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themexi

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Best thing to do gentlemen iis take every precaution to avoid pregnancy & take them seriously

However if that fails, be sure you took every precaution to make it as difficult for her to find you as possible. If you can manage impossible all the better.

In the end, you paid for the experience of intimacy without all the BS & baggage that comes with it & I can't imagine a bigger load of BS or baggage than being stuck paying for an unplanned, unwanted bastard.

She doesn't want to abort? Her body, her choice, HER problem.
She wants to keep a kid under those circumstances? Her kid, her choice, HER problem.

If a circus performer falls & breaks his neck are you on the hook to pay for his chair & ramps? NO it's a risk of the job. The customer pays to be entertained & what happen behind the scenes ain't their problem. Period.
 

fun-guy

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If a circus performer falls & breaks his neck are you on the hook to pay for his chair & ramps? NO it's a risk of the job. The customer pays to be entertained & what happen behind the scenes ain't their problem. Period.
I'm following your post like in the other thread with the same answer since you posted the same thing, if you understand it, then perhaps you can explain it to me:

What if the performer falls on you as the spectator and both you and him/her break both your necks, are you on the hook to pay for your chair and ramp? Yep, that's the risk you take when you pay to be entertained. Period.

Your analogy of an escort becoming pregnant to a circus performer is mindboggling and beyond my comprehension........it's at an intellect level I'm not familiar with, thus my response, perhaps you can understand it.
 

themexi

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I'm following your post like in the other thread with the same answer since you posted the same thing, if you understand it, then perhaps you can explain it to me:

What if the performer falls on you as the spectator and both you and him/her break both your necks, are you on the hook to pay for your chair and ramp? Yep, that's the risk you take when you pay to be entertained. Period.

Your analogy of an escort becoming pregnant to a circus performer is mindboggling and beyond my comprehension........it's at an intellect level I'm not familiar with, thus my response, perhaps you can understand it.



If I get hit... yeah my chair & ramp are on me. I accept the risks & I have a duty to myself to take every precaution I can & stay alert.

If I'm quick enough to dodge & they hit the pavement where I was... I should count my luck & feel bad for theirs...

Reasoning being... If I plan so that I do my damndedst to avoid pregnancy AND also succesfully plan an escape for the event that she DOES (intentionally or no),

Good on me that I dodged a huge Legal bullet & financial burden I didnt sign up for.

AGAIN... She has the choice to abort or give it up.... My resources shouldnt enter into her decisionmaking period.
 

Aardvark154

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[If] you do not want a baby and she dont believe in abortion cuz of both of yours stupidy there is adoption... give the baby up to someone who actually wants a child..
Absolutely! There is a huge demand (and the vast majority of prospective adoptees would be great parents) for healthy babies.
 

mandrill

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Child support is retroactive?
No. Fuck! You guys!

It is only retroactive if the woman demonstrates that she tried to put you on notice that she wanted child support and you stalled, or threatened or hid from her. She has to show fault on your part.

Otherwise, t is only retroactive to the date she filed against you in Family court.
 

rld

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FatOne, the laws/courts strive to ensure that our modern society is a just one. This means to acknowledge the rights of a woman over her own body and the best interests of a born child. Therefore, if a woman chooses not to abort, then the burden of rearing the child must be shared between the parents. Otherwise, it's unfair for a woman to shoulder the responsibility alone.
you are close on this logic, but not quite there.

It should read "otherwise it is unfair for the child to do without the economic benefits that two parents can bring."

The approach to child support is child focussed, not designed to address wrongs against women.
 

rld

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I'm following your post like in the other thread with the same answer since you posted the same thing, if you understand it, then perhaps you can explain it to me:

What if the performer falls on you as the spectator and both you and him/her break both your necks, are you on the hook to pay for your chair and ramp? Yep, that's the risk you take when you pay to be entertained. Period.

Your analogy of an escort becoming pregnant to a circus performer is mindboggling and beyond my comprehension........it's at an intellect level I'm not familiar with, thus my response, perhaps you can understand it.
That is not the way our legal system works.

If the performer falls on the spectator, the performer will likely be liable.
 

themexi

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That is not the way our legal system works.

If the performer falls on the spectator, the performer will likely be liable.
I know that...I was explaining what I thought was fair...

Apparently the legl system thinks it's "Fair" that in the instance of pregnancy... a performer can make a poor decision (dont abort)... Compound it (Keep the thing) & be entitled to drag the man along for the financial ride...

Fuck that! The "Law" can only enfiorce this bullshit if youre stupid enough to get found...

Be respectful & take every reasonable precaution... INCLUDING foolproof escape.
 

rld

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I know that...I was explaining what I thought was fair...

Apparently the legl system thinks it's "Fair" that in the instance of pregnancy... a performer can make a poor decision (dont abort)... Compound it (Keep the thing) & be entitled to drag the man along for the financial ride...

Fuck that! The "Law" can only enfiorce this bullshit if youre stupid enough to get found...

Be respectful & take every reasonable precaution... INCLUDING foolproof escape.
The law views the creation of a life in a different way than breaking someone's neck. Fancy that.

You may think it is a poor decision not to abort, but, in an attempt to balance people's rights women are given the right to choose whether or not to abort. That does not reduce the duty of the father to have to care for the child. It is an imperfect way of dealing with the matter, but it is the best we have.

I think your complete misunderstanding of the issue arises from your inability to distinguish between tort law on one hand, and family and human rights law on the other.

The foolproof escape issue is just between you and your conscience (or lack thereof).
 

fun-guy

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That is not the way our legal system works.

If the performer falls on the spectator, the performer will likely be liable.
Are you sure? If a spectator gets hit in the head with a puck at a hocky game I'm pretty sure the hockey team is not liable, watch at your own peril. I don't think it's that cut and dry as you say it is. I'm no lawyer but I assure you there has been many injuries to spectators who attend events with no recourse to the venue.

I know the analogies might be off, but there are some similarities. I think I'll have a discussion with a lawyer friend of mine.
 

themexi

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The law views the creation of a life in a different way than breaking someone's neck. Fancy that.

You may think it is a poor decision not to abort, but, in an attempt to balance people's rights women are given the right to choose whether or not to abort. That does not reduce the duty of the father to have to care for the child. It is an imperfect way of dealing with the matter, but it is the best we have.
It's simply NOT good enough. Simple fairness & reason could provide better laws than this anti men biased bullshit.

I think your complete misunderstanding of the issue arises from your inability to distinguish between tort law on one hand, and family and human rights law on the other
No... I understand the FACTS. We have sex. She gets pregnant THAT'S where ANY choice in the matter ENDS for me.

If the law was set up where a lady got pregnant & she couldn't or wouldnt abort & I had a share in the responsibility for her pregnancy care & delivery costs FINE I could get behind that easily enough.

But when she CHOOSES to KEEP the kid.... Well as far as I'm concerned that is ENTIRELY HER CHOICE so it's ENTIRELY her responsibility.

I'm only willing to concede my fate to the choices of others so far. Pregnancy is far enough. PAYING for the kid is TOO FAR so I woill NEVER pay for one I dont want. I'm NOT sorry.


The foolproof escape issue is just between you and your conscience (or lack thereof).
If the Law refuses to look out for me in the event I get screwed over by the poor CHOICE of another... I have to do it myself. It's an Unjust law so I will do whatever is necessary to avoid it's unjust consequences imposed upon my life.
 

fuji

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It is only retroactive if the woman demonstrates that she tried to put you on notice that she wanted child support and you stalled, or threatened or hid from her. She has to show fault on your part.
You mean something like this:

themexi said:
However if that fails, be sure you took every precaution to make it as difficult for her to find you as possible. If you can manage impossible all the better.
Does that kind of behavior count as hiding?
 

fuji

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No... I understand the FACTS. We have sex. She gets pregnant THAT'S where ANY choice in the matter ENDS for me.
Yup. You had a choice. You made your choice. You got her pregnant. In this case that was NOT your last choice--your next choice was to hide from her like a coward to try and avoid responsibility for your earlier choice. This in a situation where you likely KNOW the risk is there--a condom broke, or whatever. It's not like she's going to get pregnant if the condom is working. It's a rare situation and you likely knew that it was a possibility the moment you pulled out and saw the broken condom.

But when she CHOOSES to KEEP the kid.... Well as far as I'm concerned that is ENTIRELY HER CHOICE so it's ENTIRELY her responsibility.
For some people it's not a choice. Some people don't believe in abortion, and so the choice to abort is not available to them. You attempting to ram your views down someone else's throat just shows how selfish you really are.

I think anyone who believed abortion is a valid choice would get one in that case. That leaves SP's who think abortion is inherently immoral, and so your statement here is invalid--they don't have that choice. That means the last person who had any choice in the matter was you.
 

Aardvark154

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We have sex. She gets pregnant THAT'S where ANY choice in the matter ENDS for me.


But when she CHOOSES to KEEP the kid.... Well as far as I'm concerned that is ENTIRELY HER CHOICE so it's ENTIRELY her responsibility.

I'm only willing to concede my fate to the choices of others so far. Pregnancy is far enough. PAYING for the kid is TOO FAR so I woill NEVER pay for one I dont want.
If you want to look at the world so cynically: Your first statement is where the law stands in Canada, the U.S. and the U.K.

Your second two statements are the way you would wish for the law to be, not as it is. And as for your final remark welcome to wage garnishment, suspension of drivers and professional licenses, perhaps even jail for contempt.
 

Queen

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Uhhhh...... WHAT?

I've had a condom break twice with an SP but neither time did I assume everything was peachy. You KNOW when a condom broke... it's not like you can't feel the difference. Both times for me the broken condom meant end of session, as it unnerved us both enough that there wasn't really the right mood to continue.
Condoms are not meant to break unless you haven't put them on correctly or your trying to make the condom break buy not purchasing the correct size or put a needle thru the package condom behind the SPs back.
 

fuji

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Of course they're not meant to break, nevertheless they do sometimes break, and when they do, I would claim the guy knows right away that something has happened--if he continues at that point I would claim it's because he is enjoying the BBFS. (Which is not what I did, I stopped.)

Note that when you're in a session with an SP it's almost 100% of the time that it's her condom, she's the one that fetches it, and she's the one that puts it on. Certainly the two times the condom broke with me I can say I never touched the thing with my hands ;-)
 

james t kirk

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Condoms are not meant to break unless you haven't put them on correctly or your trying to make the condom break buy not purchasing the correct size or put a needle thru the package condom behind the SPs back.
I've broken more than a few condoms over the years (sadly not as many as I did at the age of 20 though) and as far as I am aware everything was done correctly. It's quite possible to break a condom in my experience.
 

james t kirk

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Best thing to do gentlemen iis take every precaution to avoid pregnancy & take them seriously

However if that fails, be sure you took every precaution to make it as difficult for her to find you as possible. If you can manage impossible all the better.

In the end, you paid for the experience of intimacy without all the BS & baggage that comes with it & I can't imagine a bigger load of BS or baggage than being stuck paying for an unplanned, unwanted bastard.

She doesn't want to abort? Her body, her choice, HER problem.
She wants to keep a kid under those circumstances? Her kid, her choice, HER problem.

If a circus performer falls & breaks his neck are you on the hook to pay for his chair & ramps? NO it's a risk of the job. The customer pays to be entertained & what happen behind the scenes ain't their problem. Period.
I get to use my new favourite line (courtesty of rid on page 4)

"Keep riding that Brontosaurus cowboy.....and ride it hard"

You make me laugh.

The law doesn't give a shit how the child was created, or should I say the circumstances. It's your DNA that mixed in there - you are on the legal hook whether you like it or not.

"HER Responsibility" Ba ha ha. Good one.
 

my name Peggy

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@themexi, you are an absolute toolbox. Seriously, you sound too young to even be having sex.

.. Get the chip off your shoulder. The fact nobody gives a shit about 'your concerns' doesn't make the legal system anti-men, it makes it PRO CHILD.-you know, that "thing" you helped make?

The legal system is VERY aware that if men could decide whether they wanted to be responsible, there would MILLIONS of kids on this Earth w/o proper support and dads to take care of them. Since no man or institution can 'govern' a womans body (this isn't the freakin middle east), they have to put this law into place to prioritize the needs of the child, not ur petty feelings...Don't agree? Move to Iraq.

Rather than bitch about it not being fair to you, think about is that fair to the kid? Oh right, ur solution was just to abort the 'thing'. FYI Abortion isn't a form of birth control, it's used in emergency situations; you not wanting to keep it doesn't count as one.

You both fucked in the bed, now you both have to lie in it, still don't agree? Tough shit, you're legally tied to it, and you WILL BE FOUND .... 'hide from the police'-ba ha haha good one.
 
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