Police arresting innocent bystanders for no reason

james t kirk

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I also agree with this statement....

The police mishandled the whole situation...

By the way...This might have been asked already....

But why the fuck did the cops abandon their police cars in the middle of a mob?
For fuck sakes the cops will tow an illegally parked car within minutes!!! They couldn't have towed their cars out of there? I saw on the news that showed the cops had the Police Cars at Spadina & Queen surrounded and secured and then they took off and abandoned the cars?
They should have known the cop cars were gonna be vandalized and torched if left alone with an unruly mob!!!

Those cop cars that the FOOLS burned were sacrificial lambs thrown out to the crazies to give them something to burn other than buildings and property.

Those cop cars were scheduled to head off to the scrap yard this week anyway. They were towed to the intersection with empty gas tanks, old shitty everything, gutted of their weapons, computers, etc.

Give the MORONS a target worth about $100.000 as opposed to a building (with people in it) worth millions.

[ba ha ha, the cops fooled you......but don't worrry, they fooled Beth Kaplan at the Toronto Star even - she was asking why these cars were towed with empty gas tanks and put in the intersections.....fucking smart on the part of the cops, you have to admit]

Here, read and learn:

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...829533--everyone-knew-hooligans-came-to-fight
 

dirkd101

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I guess arresting an 15 yr old boy for 33 hours is consider poor policing ....Thnak you harpo and your 1B cluster fuck
If he was down there to be with the mischief makers he was put in the right place. Did his parents know what he was up to?

Some were detained for 18 hours without proper accomodations, food or water. -- Notice how no news media were allowed to see and film the holding area
We only hear the side of the detainees here, the lock up was suitable for the desired use. Food and water cannot be denied, refused so they could say they were being abused is more accurate. There was no need for the news media to see this detention center at all.
 

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Beth Kaplan at the Toronto Star even - she was asking why these cars were towed with empty gas tanks and put in the intersections.....fucking smart on the part of the cops, you have to admit]
I thought of this when the cars were burning on Saturday because I was waiting for the gas tank to explode into flames but didn't. I said to my buddies that it was odd that we didn't see it explode when the flames were getting close to the tank, now this would make sense. If true, I agree with you, smart move by the cops.
 

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Let's give the cops credit here. The car was torched, but I doubt it was used as a sacrifice to mob. The mob wants to burn what they think is the ultimate in authority, it is symbolic to them. As for not having much gas in the tank, that's planning and using your head. The what if happened, good planning pays off.
 

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When is China going to host the G20?
I can't wait to see that one, hope they hold it right in the middle of Tiananmen Square. I'd like to see how the Black Bloc anarchists would act when confronted with tanks.
 

Rockslinger

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It was at Queen and Spadina....
I am very familiar with Queen and Spadina. Feel free to read my previous posts.
People can't walk and enjoy Toronto's streets...
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Blame the protestors. We have rules in a civilized society and one of the rules is that a bunch of people are not allowed to block an intersection. Even those two Goth girls weren't dumb enough to walk into that mob. Anybody dumb enough to walk into that mess and was innocent was released when it was safe.
 

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"Why the cops didn't do this or that?" Reading this thread makes me really wish the cops just used bullets. I can't wait for the G8/G20 summit to be in China.
 

james t kirk

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I thought of this when the cars were burning on Saturday because I was waiting for the gas tank to explode into flames but didn't. I said to my buddies that it was odd that we didn't see it explode when the flames were getting close to the tank, now this would make sense. If true, I agree with you, smart move by the cops.
Not only was the gas tank empty, but it was purged of all gasoline vapours.

If the tank is empty of gasoline, but full of vapours (as it would have been if it was simply low on gasoline) - KA Fucking BOOM. An empty tank is actually far more dangerous than a full tank because it's essentially a bomb waiting to explode. They would have had to dry the tank out or most likely purge it with CO2 or nitrogen.

Or, simply remove the tank, hook up a temporary tank (like they do in the movies - which is about the size of large bottle of coke and drive it there, then disconnect the temporary tank and leave the scrap car).

Those cars were sacrificial lambs and the MORONS went for it like the Pea-Brains that they are.

Hence the reason the cops never tried to move the car, or even to protect it, or the people around it, nor did the firefighters intervene... Let the crazies have their fun beating the shit out of a scrap car.

Bunch of Primates. (Actually, not even as smart as a primate. I'm insulting all the chimps and monkies out there - Dumb as a box of stones.)
 

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"Why the cops didn't do this or that?" Reading this thread makes me really wish the cops just used bullets. I can't wait for the G8/G20 summit to be in China.
I have to agree...The protestors are lucky this is Canada!
And i also give the cops props cause they did a wonderful job handling these fucking hooligans.
The protestors and those nosey onlookers deserved what they got, you were told to STAY AWAY from that area.
You were warned before hand so stop complaining and suck it up!
 

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It sucks, but that’s the way it goes. It was a riot and in a riot the rules go out the window. Don’t blame the cops, blame the criminals.

As to living in the area, go away from the riot, not towards it. If you live on one of the streets running perpendicular to Queen, walk north away from the riot, not into the thick of it and you would be fine. You KNOW there is trouble ahead, find a way around it. (There are plenty.) People are used to being able to do what they want, when they want, and I understand that, however, these are extra-ordinary circumstances and you need to acknowledge that and work with the cops.

Besides, being held for a couple of hours is not the end of the world in this situation.
The queen and spadina incident was not a riot, thats why so many people have a problem with it. You cannot unilaterally suspend the charter.
 

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Here is some worthwhile reading for all you Charter of Rights bleeders.....

Unlawful Assemblies and Riots

Unlawful assembly

63. (1) An unlawful assembly is an assembly of three or more persons who, with intent to carry out any common purpose, assemble in such a manner or so conduct themselves when they are assembled as to cause persons in the neighbourhood of the assembly to fear, on reasonable grounds, that they
(a) will disturb the peace tumultuously; or
(b) will by that assembly needlessly and without reasonable cause provoke other persons to disturb the peace tumultuously.

Lawful assembly becoming unlawful

(2) Persons who are lawfully assembled may become an unlawful assembly if they conduct themselves with a common purpose in a manner that would have made the assembly unlawful if they had assembled in that manner for that purpose.
Exception

(3) Persons are not unlawfully assembled by reason only that they are assembled to protect the dwelling-house of any one of them against persons who are threatening to break and enter it for the purpose of committing an indictable offence therein.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 64.

Riot

64. A riot is an unlawful assembly that has begun to disturb the peace tumultuously.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 65.

Punishment of rioter

65. Every one who takes part in a riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 66.

Punishment for unlawful assembly

66. Every one who is a member of an unlawful assembly is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 67.

Reading proclamation

67. A person who is
(a) a justice, mayor or sheriff, or the lawful deputy of a mayor or sheriff,
(b) a warden or deputy warden of a prison, or
(c) the institutional head of a penitentiary, as those expressions are defined in subsection 2(1) of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, or that person’s deputy,
who receives notice that, at any place within the jurisdiction of the person, twelve or more persons are unlawfully and riotously assembled together shall go to that place and, after approaching as near as is safe, if the person is satisfied that a riot is in progress, shall command silence and thereupon make or cause to be made in a loud voice a proclamation in the following words or to the like effect:
Her Majesty the Queen charges and commands all persons being assembled immediately to disperse and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business on the pain of being guilty of an offence for which, on conviction, they may be sentenced to imprisonment for life. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 67; 1994, c. 44, s. 5.

Offences related to proclamation

68. Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life who
(a) opposes, hinders or assaults, wilfully and with force, a person who begins to make or is about to begin to make or is making the proclamation referred to in section 67 so that it is not made;
(b) does not peaceably disperse and depart from a place where the proclamation referred to in section 67 is made within thirty minutes after it is made; or
(c) does not depart from a place within thirty minutes when he has reasonable grounds to believe that the proclamation referred to in section 67 would have been made in that place if some person had not opposed, hindered or assaulted, wilfully and with force, a person who would have made it.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 69.

Neglect by peace officer

69. A peace officer who receives notice that there is a riot within his jurisdiction and, without reasonable excuse, fails to take all reasonable steps to suppress the riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 70.
 

Rockslinger

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The queen and spadina incident was not a riot, thats why so many people have a problem with it. You cannot unilaterally suspend the charter.
It is illegal to block an intersection. Those people were asked 3 times to move. If you feel so strongly about your Charter rights to block an intersection, go to Queen/Spadina and block the intersection now.
 

Doug1ca

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It is illegal to block an intersection. Those people were asked 3 times to move. If you feel so strongly about your Charter rights to block an intersection, go to Queen/Spadina and block the intersection now.


Thanks Dave & Rockslinger! Too many voices screaming police brutality and wrongful arrest from the media and a myriad of protesters. I saw the weapons seized by the police from some - is that what free speech and the right to protest is about - showing up with weapons?

I think Blair did a great job and the video evidence will show the truth of what happened.

What we saw WAS democracy at work!
 

johnny

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Thanks Dave & Rockslinger! Too many voices screaming police brutality and wrongful arrest from the media and a myriad of protesters. I saw the weapons seized by the police from some - is that what free speech and the right to protest is about - showing up with weapons?

I think Blair did a great job and the video evidence will show the truth of what happened.

What we saw WAS democracy at work!
bah bah...do i hear sheep?
beleive what you want to believe.
Some people will support the police no matter what happens, i choose to hold police accountable.
 

johnny

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Speaking of sheep, guess who march when they are told to march and guess who chant when they are told to chant and guess who lie down at Queen/Spadina when they are told to lie down?
Are you talking about the woman walking home from work or the 2 guys walking home from watching world cup and were arbitrarily detained and arrested for 5 hours?
 
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