the coffee table, no lady has ever counted it, nor would I expect them to count it.

Same except sometimes on desk or dresser. They never count mine either, but for some reason they pretty much all take it into the wash-room when they go freshen up. Maybe they just like to fondle it?

 

[hornydavid]

That's what happens when you're retired. Alone, and single.

I think mrs loki, is actually mrs loki. So she is neither alone nor single.

On the other hand, I would guess that she also gives 1 point for every $10,000 in the guys bank account.

 

[massman]

I agree thread has gone off topic.

Might be better here. https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?370240-Hobbyist-with-SO

But suffice it to say, i always find it amusing when people involved in the sex biz (client or provider, current or past) come in to an escort review board and pass sweeping moral judgements For example, by mrs loki`s logic, her married female friends should make sure ttheir husbands steer way clear of her, as she has an admitted extensive history of having sex with other women`s hubbies, and likely cant be trusted not to do the same again.

 

[kenpachi]

Use certified cheques. This way, it's good as cash, and there is no misunderstanding.

 

[mightymouse007]

Certified cheques are usually for really big payments, like buying a house, car, etc. Plus, you need to take the time to work out at your financial institution. Too much hazzle for a mp/sp session.

 

[massman]

My mistake.



Married men seeing an SP is not dishonest at all, there is zero emotional attachment in the encounter. But of course, here's another double standard. I have a question for some of the married men here.

Would it be okay for your wife to see a male SP? How would you feel? I don't know if I'd be okay with my gf doing that.

id bet that most guys with a wife/ gf would be only too happy to make sure that the woman's physical needs were satisfied so as to make paid sex for her unnecessary!

 

[frankcastle]

Dude, I joined a month ago. Then got banned after a week after crushing an older gentleman's dreams that an SP actually liked him. So I reminded him that he didn't get the whole GFE menu.

I'm just saying you act and sound like a long time terb troll. But I guess there's something to be said for talent.

Sorry for the mistake.

 

[mrsCALoki]

by mrs loki's logic, her married female friends should make sure ttheir husbands steer way clear of her, as she has an admitted extensive history of having sex with other women's hubbies, and likely cant be trusted not to do the same again.

There is a huge gap between a person breaking their vows, and lying to their spouses in order to have sex with another person, and a single woman letting a married man touch her. One is lying and cheating, the other is just a slut

Most older women were very nervous when their husbands paid attention to me at social events. It is just part of life for some of us. I just hope I never feel that way.

 

[frankcastle]

My mistake.



Married men seeing an SP is not dishonest at all, there is zero emotional attachment in the encounter. But of course, here's another double standard. I have a question for some of the married men here.

Would it be okay for your wife to see a male SP? How would you feel? I don't know if I'd be okay with my gf doing that.

Of course it's dishonest. That's why guys talk about ways to hide their spending, hide their communications, hide their scent, hide the time that they spendd hobbying by saying they went golfing or what not. There are so many lies involved with hobbying. And those are just the ones directed at the SO (nevermind themselves). Try telling your SO (hypothetical or real) that you saw a SP but that's it's okay because there was no emotional attachment.

Now all that being said if a guy wants to see SPs to me that's his business not mine to judge. We all know it's wrong to speed but we do it.

 

[mrsCALoki]

not sure how many of us are willing to accept that form of payment...not me !

I got a money order once, does that count?

 

[massman]

There is a huge gap between a person breaking their vows, and lying to their spouses in order to have sex with another person, and a single woman letting a married man touch her. One is lying and cheating, the other is just a slut

Most older women were very nervous when their husbands paid attention to me at social events. It is just part of life for some of us. I just hope I never feel that way.

My only point is there are many people out there (obviously not you) that would think that a woman who offers herself knowingly to married guys is just as bad as the guy who takes up the offer. I dont necessarily believe this, but often these "sluts" (aka "homewreckers") as you call them are thought of as badly as the cheaters themselves. My point is as ive made before, when you live in a glass house (or even used to) be cautious about throwing stones.