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Nickelodeon

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I'm not cheating. I'm just jerking off. Can't I help it if there's a nice girl at the end of my dick to enjoy the fruits of my labour. (Note: cut to all recent threads on CIM, CIMSW, Facials to see all those who feel the same way).
 

King Midas

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Yes. We are cheaters. Get over it, it's normal.

My definition of cheating is this: If your SO would disapprove of it if she knew about it, it's cheating.

It is NOT your wife's fault that you cheat. If your relationship with her broke down and you aren't having as much sex as you like that's not only her fault. It's yours too, maybe for reasons you're unaware of. Anyway, I don't believe there is "right and wrong" in a relationship: There's a complex interaction between two people, where cause and effect becomes blurred and murky in one of the deepest, most intimate, and most difficult to fathom of human experiences.

That said, cheating is a natural human condition. It's in our genes, part of who we are, and you repudiate something fundamental about your own being if you suppress your urge to cheat.

Everyone here loves me for saying this, so I am going to say it again:

Have enough class to cheat discretely, so as to protect the feelings of your loved ones. If you get caught you're an asshole, and the probable reason why you got caught is you did something crass like bring your date to the home you share with your wife, or you came home smelling like perfume, or you used the computer you share with your wife to view escort ads or email your girlfriends. Show her some fucking respect, keep your cheating discrete.
I would add to that, don't be stupid enough to review your dates. I have never understood what part of one's ego would compel them to provide the specific details of their sexual experiences with a hooker. It doesn't take much to connect the dots, trust me. Even on those sites that require membership. Women can be just as wily as men....
 

Dewalt

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For women, emotional infidelity is cheating. For a man to just have a quick fuck with someone they don't know, it is a physcial need. If more women understood this - that men HAVE to be able to cum how we like on a regular basis and that we can easily detach our emotions, then they wouldn't be so demanding.
 
Just to put another spin on this...

I honestly believe that had I discovered SPs when I was married, I would have stayed married.

Between the stresses of kids, work and all that usual stuff, my marriage had become "sexless" which led to conflict. Had I been "getting some" outside, the marriage would still have been sexless, but it wouldn't have mattered.

That's the value of the "SP experience"... satisfying the urges without (normally) the emotional attachment. It's different than having an affair which has all sorts of "baggage" attached to it...

Seeing an SP isn't "cheating"... it's just getting laid.
 

freestuff

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I would add to that, don't be stupid enough to review your dates. I have never understood what part of one's ego would compel them to provide the specific details of their sexual experiences with a hooker. It doesn't take much to connect the dots, trust me. Even on those sites that require membership. Women can be just as wily as men....
Because some guys get compensated for their "reviews." And some just love to brag about their "conquests."

I honestly believe that had I discovered SPs when I was married, I would have stayed married.

Between the stresses of kids, work and all that usual stuff, my marriage had become "sexless" which led to conflict. Had I been "getting some" outside, the marriage would still have been sexless, but it wouldn't have mattered.

That's the value of the "SP experience"... satisfying the urges without (normally) the emotional attachment. It's different than having an affair which has all sorts of "baggage" attached to it...

Seeing an SP isn't "cheating"... it's just getting laid.
So it would be ok for your SO to see some guys on the side?
 

kissykisskiss

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Are terb members (who have wife/common law partener or gf) cheaters? Can we justify this ethically?
I guess singles who are in this hobby okaay and can justify why they are looking outside relationship :-(
YES,you are cheating,cheaters.I'm available from 12 till 9 tonight.LMAO,kidding!I'm not available.
 

OddSox

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I'm single, free and not constrained by any type of female vigilance. I will keep it that way until I rest eternally.
Well said. In an ideal world, it would be an oath that every young male (and some females) should take when they reach puberty!
 

Art Mann

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'Cheating' is a loaded word

I honestly believe that had I discovered SPs when I was married, I would have stayed married. . . That's the value of the "SP experience"... satisfying the urges without (normally) the emotional attachment. It's different than having an affair which has all sorts of "baggage" attached to it...

Seeing an SP isn't "cheating"... it's just getting laid.
Nature sometimes can be exceptionally cruel to women, especially to those who have always enjoyed sex.

If there comes a point when a woman can no longer engage in sex because of the physical pain it causes, then her marriage can become "sexless."

Is unexpected abstinence valid reason for a man to abandon marriage just to experience the joy of sex again?

To some men, perhaps; to others, not.

Is it valid rationale for cheating? Maybe, maybe not.

Perhaps that depends on whether cheating involves hitting on women in one's circle of "civilian" friends until finding a willing partner and falling in love, with all the baggage that brings, versus falling into the arms of a beautiful SP for a few hours of loving, with all the baggage left behind once the hotel door swings shut.

To some people the world is black and white. They define it in moralistic terms. Good. Bad. Honesty. Cheating.

Others see the world with a vast hue of colors, including many shades of grey.

Speculating on whether visiting SPs is cheating is a meaningless exercise ... a moral quandary only to those with a specific set of religious or societal hangups.

Morals and ethics may have nothing to do with maintaining a healthy, loving marital relationship despite also having occasional, guilt-free, business relationships with SPs.

Discretion to protect the feelings of a loved one . . .

Now, that's a much more important issue to worry about.
 

Tangwhich

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Slightly off topic, but I've often wondered has anyone (or someone you know) gone to their wife to ask for permission to look elsewhere for sex? Something along the lines of, honey I love you but you're not meeting my sexual needs. Can I have your blessing to find alternate sources of release?
 

kissykisskiss

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Well said Artmann...........but...............put it any way you want.Cheating is an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition.All or even one of these "acts" done towards your SO is cheating.We all know what cheating is and means.1+1=2 the answer will never change.So,anyway,I'm available from............LMAO!
 

kissykisskiss

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Slightly off topic, but I've often wondered has anyone (or someone you know) gone to their wife to ask for permission to look elsewhere for sex? Something along the lines of, honey I love you but you're not meeting my sexual needs. Can I have your blessing to find alternate sources of release?
I'm sure their are circumstances where that happens...ie,wife is on her death bed(no pun intended).If it is said outright and honestly,agreed on then it ISN'T cheating.
 

avxl1003

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I don't think of it as cheating. I do it because it's an escape for me. It's a "hobby".

Granted, it also happens to be something my wife probably wouldn't approve of. But... Big deal.. There's lots of things she doesn't approve of.

I love my wife, and am happy with our sex life. I know nobody's gonna believe me, but it's true. I find sex with my wife to be extremely intimate, and erotic. If I had to choose between sex with my wife or my "hobby", I'd choose my wife every day of the week and twice on Sunday (as I often have).

Paying a 20 something year old woman with an outrageously enhanced bust line to bounce on my c*ck for an hour and then take one on the tongue, has nothing to do with how I feel about my wife. It has to do with how I like to relax from time to time. And as long as the woman on the other end of my c*ck is 100% willing, then I don't see the problem with it.
 

kissykisskiss

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I don't think of it as cheating. I do it because it's an escape for me. It's a "hobby".

Granted, it also happens to be something my wife probably wouldn't approve of. But... Big deal.. There's lots of things she doesn't approve of.

I love my wife, and am happy with our sex life. I know nobody's gonna believe me, but it's true. I find sex with my wife to be extremely intimate, and erotic. If I had to choose between sex with my wife or my "hobby", I'd choose my wife every day of the week and twice on Sunday (as I often have).

Paying a 20 something year old woman with an outrageously enhanced bust line to bounce on my c*ck for an hour and then take one on the tongue, has nothing to do with how I feel about my wife. It has to do with how I like to relax from time to time. And as long as the woman on the other end of my c*ck is 100% willing, then I don't see the problem with it.
It's cheating.
 
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Our current concept of "morality" is relatively recent. Back in 1500's (around the time of The Tudors), it was quite common to keep a wife, and a mistress, or even concubines. Marriage was for status, and property, and to provide a line of succession for family wealth. Wives accepted this, and some probably even welcomed that their husband was getting his "physical needs" taken care of by someone else. As long as they weren't displaced, things were fine. Some women even took lovers of their own (but often at great personal risk - hello Catherine Howard), but as long as they were careful not to produce a child, things stayed the same. Of course, if they did, and the child looked nothing like the father...well...off with her head!!!
 
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