I dont need to try and brain wash you, it seems you already have been.Innocent bystanders? Bull shit! Don't even try to brainwash us. It only works on kids.
Open your eyes! See the reality! No innocent people, and I mean NO INNOCENT PEOPLE is dumb is enough to go to downtown on the Sunday after the despicable violence happened the very day before. The ones who are there trying to get the police to free the thugs are the thugs themselves! They are just in their plain clothing pretending to be those peaceful protesters. Unfortunately, they forgot one thing, the peaceful protesters stand for something that help their community. They have signs about abortion, gay rights, oil, etc. The thugs got nothing! (when they got arrest, they just go, "Oh, I was just watching" <---said by a 29-year old fully grown up man)I dont need to try and brain wash you, it seems you already have been.
I fully agree with your last sentence but I will also add, i will not forget how stupid the government was for having the summit here, knowing the violence, inconvinience and destruction it would cause.Open your eyes! See the reality! No innocent people, and I mean NO INNOCENT PEOPLE is dumb is enough to go to downtown on a Sunday after the despicable violence happened the very day before. The ones who are there trying to get the police to free the thugs are the thugs themselves! They are just in their plain clothing pretending to be one of those peaceful protesters. Unfortunately, they forgot one thing, the peaceful protesters stand for something that help their community. They have signs about abortion, gay rights, oil, etc. The thugs got nothing! (when they got arrest, they just go, "Oh, I was just watching" <---said by a 29-year old fully grown up man)
Torontonians are not stupid. We see through those bull shit these black bloc thugs are pulling. I hope the cops hold those thugs accountable for what they caused.
Torontonians WILL NEVER FORGET the violence, pain, and sufferring these black bloc thugs brought to our city.
True, the Federal government made an unwise decision and they too have to be accountable for losses we suffered.I fully agree with your last sentence but I will also add, i will not forget how stupid the government was for having the summit here, knowing the violence, inconvinience and destruction it would cause.
I am just glad this is over with, hopefully our city can get back to normal as soon as possible.
Nope, i wasnt at the protest, i dont get involved in them,not a hoodlum, i just enjoy my democtratic rights and i liek to stand up for them.I will repeat..
The HAD A RIGHT TO ARREST BOTH DAYS for THREE reasons
1)Mischief -(Against the Criminal COde) - "Impeding others from enjoyment of public property"
2)UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY
3)About to commit the Offence of "Breach of the Peace'
All legitimate and fair charges against these people!!!
Johnny I suspect you THINK like the rest of the hoodlums...ie: your a small man of small character, with littl emeans, and you have decided to take it out on THE MAN!!
Being too passive on Saturday allowed the police to lump everybody together on Sunday. Sad but true.Being too passive on Saturday and then lumping everybody together on Sunday was not a good strategy.
Only if one is saved for you, tough guy. <wink>...China will not spend a billion dollars either, maybe several hundred thousand on bullets to rid the world of a useless blight the human genome.
But they didn't rent Downsview nor did they make ultimatums, so the police and the G20 leadership was a complete and utter failure. Similar to your posted ideas. Speculate all you like, but that is like me saying "if the government didn't choose downtown Toronto" or "if police did their job on Saturday..." so it's meaningless. Like your post here.I have 0 sympathy for anyone arrested over the last week.
Zero.
You should not have been there. There was no need to part of a riot and a riot was what it was.
The Feds should have rented Downsview and said to EVERYONE, "you want to protest, fine, here is your free speech zone, we'll build you a stage, supply some Johnny on the Spots, and here's some free water" "Protest all you want"
"But come downtown and you're guilty of inciting a riot and we'll bust your ass."
How much you wanna bet that NOT ONE of those arrested woudl have taken the Downsview route. They wanted to be where the fun was and they got busted. Suck it up. You knew that that was a risk. No-one took the rubber hoses to you.
Yeah but are you implying that this is something the cops desired?Being too passive on Saturday allowed the police to lump everybody together on Sunday. Sad but true.
I would also add that the city doesn't belong to the protestors either.The city still belongs to its citizens, not the cops or the federal government.
Nice discussion, glad it has not degenrated into name calling. The thing with Charter rights is there are many cases were there are competing rights.I would also add that the city doesn't belong to the protestors either.
BTW: I think that the cops and/or government can tell you where to go if your safety is at risk.
I think we all learned a lesson. Let's respect EVERYBODY'S rights. Peace.I am now satisfied that the police have learned a lesson in all of this adn i think our basic Charter rights have been leefft strong and intact. which make me happy enough to go get a decent nights sleep.
I have 0 sympathy for anyone arrested over the last week.
Zero.
You should not have been there. There was no need to part of a riot and a riot was what it was.
The Feds should have rented Downsview and said to EVERYONE, "you want to protest, fine, here is your free speech zone, we'll build you a stage, supply some Johnny on the Spots, and here's some free water" "Protest all you want"
"But come downtown and you're guilty of inciting a riot and we'll bust your ass."
How much you wanna bet that NOT ONE of those arrested woudl have taken the Downsview route. They wanted to be where the fun was and they got busted. Suck it up. You knew that that was a risk. No-one took the rubber hoses to you.
Do you even live in Toronto?Open your eyes! See the reality! No innocent people, and I mean NO INNOCENT PEOPLE is dumb is enough to go to downtown on the Sunday after the despicable violence happened the very day before. The ones who are there trying to get the police to free the thugs are the thugs themselves! They are just in their plain clothing pretending to be those peaceful protesters. Unfortunately, they forgot one thing, the peaceful protesters stand for something that help their community. They have signs about abortion, gay rights, oil, etc. The thugs got nothing! (when they got arrest, they just go, "Oh, I was just watching" <---said by a 29-year old fully grown up man)
Torontonians are not stupid. We see through those bull shit these black bloc thugs are pulling. I hope the cops hold those thugs accountable for what they caused.
Torontonians WILL NEVER FORGET the violence, pain, and sufferring these black bloc thugs brought to our city.
I also agree with this statement....Being too passive on Saturday allowed the police to lump everybody together on Sunday. Sad but true.
It was at Queen and Spadina....Reasonably far from the G20 security zone...
People can't walk and enjoy Toronto's streets...
I was at Bathurst and Queen (only 5 minutes walk from Spadina) the day before enjoying dinner with my brother in law and sister (that area was peaceful with a lot of regular people walking around enjoying the night - you could see the smoke from the burning police cars)...
A lot of people live in that area...Should they be forced to stay in their homes for the whole 3 days?
One news channel interviewed people who got caught in the Police Barricade:
One guy was walking his dog and got caught in it....
Two guys were coming from watching a World Cup game from a Pub and got caught in it...
There were a few others who were interviewed who just walking and some watched and got caught in the Police action....