What's the best way to simply get them to stop re-visiting a section of my deck where they leave droppings?
Raccoon attack
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A raccoon is not a rodent.
You cannot compare hitting baby raccoons over the head with a shovel to the slaughter of animals for food. It is not the same (though perhaps in your eyes it is - who knows)
The raccoon was just doing what raccoons do and it wasn't harming the man. I do not believe that it was tearing apart his garden and even if it was, the fact of the matter is that we live in a city with raccoons and all you have to do is keep the raccoons away, you don't have to torture or abuse the animals. Common decency.
Normal people do not try to beat baby raccoons to death with a shovel.
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not particularly... I could certainly live without it - I was vegetarian for over 10 years of my life but I started eating meet for health not because I particularly enjoy it.
I think it's worth noting that there's a difference between killing an animal humanely for food and killing an animal by beating it with a shovel because you're just too lazy to trap the animal and release it. I find it barbaric and cowardly and I have absolutely no issue with the guy being charged.
I'm honestly sick to my stomach seeing that people here find no issue with what the guy did....
Well I can't top that Miss Croft.
To follow-up on something G.B. wrote, part of the problem (not that I'm agreeing with beating Racoon kits to death) is that until they about a year old or so Racoons look ever so cute, will do all sorts of "silly" things to get food etc... BUT THEN THEY GROW UP. An adult racoon is nothing to mess with and if cornered can kill a dog many times its size, rabies is often present and if Ontario has not been effected by the zoodemic which started in West Virginia and has now spread all the way to New Brunswick - hope that you continue to be so lucky. With as many racoons as are supposedly in Toronto it seems unlikely their numbers would be way down.
Like many such animals they can get into a "Mate relationship" and savagely attack people other than the one they consider to be their mate. My Great-Grandfather had a pet racoon as a boy which when it matured would do this (God alone knows why his family put up with this - THAT part of the story was never passed along) there was an abour that other members of the family had to stay clear of.
To follow-up on something G.B. wrote, part of the problem (not that I'm agreeing with beating Racoon kits to death) is that until they about a year old or so Racoons look ever so cute, will do all sorts of "silly" things to get food etc... BUT THEN THEY GROW UP. An adult racoon is nothing to mess with and if cornered can kill a dog many times its size, rabies is often present and if Ontario has not been effected by the zoodemic which started in West Virginia and has now spread all the way to New Brunswick - hope that you continue to be so lucky. With as many racoons as are supposedly in Toronto it seems unlikely their numbers would be way down.
Like many such animals they can get into a "Mate relationship" and savagely attack people other than the one they consider to be their mate. My Great-Grandfather had a pet racoon as a boy which when it matured would do this (God alone knows why his family put up with this - THAT part of the story was never passed along) there was an abour that other members of the family had to stay clear of.
Someone suggested a big dog, that worked for me. They never came around, never, after they had to tangle with him two or three times. I did not have a raccoon problem for years and they did not come back(or cleaned up after themselves if they did) for a few years after he passed.
My dog was 75 lbs.
My dog was 75 lbs.
down on the farm
we once had a family of raccoons living in the walls and driving us nuts at night, so we pulled up the floor boards, threw a piece of meat down there and pummelled the first one to come by with shovels and stuff......yes, we killed a baby, but the rest of them got the message and left the house for good.
we once had a family of raccoons living in the walls and driving us nuts at night, so we pulled up the floor boards, threw a piece of meat down there and pummelled the first one to come by with shovels and stuff......yes, we killed a baby, but the rest of them got the message and left the house for good.
This is what you wrote at 6:30 this morning.....
I know.. I know... the bleeding hearts will say... there are more humane ways to deal with it. Like what? Call Animal Control... they won't even come because it is mating season... and even if they do, they'll trap it and then release it within 1 km so that the poor coon will be able to find its way back to continue the damage it was doing.
I wish this man were able to kill the coons in a more humane way, but I can't blame him for what he did. Not everyone owns a rifle or pellet gun. Water won't do it. Loud noises won't do it. I wouldn't want to try anyway... these fucking things are vicious. I'd have done the same thing. The only problem this poor man had is that he had a hypocritical pinko bleeding heart neighbour who was selfish enough to tie up our 911 emergency lines over this and have 3 tax payer paid cop cars rush to the scene sirens a blazing. I wonder, had one of those cop cars got into an accident on the way to the scene and killed an innocent civilian, what would we be talking about today. This man does not deserve to be treated this way! Period.
Now you are writing........ wow
The posts in this thread defending his actions really disappoint me.
I am an animal lover - I realize racoons are not lovable family pets usually, (although I had a friend when I was a kid who had a pet raccoon). I can't imagine hurting a defenseless animal or believing that intentionally hurting any animal could ever be justifiable
So I guess killing an animal is justifiable if it means maintaining YOUR health? But it is not justifiable if it means protecting this man's property? Tell me, where is this line? What if the raccoon was mauling the man's pet, or child? Is it justifiable then? How about if the raccoon was destroying the man's home by tearing off siding to get to the attic? Is that justifiable?
I know.. I know... the bleeding hearts will say... there are more humane ways to deal with it. Like what? Call Animal Control... they won't even come because it is mating season... and even if they do, they'll trap it and then release it within 1 km so that the poor coon will be able to find its way back to continue the damage it was doing.
I wish this man were able to kill the coons in a more humane way, but I can't blame him for what he did. Not everyone owns a rifle or pellet gun. Water won't do it. Loud noises won't do it. I wouldn't want to try anyway... these fucking things are vicious. I'd have done the same thing. The only problem this poor man had is that he had a hypocritical pinko bleeding heart neighbour who was selfish enough to tie up our 911 emergency lines over this and have 3 tax payer paid cop cars rush to the scene sirens a blazing. I wonder, had one of those cop cars got into an accident on the way to the scene and killed an innocent civilian, what would we be talking about today. This man does not deserve to be treated this way! Period.
hmmm .... let me repeat this again nice and slow:
There's a helluva lotta difference between humanely killing an animal for food versus bashing an animal over the head till it's dead cuz you're worried about your cherry tomatoes and you're sick and tired of those crazy raccoons invading your backyard trashcan but you're too lazy to humanely deal with the issue.
It is cruel, unnecessary, lazy, and barbaric.
And don't even try to tell me humanity is at risk from Raccoon maulings. Pitbulls have mauled a helluva lotta people and they scare the shyte outta me but if I decided to go and bash one until it's dead just because I'm not comfortable with it, it would be animal cruelty.
There's a helluva lotta difference between humanely killing an animal for food versus bashing an animal over the head till it's dead cuz you're worried about your cherry tomatoes and you're sick and tired of those crazy raccoons invading your backyard trashcan but you're too lazy to humanely deal with the issue.
It is cruel, unnecessary, lazy, and barbaric.
And don't even try to tell me humanity is at risk from Raccoon maulings. Pitbulls have mauled a helluva lotta people and they scare the shyte outta me but if I decided to go and bash one until it's dead just because I'm not comfortable with it, it would be animal cruelty.
i agree, too many cityboys here, coons are a pain, although shooting coons with a .22 is not a good idea, u neighbor might not like it, i use pellets on rats mostly, haven't had a coon near the house yet...
Ah.. OK... so what I think you are saying is that you are ok with killing the animal... you just wish it could have been done in a more humane way. I think everyone on this thread who agrees that the animal should have been killed also feels that the animal should have been killed humanely. The question is, what if humane methods were not at hand? This was the only alternative the man had and now his life is ruined over it. That's just plain nuts!
lol well I guess it will be proven in court that the man in question was acting in self defense or perhaps in defense of his pet or child.... but I gotta admit that I have a reeeeeally hard time believing that a family of baby raccoons was so threatening that the man could not pursue a different course of action than taking a shovel to them then and there.
See sir: That there is what I consider to be just plain nuts....
Jennifer... you should consider a career in law. The self defence angle is the way to go!! I mean how could he lose that argument? It's his word against a raccoon's. Err... maybe I'll take that back.... In Toronto, I could see a jury or a judge siding with the raccoon. LOL.
